A bit of a philosophical type of question....(2 cents welcome)

[feversk]

Easy one.

Atheists value life more. Religious people are *sure* there is a better life after this (miserable) one, so they just can't appreciate it as much as the atheists, who find it precious and unique.

 

[GreyWolf257]

I personally believe they both value life equally (unless the religious people are in a cult), and the question should probably not be focused towards these two groups, because they are too broad to answer accurately.

P.S: Just as a note, you might want to appear nonpartisan towards most issues when they have nothing to do with a topic, it runs the risk of alienating your viewers.

well as i said, it popped in, and i thought about it for a good....20 minutes. so i wasnt exactly focused on the groups, but more on the reasoning for each one

Well, in that context, I might have to say the religious people, due to thier divine inspirations. If they are trully religious, then they would strive to have as good a time on Earth as they can so that they will be deemed worthy of admittion to Heaven by God, but I still think athiests value life because they share the same survival instincts as the former group.

 

[Valate_v1legacy]

Thats a totally different theory than mine; which is more of a genetic memory thing, its EXACTLY THE SAME BODY with EXACTLY THE SAME BRAIN BUILDUP, the cosentiences would merge instanteneously... I think.

Well yeah i suppose, but then again its not you is it? Its a clone of you with your memories. Your consciousness would die and your clone would live... Only a quasi immortality if you ask me...

Youre forgetting that all you are, all you know, is your memories.

But in addition to your memories, you also have a consciousness, a chain of thoughts existing in a synaptic sea of memories. I tend to believe we have something on a higher level than simply memories being put through pattern recognition software. That synaptic activity wouldn't transfer with the memories...

At least thats what i believe...

Its silly, because the odds of that are the same as the odds of every single human on the planet thinking with naked singularities; it would explain alot but make things REALLY confusing.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Thats a totally different theory than mine; which is more of a genetic memory thing, its EXACTLY THE SAME BODY with EXACTLY THE SAME BRAIN BUILDUP, the cosentiences would merge instanteneously... I think.

Well yeah i suppose, but then again its not you is it? Its a clone of you with your memories. Your consciousness would die and your clone would live... Only a quasi immortality if you ask me...

Youre forgetting that all you are, all you know, is your memories.

Nonsense. If I get amnesia and live a completely new life, I'm still ME. I'm just me as defined by a new set of characteristics. No matter where I go, what I think, forget, remember or say, I am always me. I'm constantly being defined by my present state at that exact moment, constantly reinventing myself.

"Identity" is overrated. I say, be who you are until you're not.

 

[grimsprice]

Religious care more....Christians and Buddhists in particular, the other Religious groups ......bit sketchy.

I don't understand why a Christian would care about life. Isn't it just a test to see whether you should burn and scream forever or live in peace and love with Jesus? Of what value is the physical world?

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[GHMonkey]

you want my two cents. run far away from this topic. otherwise they will only find thet burned reamins of your avatar.

personally, i would say religious.

 

[LeonLethality]

An athiest. Don't let the Fundamentalists lie to you. We value life far more than anyone who believe in eternal life. FAR MORE.

its true we know it will end and not get better and perfect we live with what we have and we damn well have fun (like me I'm on vacation atm woop) lifes to short have fun live it up no proof of the afterlife so dont rely on it

 

[grimsprice]

Thats a totally different theory than mine; which is more of a genetic memory thing, its EXACTLY THE SAME BODY with EXACTLY THE SAME BRAIN BUILDUP, the cosentiences would merge instanteneously... I think.

Well yeah i suppose, but then again its not you is it? Its a clone of you with your memories. Your consciousness would die and your clone would live... Only a quasi immortality if you ask me...

Youre forgetting that all you are, all you know, is your memories.

But in addition to your memories, you also have a consciousness, a chain of thoughts existing in a synaptic sea of memories. I tend to believe we have something on a higher level than simply memories being put through pattern recognition software. That synaptic activity wouldn't transfer with the memories...

At least thats what i believe...

Its silly, because the odds of that are the same as the odds of every single human on the planet thinking with naked singularities; it would explain alot but make things REALLY confusing.

You do know of course that some things in science are, in fact, "REALLY confusing". And science has yet to explain the origin of consciousness.

 

[Skeleon]

Well, let me just say as an atheist that I think human life is more important than anything else in existence.

Now, I might be wrong, but many fundamentalists seem to see life as only a passageway we have to go through to reach the real deal (i.e. happy-go-lucky afterlife). So I'd assume they don't value life itself as much.

As for abortion, well. If they're willing to force a raped girl to keep the baby, they obviously only care about unborn life.

 

[Valate_v1legacy]

Thats a totally different theory than mine; which is more of a genetic memory thing, its EXACTLY THE SAME BODY with EXACTLY THE SAME BRAIN BUILDUP, the cosentiences would merge instanteneously... I think.

Well yeah i suppose, but then again its not you is it? Its a clone of you with your memories. Your consciousness would die and your clone would live... Only a quasi immortality if you ask me...

Youre forgetting that all you are, all you know, is your memories.

Nonsense. If I get amnesia and live a completely new life, I'm still ME. I'm just me as defined by a new set of characteristics. No matter where I go, what I think, forget, remember or say, I am always me. I'm constantly being defined by my present state at that exact moment, constantly reinventing myself.

"Identity" is overrated. I say, be who you are until you're not.

Well... That sounds kind of confusing- I must say perception, the way you answer things, line of thought- are all defined by memories and morals that become memories. Stored in your brain...

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Easy one.

Atheists value life more. Religious people are *sure* there is a better life after this (miserable) one, so they just can't appreciate it as much as the atheists, who find it precious and unique.

Spoiler

Yes, blanket statements certainly are easy. Let's forget about the contributions of Mother Theresa and other religious people who spent most or all of their lives trying to make the physical, transitory lives of the sick and the poor just a little bit better. Obviously these were folks who couldn't appreciate the precious and unique nature of life.

Also... Abortion centers? Just throwing that out there. Since, you know, we're talking about life in general and not "intelligent" life.

 

[Valate_v1legacy]

Thats a totally different theory than mine; which is more of a genetic memory thing, its EXACTLY THE SAME BODY with EXACTLY THE SAME BRAIN BUILDUP, the cosentiences would merge instanteneously... I think.

Well yeah i suppose, but then again its not you is it? Its a clone of you with your memories. Your consciousness would die and your clone would live... Only a quasi immortality if you ask me...

Youre forgetting that all you are, all you know, is your memories.

But in addition to your memories, you also have a consciousness, a chain of thoughts existing in a synaptic sea of memories. I tend to believe we have something on a higher level than simply memories being put through pattern recognition software. That synaptic activity wouldn't transfer with the memories...

At least thats what i believe...

Its silly, because the odds of that are the same as the odds of every single human on the planet thinking with naked singularities; it would explain alot but make things REALLY confusing.

You do know of course that some things in science are, in fact, "REALLY confusing". And science has yet to explain the origin of consciousness.

I do know that, I refrain from bringing up 'naked singularities' simply because ABSOLUTE chaos is incredibly hard to percieve.

 

[Frozen_Soul]

As for abortion, well. If they're willing to force a raped girl to keep the baby, they obviously only care about unborn life.

Honestly I'm all for abortion and anyone who has read freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner will know why.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I think an atheist definitely does value life more. Religious people may or may not believe in a life afterwords, and they will live this life for the next one, placing next to no value on their life. See Muslim jihadists.

Way to take one extreme group and stereotype all religious people based on that.

Well, let me just say as an atheist that I think human life is more important than anything else in existence.

Now, I might be wrong, but many fundamentalists seem to see life as only a passageway we have to go through to reach the real deal (i.e. happy-go-lucky afterlife). So I'd assume they don't value life itself as much.

As for abortion, well. If they're willing to force a raped girl to keep the baby, they obviously only care about unborn life.

Aaaand way to take the 1-in-a-million situation and assume that's what all abortions are. Every ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE an abortion case is a rape/incest case, or the mother's life is in danger. And fine. In those cases, let them do what they want. The OTHER 99% OF THE TIME, people are behaving selfishly and irresponsibly, choosing to waste a life when they could instead put the child up for adoption.

Why should the majority suffer for the sake of the minority? Is this how people show their love of life?

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Atheists hands down. After this life, I'm fucking gone. Forever. If you're religious you think you're going to turn into an angel and fly around heaven getting titwanks and shit after you die. In fact if I honestly believed in that stuff I would spend every day secretly hoping that something comes out of nowhere and kills me.

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Why should the majority suffer for the sake of the minority? Is this how people show their love of life?

...Yes because people who aren't raped and choose to get an abortion are a SUFFERING MAJORITY! OH NO! THOSE POOR PEOPLE WHO WENT INTO A CLINIC WILLINGLY TO GET A PARASITE REMOVED FROM THEIR INNARDS! IF ONLY SOMEONE HAD FORCED ABORTION TO BE ILLEGAL! It's the fault of those damn rape victims. The nerve of those horrible people to be unwillingly impregnated.

 

[Necrofudge]

Atheists. If this is the only life you have, you need to cherish it. Look at all these religious people who would gladly give up their lives to be with god faster. I highly doubt that they value their lives very much. There will always be a higher value in something irreplaceable, instead of something temporary that is replaced by something nicer when you lose it.

 

[ThreeWords]

A question just popped into my head that i can't quite answer. Who values a life more, an atheist or a person with religious belief? I have no idea, because on the one hand, religious people are usually the ones who go out and protest against abortion (which is messed up btw, cause forcing a woman to have a kid after she's been raped is insult to injury on the highest level) but on the other hand, an atheist believes that this is it, and once you're gone, you're gone. At least thats from what i've come to understand anyway, any thoughts on this?

Neither. Religious doctrine does not effect people's moral disposition. Mostly it is their culture that dictates their ethical code, so an atheist and a religious perosn form the same country are likly to have the same value for human life

 

[grimsprice]

I do know that, I refrain from bringing up 'naked singularities' simply because ABSOLUTE chaos is incredibly hard to percieve.

Yeah, you're tellin me.

Quantum Mechanics, Electron wave physics, Tacheon physics, Relativity, Temporal distortions, Infinite density gravity wells. The list of bizarre shit is quite long. All i'm saying is we might be more complicated than we think.

"Now my own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."
-Haldane.