A conundrum to drum. No-one under 18.

[Khada]

All I will say is this: Don't ever stop using your logic/reason/rationality. Even when your "cock" is begging otherwise. That said, there are times where you will knowingly take a risk or do something silly and that's OK. Just weight up the facts/evidence, choose an approach and try to come out of it a good person.

 

[WolfThomas]

The girl honestly sounds a little crazy, the whole meeting the foster mother seems intensely awkward too. If it was me I'd be running for the hills. But I understand how it is to be a 17year old, sex it's really feast or famine, no inbetween. So in the words of my father, "if you can't be good, be careful".

Don't give the girl you're home phone address, only your mobile, you can screen that and/or change it if necessary, always wear a condom, you don't know if she might have something from another partner or be the sort of girl who lies that she's on the pill, so you get her pregnant. Watch out for crazy ex-boyfriends.

 

[hooksashands]

I want you to try a mental exercise. Imagine this girl naked. Now imagine her leading you into a bathroom. "We can do it," she promises, "but first I need to take care of something." Now imagine her sitting down and proceeding to take the smelliest, loudest, longest dump ever. Just an hour of her grunting and shitting.

You're welcome.

 

[Xaio30]

Last time that happened to me, she turned out to be a psycho.
I decided to back away from our (very early stage) relationship and she decided to make my life a living hell.

I wish you good luck whatever path your choose.

 

[warprincenataku]

Listen, you're young, these things you have to learn on your own. Personally, if I were you I'd have fun with her, don't things too serious and see where it goes. If it implodes then fine, if it goes on long-term, then deal with it once it reaches that status.

On a related note, I have seen good students get pulled down by the friends they keep and especially a girlfriend or boyfriend who is an 'underachiever'. So just be wary of that and you'll be fine.

 

[Buzz Killington_v1legacy]

In this thread: some good advice, but a large proportion of people saying "Hey, go ahead and stick your hand into the box marked ACTIVE BEAR TRAP INSIDE...it might not even go off. Go for it!".

 

[Gunner 51]

I say "hit it." You're only young once, now's the time for a dangerous relationship. I missed that boat when I was your age, OP and have since regretted it.

 

[senorfatso]

I don't see how any level of forum preaching is going to convince your penis not to.

OT, I can't see what the dire consequences are. Are you afraid that it will affect your studies? Piss off your parents? I'd get a head start before uni if I was you, you can still get good grades whilst rowing, drinking and shagging.

 

[ultimateownage]

You're under 18 and you wrote it. So seeing as you've essentially broken your own rule instantly, I went ahead and read it anyway.

Long story short: Don't do it you idiot. Just have a wank and then don't see her again.

 

[sam42ification]

Why is no one under 18 allowed to read this??? I'm under 18 and can understand the trouble you are having. Your situation reminds me of a new sitcom (i think it's new. It's new in Australia) called Raising Hope. Raising Hope is about a kid (well i think he is about 18 or 19) who is driving to the store one night and finds a women who running for her life. He invites her into his van and drives her away from the trouble. She then thanks him by having sex with him. He brings her home to meet the family. They're all watching the news and a report goes out on the news about a murderess girl who has sex with guys then kill them. So the family rings the police. They catch and she is sent to prison to be killed (the chair). They discover she is pregnant so she has the child and then she is killed. the kid is dumped with the guy who then has to raise the child in a white trash suburban home.

Now this girl you speak of has a crimal record like the one from the show. If you have sex with her she is likely to brutally murder you. I suggest you hand the phone number into the police and relocate to mexico...

Thank god tv is there to teach us valuable lessions like this.

 

[northeast rower]

No-one under 18 and you're 17...

Figure out what the criminal record's for. Then bang her anyway.

 

[Thyunda]

That guy J-e-f-f-e-r-s said earlier that there are too many 'if's and 'why's to conclude anything about the girl. I'm going to have to disagree with him. There is plenty of information to judge the girl. But your judgement went completely in the wrong direction if you ask me.

True, I did say that. My reasoning, I should hasten to add however, is that it's pointless to go "Oh no Son, stay away from her, she's obviously a crazy slut crackwhore who wants to infect you with the STDs!!1!" when all we really know is that he likes her, she likes him, and she at some point in her life did something to get a criminal record. The girl could be a crazy psycho *****, or she could be the hottest, nicest, friendliest girl in the whole county. We know fuck all about her, so passing moral judgements about her, as many are doing on this thread, seems ludicrous.

That said, the fact that she was honest and upfront with the OP about her criminal record and foster family situation suggest to me that she's alright. She obviously wanted to lay all the awkward stuff out on the table and get it out the way (which must have taken some guts, as not all guys are mature or responsible enough to handle girls with criminal records or foster families), rather than trying to hide it from the OP and springing it on him at a later date. She seems to be acting open and honest about herself with him, which is the most important thing.

Slightly off-topic, but I can't help but notice that the product of abstinence only sex-education seems to be manifesting itself in some of the thread replies. A lot of people going "Oh noes, sex is a beautiful, lovely thing that should be kept for someone you care about. People who do the naughty with someone they don't know are baaaaad people." To them I say, grow the fuck up. We're living in the 21st Century, not the Middle Ages.

I knew a girl like this once. Actually, she'd be 19 now. Huh. Anyhow, she set me on fire once. Two years later, my friend introduces me to his new girlfriend. It's her. Soon after, they break up. She appears at his door over and over again, insisting she's pregnant and demanding baby supplies. Within a matter of weeks, the baby is a stillbirth and is buried in a local cemetery and there's a lynch group after my friend.

Yeah. Alright. That sounds truthful. The description of the girl in the OP does sound spookily like her though.

Yeah. Don't do that. Sex is rarely just sex, there is a life afterwards. I'm not saying it should be reserved, I'm just saying, it has consequences. The alcohol is the main problem here, not so much the criminal record. Also, the forceful forwardness? That's usually a bad sign. You can tell me how women like sex and that's why it was - don't you think I know that women enjoy sex too? However, look at it this way. You like sex. You meet a girl. Do you just launch into it? No, I suspect not, because most of us like to gauge the target first, unless we're in a club or some such place, and even then, alcohol is heavily involved.

Can't you see the problem here?

 

[thylasos]

Use a condom. Apart from that, go for it, if you've sussed out her situation.

Sometimes people like to fuck. Fair enough.

 

[Boba Frag]

Ok, not to sound nasty, but I think you should ignore any advice that starts freaking out about the criminal record thing.

It sounds like the girl has had a fairly rough life, but that in no way makes her a bad person.
As has been said to death, everyone has baggage.

I well remember the joys of being a sexually frustrated 17 year old, so I totally understand where you're coming from.

I think that you should make sure you're not going to end up hurting either this girl or yourself- you don't need to launch into a relationship at all, just make sure you both know what's going on. There's clearly chemistry there, so anyone who starts spouting off about 'ewwww they're trying to use you! Sex that early is EVIL!!' etc etc has no fucking idea what they're talking about.

A former girlfriend of mine was very much a buttoned down respectable girl and still is, but we were still sleeping together quite early in the relationship. That doesn't make her any less at all, it just means that we fell for each other very quickly and needed the human comfort the other provided.

Just have fun, relax, and buy a condoms. For God's sake know how to use one as well.

 

[Athinira]

Yeah. Don't do that. Sex is rarely just sex, there is a life afterwards. I'm not saying it should be reserved, I'm just saying, it has consequences. The alcohol is the main problem here, not so much the criminal record. Also, the forceful forwardness? That's usually a bad sign. You can tell me how women like sex and that's why it was - don't you think I know that women enjoy sex too? However, look at it this way. You like sex. You meet a girl. Do you just launch into it? No, I suspect not, because most of us like to gauge the target first, unless we're in a club or some such place, and even then, alcohol is heavily involved.

Can't you see the problem here?

I actually can't.

It's my opinion that it's good for people to experience sex, since it's one of the things that will help you later in your life when you are trying to make something happen with a girl who isn't so straigthforward about it. I have plenty of females friends who broke of with an otherwise great guy because he simply was inexperienced in bed. Women loves sex too, and they instantly become addicted to skillful lovers. For a young guy like OP, jumping at the chance to get some experience can very well serve him later.

I think you're letting your friends story cloud your judgement, because that's certainly not the general story. I'd say your friend has been very unlucky (and depending on whether or not he used a condom, stupid), but that's not a scenario that's going to happen often, even if the girl might seem like the one in your story. If he is careful, plays his cards correctly, he stands to gain a lot more than he can lose on this. That's the one great thing about what happened to your friend: Others can learn from you sharing his experience here

 

[smithy_2045]

Is she hot enough to be worth the risk? If yes, go for it, if not, move on.

 

[Thyunda]

Yeah. Don't do that. Sex is rarely just sex, there is a life afterwards. I'm not saying it should be reserved, I'm just saying, it has consequences. The alcohol is the main problem here, not so much the criminal record. Also, the forceful forwardness? That's usually a bad sign. You can tell me how women like sex and that's why it was - don't you think I know that women enjoy sex too? However, look at it this way. You like sex. You meet a girl. Do you just launch into it? No, I suspect not, because most of us like to gauge the target first, unless we're in a club or some such place, and even then, alcohol is heavily involved.

Can't you see the problem here?

I actually can't.

It's my opinion that it's good for people to experience sex, since it's one of the things that will help you later in your life when you are trying to make something happen with a girl who isn't so straigthforward about it. I have plenty of females friends who broke of with an otherwise great guy because he simply was inexperienced in bed. Women loves sex too, and they instantly become addicted to skillful lovers. For a young guy like OP, jumping at the chance to get some experience can very well serve him later.

I think you're letting your friends story cloud your judgement, because that's certainly not the general story. I'd say your friend has been very unlucky (and depending on whether or not he used a condom, stupid), but that's not a scenario that's going to happen often, even if the girl might seem like the one in your story. If he is careful, plays his cards correctly, he stands to gain a lot more than he can lose on this. That's the one great thing about what happened to your friend: Others can learn from you sharing his experience here

The girl wasn't pregnant. There was no miscarriage. The girl was off her head.

Now. Sex is good. The more the better. However, is it worth the consequences? Always consider the consequences. I know it's cool to just say 'forget the consequences', but then, when it comes back bad, the fuck do you do then? What happens when YOU want to break it off and she doesn't? She's already demonstrated that she likes to have what she wants, when she wants it, given her aggression already, and the fact her foster mother hovers awkwardly by the door means that she's clearly taken the run of the house.

What foster mother allows a daughter to do all that? Not one that expressly cares for her adopted daughter's welfare. This is something you don't want to be involved in. This won't be anonymous. It'll be a calamity.

 

[The Gatherer]

Some good game talk this. Keep it up