A few thoughts about January 6, 2021

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This is nothing short of a conscious, strategised escalation

Uh so I wanted to just have at tucker and make jokes and insults but honestly... That's genuinely frightening.

Like what's his endgame here? Does he not care that he's gonna get people killed or is that the goal?
 
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Uh so I wanted to just have at tucker and make jokes and insults but honestly... That's genuinely frightening.

Like what's his endgame here? Does he not care that he's gonna get people killed or is that the goal?
You're talking about someone whose brain has been completely taken over by worms, who doesn't have a shred left in him that could even resemble humanity. Ofcourse he doesn't care.
 
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You're talking about someone whose brain has been completely taken over by worms, who doesn't have a shred left in him that could even resemble humanity. Ofcourse he doesn't care.
Sorry, to clarify, I meant does he want people dead or is it just a side effect that he doesn't mind. Like that's the worst part, I don't know if he's a true believer or of he's just willing to kill for a few bucks.
 

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Sorry, to clarify, I meant does he want people dead or is it just a side effect that he doesn't mind. Like that's the worst part, I don't know if he's a true believer or of he's just willing to kill for a few bucks.
It's difficult to tell how much of his own bullshit Carlson believes, but I'm leaning on it mostly being a case that he doesn't give a shit who gets hurt as long as he gets paid and Republicans can maintain power. For all the conservative complaining that the left are too condescending, no one thinks less of rank and file Republican voters than Republican politicians and their media mouthpieces.
 
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Sorry, to clarify, I meant does he want people dead or is it just a side effect that he doesn't mind. Like that's the worst part, I don't know if he's a true believer or of he's just willing to kill for a few bucks.
Who knows if he actually wants people dead. He's probably not actively trying to get people killed though, he's so rich and out of touch and so thoroughly surrounded by his own bullshit that I doubt he sheds a single thought on the lives and deaths of other people. He's in his own sick bizarro world.
 
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Holy fuck, these people are fuckin' deranged. They're gonna inspire a whole new breed of domestic terrorists with this shit. This is 100%, without a hint of doubt, fuckin' terrorism. And everyone involved in this should be put behind bars.
These so-called "Patriots", want to start their own Purge. Assholes.
 
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How hard is it to accept that sometimes, people you might agree with on other issues do abhorrent things?
My (very armchair) analysis is that a large part of it, at least on the US conservative side, is due to how closely intertwined political beliefs have become with religious beliefs. When you're fighting for the side of "righteousness," in the religious sense, the idea that acting on those beliefs produces an "evil" result is literally not compatible in the manner that '1+1' cannot equal '4'. Therefore the only possible conclusions are that either there was no "evil" result (eg: 'What insurrection? They were just touring the capitol.') or the "evil" result was perpetrated by non-believers to make actual believers look bad (eg: 'It was a false flag!').
 
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My (very armchair) analysis is that a large part of it, at least on the US conservative side, is due to how closely intertwined political beliefs have become with religious beliefs. When you're fighting for the side of "righteousness," in the religious sense, the idea that acting on those beliefs produces an "evil" result is literally not compatible in the manner that '1+1' cannot equal '4'.
People in general are bad at accepting that their ideas can be used for ill intent. For America's anti-intellectuals in particular, it's not even their ideas but the ideas of others they have adopted as their own. If those ideas turn out to be wrong, they have nothing left and they're not used to forming new opinions on their own since critical thinking isn't taught well in the American education system, when it's taught at all.
 
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Holy fuck, these people are fuckin' deranged. They're gonna inspire a whole new breed of domestic terrorists with this shit. This is 100%, without a hint of doubt, fuckin' terrorism. And everyone involved in this should be put behind bars.
Fox News is harmful propaganda and should be removed from existence.

But, "mUh FrEdUmB oF SpEeCh".
 

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This is nothing short of a conscious, strategised escalation

Can we talk about the weird focus they have on the concept of battling White Supremacy?

Like... why? What's the reason to repeat Biden's pledge to root out White Supremacy? If the whole thing is a B-roll of all the 'horrible things that the Left is doing against ', Patriots'', why even mention it? Is Tucker's own people admitting that attack against White Supremacy will affect more than a few of the watchers of Fox News?
 

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If the whole thing is a B-roll of all the 'horrible things that the Left is doing against ', Patriots'', why even mention it? Is Tucker's own people admitting that attack against White Supremacy will affect more than a few of the watchers of Fox News?
They've gotten really comfortable saying the quiet part out loud.
 

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Another corrupt cop. He should be charged and not allowed to resign. He should be fired.


 
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LANSING — Michigan officials say they are preparing to launch a criminal investigation after election equipment at the center of a voting tabulator conspiracy theory went missing this week in a rural, conservative community.



Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, a Republican whose social media has included QAnon memes, had refused to allow a vendor to conduct routine maintenance on a Hart Intercivic Inc. voting machine.



Hillsdale County Clerk Marney Kast, a fellow Republican who the state tasked with running the local election instead of Scott, told Bridge Michigan her office attempted to retrieve the Adams Township equipment earlier this week but was unable to locate the tablet, which she described as the “brains” of the machine.



"I don't know where it's at or if it's been tampered with," Kast said.



Scott, the Adams Township clerk, did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Thursday from Bridge.



In a rare move, the Michigan Bureau of Elections this week stripped Scott of her election administration authority, accusing the first-term clerk of refusing to fulfill her “legal responsibilities” and spreading misinformation about the tabulators used in Hillsdale County.



Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's office, which oversees the elections bureau, declined comment on the missing election equipment Thursday morning.



A spokesperson for the first-term Democrat cited a "pending criminal investigation” but did not provide any additional details.



Kast said she and staff went to the Adams Township hall to secure the voting machine on Monday at the direction of Michigan Bureau of Elections Director Jonathan Brater, who had written Scott that day instructing her to refrain from any election administration activity.



County officials collected the tabulator case, but when they unlocked it the next day in their offices at the Hillsdale County Courthouse, "the tablet was missing," Kast told Bridge.



Benson’s office did not respond to questions from Bridge about the “pending criminal investigation” or provide requested communications between Brater and Scott.



Scott told Bridge on Tuesday that she was concerned about the accuracy of the tabulator and feared maintenance or servicing could wipe old data, echoing unfounded claims that voting machines may have been rigged against former President Donald Trump in 2020.



She accused the state of “tyranny” for stripping her election authority.



"The county clerk's office and now Secretary of State are demanding I drop off my machine for unfettered access, and God only knows doing what to it,” Scott told Bridge earlier this week. “When you have the fox guarding the hen house, somebody's got to stand up and guard those hens.”



The state recently warned Scott of potential "consequences should you continue to fail to perform your statutory duties" and asked her to correct "false" statements.



Brater told her by letter that the tabulator itself does not actually store any data, which is instead housed on a USB drive during each election and later downloaded onto a county servier for preservation. Local clerks retain all paper ballots.



QAnon memes



Scott’s personal Facebook page includes memes in support of QAnon, a wide-ranging conspiracy theory alleging world governments are controlled by a shadowy cabal of pedeophiles who worked to undermine Trump and steal the 2020 election.







Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott’s Facebook page included this QAnon meme in July 2020. (Facebook screenshot)

The first-term Adams Township clerk, who took office this year, did not respond to a voicemail or follow-up text message about her Facebook posts, including QAnon logos she appeared to delete this week.



But QAnon references remain sprinkled throughout her Facebook profile, including posts alleging liberal pedophilia and several that include the conspiracy theories’ rallying cry “WWG1WGA,” or “where we go one we go all.”



On Nov. 9, six days after the 2020 election won by Democratic President Joe Biden, Scott posted a link to election fraud theories from former state Sen. Patrick Colbeck, R-Canton Township, and added her own commentary: “This isn't over. WWG1WGA.”



The same day, Scott criticized a National Public Radio fact check that disputed Trump’s claim Biden was “rushing to falsely pose as the winner” because the results had not yet been certified, a process that Congress and Vice President Mike Pence would conclude on Jan. 6 despite riots at the U.S. Capitol.



“WAKE UP AMERICA,” Scott wrote. “Media does not declare election results. States aren't certifying because they they (sic) will be held legally liable for the results they sign their names to. WWG1WGA”



The FBI in 2019 labeled QAnon a potential domestic terrorism threat, a description adherents have contested as the movement has become increasingly prominent.



State Rep. Daire Rendon, R-Lake City, wore a QAnon pin to a recent rally at the Michigan Capitol and told The Detroit News that Q is "the highest level of security in the federal government."



Kristina Karamo, a Trump-endorsed candidate for Michigan Secretary of State, spoke at a QAnon-linked conference last weekend and posted a logo with QAnon references to her own Facebook page. But her campaign told Bridge Michigan that Karamo does not believe in the conspiracy theory.



At the “Patriot Double Down” in Las Vegas, Karamo and election candidates in four other states announced they are part of a "coalition" working with Trump loyalist Mike Lindell and others on a plan to tighten voting rules, including a ban on mail-in ballots that are currently guaranteed in the Michigan Constitution.



Scott, the Adams Township clerk, in February posted on Facebook a series of Lindell videos purporting to prove “election fraud and the theft of America.”



That month she also posted a meme suggesting Google is involved in harvesting "adenchrome" from children, a reference to the false QAnon conspiracy that celebrities essentially drink kids’ blood in satanic rituals to obtain a chemical compound that produces a psychedelic high.







Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott’s Facebook page in February 2021 included a meme referencing a QAnon conspiracy theory that Hollywood elites essentially drink kids’ blood in satanic rituals to obtain a chemical compound that produces a psychedelic high. (Facebook screenshot)

Scott’s posts related to QAnon date to before the 2020 contest, in which she was also elected but ran unopposed.



In July 2020, Scott shared a meme disputing that QAnon is a “cult,” instead describing it as a peaceful movement whose "sole weapons are logic & research."



More recently, Scott in April again posted the “WWG1WGA” slogan while sharing a pro-Trump video that included tweets in which the former president falsely claimed the election was rigged by “suprise ballot dumps” in cities like Detroit.



‘A tight ship’



Michigan's Republican-led Senate Oversight Committee spent months investigating the 2020 election and found no evidence of widespread fraud. Instead, the committee debunked various conspiracy theories about the presidential election and said citizens "should be confident in the results."



Kast, the Republican Hillsdale County clerk, said she is not active on Facebook and is not familiar with Scott’s posts or the QAnon conspiracy theory.



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She too has concerns about the 2020 election, Kast said, but those are limited to “large Democratic cities” that appeared to follow a “playbook” last year.



“In this county, there’s no concern,” Kast said. “I run a tight ship here.”



The Hillsdale County Republican Party supports Scott, according to Secretary Jon Smith, who said he is not sure whether the state actually had the authority to shift election authority to the county.



If Scott suspects her voting machine is inaccurate or otherwise compromised, there should be some mechanism to investigate those fears, Smith told Bridge.



“There's not enough transparency, there's not enough direction, there's not enough understanding of how to do and go about it.”



Smith said he was unaware of Scott’s Facebook posts, telling Bridge Michigan he has “never followed” QAnon and considers it “a distraction.”



Because of the missing equipment now under investigation, Hillsdale County officials who will run next week’s Adams Township election used their own machine to conduct a ballot accuracy test in a public hearing Wednesday night.



And that machine will be used to tabulate next week’s election, in which local voters will decide whether to renew a school operating millage, Kast said.



Scott had ignored state requests to confirm she would sign off on the accuracy test, which is part of the reason the state stripped her of election administration responsibilities, according to Brater.



But the sidelined clerk attended Wednesday night’s accuracy test and peppered Kast and County Deputy Clerk Abe Dane with questions about the tabulator, including whether it connected to the internet during elections.



At one point, Kast warned Scott she would “have you removed by a sheriff's deputy if you don't stop interrupting.”



Dane assured Scott that tabulators can only connect to the internet after polls close to transmit unofficial results. He showed observers how the machine asks to connect after all ballots are counted and results are printed on a paper tape.



“We tried to clear up some inaccuracies” about the voting equipment, Kast told Bridge on Thursday morning, acknowledging that Scott and other attendees appeared to remain skeptical.



“We tried our best.”
 

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In my home state? I don't fucking think so! Burn the mother-fucker!

Thank you for the heads up; I'll be sure to spread the word.
 
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January 6th could’ve been avoided if Trump just accepted his loss with grace and stopped spreading this vicious lie that he was cheated out of winning. He still lies about his loss and his supporters still believe him. It’s crazy.