A game that PRODUCES lots of memes = a good game?

[DioWallachia]

or is that the game just happens to be played by people who dont know any better or are too impressionable??

Better yet, think of a game that is good but has no memes around it or at least a very small and not so annoying meme. There is no limit of what could be a "good" game, it could be tons of fun or just well designed but it has to have a few memes.

UPDATE: OOOOOOOOOOOOH, you all were thinking that i was refering too........NONONOONO
I didnt mean that the game HAS memes or references of other thing into it but instead its has bits that became memes and the question is if people keep producing memes of a certain game, that certain game is good???

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Serious Sam. The most "meme abuse" there is is people doing a call-and-response on some Youtube videos:
"AAAAAAAAAAAA"
"AAAAAAAAA yourself!"
It doesn't spread onto videos that aren't about Serious Sam. And Bastion doesn't have any memes at all that I've seen...

 

[DioWallachia]

Serious Sam. The most "meme abuse" there is is people doing a call-and-response on some Youtube videos:
"AAAAAAAAAAAA"
"AAAAAAAAA yourself!"
It doesn't spread onto videos that aren't about Serious Sam. And Bastion doesn't have any memes at all that I've seen...

The "AAAAAAAAAAAAA" meme feels like the Spychonauts meme of "I am The Milkman, my milk is delicious" because you cant just spam it everywhere without context. At least that is what i fell like. In fact, i wonder how many developers go for the "meme worthy" appeal to make sure the game gets well know

You are right about Bastion.............unless someone makes a contest of "Who has the best sliky voice: The VA of Rucks or Morgan Freeman" (I dont know the name of the Voice Actor of Rufus, please let me know)

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Serious Sam. The most "meme abuse" there is is people doing a call-and-response on some Youtube videos:
"AAAAAAAAAAAA"
"AAAAAAAAA yourself!"
It doesn't spread onto videos that aren't about Serious Sam. And Bastion doesn't have any memes at all that I've seen...

You are right about Bastion.............unless someone makes a contest of "Who has the best sliky voice: The VA of Rufus or Morgan Freeman"

His name is Logan Cunningham. And personally, I wouldn't mind which one read bedtime stories on prime-time TV.

 

[Haz88]

I'd say that good games doesn't have to have memes, meaning anything that hits the marks on Memebase or 4Chan. But good games are usually very memorable, parts of which people then make into jokes. Memes, at least according to the lectures on TED.com, are pretty much just ideas in a very broad sense that spreads from one to another and not just jokes or references.
Good game without a meme on Memebase yet? Frozen Synapse, Q.U.B.E., Uplink, Blocks That Matter, Gemini Rue... Those are of course not anywhere near as big like World of Wracraft, Call of Duty or the Final Fantasy series.
My bet is that the more people play the same game the more people will be more likely to reference the same experience, and with the internet it is easier to go a place where 3 million people spout the same jokes as one self.

 

[Vegosiux]

Arguably, a good game creates memes, not uses them to bait people into playing.

 

[Mr. In-between]

Memes are stupid. I long for the day that they fall off.

 

[DioWallachia]

I'd say that good games doesn't have to have memes, meaning anything that hits the marks on Memebase or 4Chan. But good games are usually very memorable, parts of which people then make into jokes. Memes, at least according to the lectures on TED.com, are pretty much just ideas in a very broad sense that spreads from one to another and not just jokes or references.
Good game without a meme on Memebase yet? Frozen Synapse, Q.U.B.E., Uplink, Blocks That Matter, Gemini Rue... Those are of course not anywhere near as big like World of Wracraft, Call of Duty or the Final Fantasy series.
My bet is that the more people play the same game the more people will be more likely to reference the same experience, and with the internet it is easier to go a place where 3 million people spout the same jokes as one self.

Well...."Portal" and "Blood" are good games and yet you only heard about Portal. And its kinda weird for me since both games are good in their black humor. I was about to say that since Blood was made before the rise of the Internet popularity it fell into obscurity, however, even Duke Nukem got more attention than Blood but maybe its because of the Duke Nukem Forever fiasco that was around the Internet just before it became more used.

And then there is the problem that once a meme becomes overused, it starts to make people who dont know the game to stay away from it in a Hype Aversion kind of way

 

[Lt_Bromhead]

I used to know a good example of lesser-known memes, but then I took an arrow to the knee...

 

[Smertnik]

Meme "humour" is one of the lowest kinds of humour, besides reference humour, so no.
Unless you mean it the other way around, i.e. games spawning memes (or rather games with bits made to memes), which is not an indicator of quality in any way.

 

[DioWallachia]

Meme "humour" is one of the lowest kinds of humour, besides reference humour, so no.
Unless you mean it the other way around, i.e. games spawning memes (or rather games with bits made to memes), which is not an indicator of quality in any way.

Ok, now i am confused if i actually explained it well in the first post. I was under the impresion that bits of the game that just happens to be memorable or fun become memes, even death scenes like Metal Gear Solid (Snake? SNAKE?? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!) and so on.

 

[DioWallachia]

I used to know a good example of lesser-known memes, but then I took an arrow to the knee...

Why you dont take a seat over there >>>>> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/586943
Come on, take a seat

 

[krazykidd]

Arguably, a good game creates memes, not uses them to bait people into playing.

This .

What a weird question . If a game put in memes for the hell of it , it's like the loser kid at school that tries to be populer by doing what the cool kids do . That only makes things worst . If a meme appears from a game it's because people took a certain phrase from the game and made it popular . OP you have things backwards.

 

[DioWallachia]

Arguably, a good game creates memes, not uses them to bait people into playing.

This .

What a weird question . If a game put in memes for the hell of it , it's like the loser kid at school that tries to be populer by doing what the cool kids do . That only makes things worst . If a meme appears from a game it's because people took a certain phrase from the game and made it popular . OP you have things backwards.

Sorry, had to Update the post because apparently i didnt make it clear

 

[loudestmute]

or is that the game just happens to be played by people who dont know any better or are too impressionable??

Better yet, think of a game that is good but has no memes around it or at least a very small and not so annoying meme. There is no limit of what could be a "good" game, it could be tons of fun or just well designed but it has to have a few memes.

what is this i don't even--

*smack*

...Okay, serious time. If a game that contains a lot of memes is considered good, then the answer is no. It shows laziness on the part of the development team, and it doesn't inspire much confidence that they were willing to be slightly more creative in their game design.

If a game that spawns its own memes should be considered good, then no again. Memes are not made as an homage to a quality work. They're created from something being repeated endlessly after it has been turned into a formula. More importantly, memes created from games rarely stay in the topic of games. Pretty Cool Guy, Gentlemen, All Your Base...All of these started as gamer in-jokes, then slowly spread into greater annoyances.

Tell you what, OP. If meme + game is all you need right now, I suggest you go hitting up flash game deposits like Newgrounds or Kongregate. That way, you don't have to risk money to see if the concept can be done, much less done well.

 

[Nalbis]

I don't think it happens on purpose, people simply like making memes out of interesting/silly things in games.

 

[DioWallachia]

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I am not in the games for the memes. I just happen to think that people keep banging on the "Arrow to the Knee" in the same way as "The Cake is a Lie" to the point is annoying, but made me think that they just keep referring to it like it was his selling point or the ONLY memorable thing on the rest of the game. Sort of like polishing the turd, and that is not a good sign

I updated the OP because apparently people believed that it was memes or reference inside a game instead of a game producing memes on his own merits.

 

[sifffffff]

Good games don't create memes. Douchebags create memes.

 

[DioWallachia]

Good games don't create memes. Douchebags create memes.

Normally, i dont think that someone will like to quote a douchebag if he is a douchebag

 

[9thRequiem]

Memes are based around a core of repetition, so nope. Obviously, a game has to be widespread enough to gain sufficient notoriety so that people know them, and this usually means they're fairly good, but this is more of an incidental byproduct.
If the "arrow to the knee" thing was just one guy in Skyrim, it'd arguably be a better game, as less content would be repeated, but wouldn't be meme-worthy.
Likewise, the lesser-known "I never asked for this"; DX:HR would have been improved by the main character being less angsty, but would remove the meme.