His other novel, A Thousand Splendid Suns, is also a very good book.RocksW said:I'd like anything really as long as its good, but i'd prefer a more character focused story this time. Something like 'the kite runner' by Khaled Hosseini maybe, but a different subject matter.
I agree about the Dreamers series. It wasn't his best. I don't think he was being lazy, it came off more as he was experimenting a little bit (all of his stories have an underlying thematic issue he kinda touches on, Belgariad=Destiny, Elenium=Theology, Althalus=Time. Yes, all of these appear in each story, but one has a bit more of a focus). I think The Dreamers tried to focus on Perception, but it just didn't come across as well as he does in the others.thaluikhain said:I'd point out that you can get more or less any Eddings series, because they are all exactly the same. Except for the last one, in which he proves to the skeptics that some effort was required for his earlier works, by showing us what happens when he really can't be bothered.Jaded Scribe said:Although it's epic fantasy, I think you might like David Eddings. His character development is excellent, and he lets the characters drive the story as much as the characters are driven by events. Get Belgarath the Sorcerer, Polgara the Sorceress, The Belgariad, or The Elenium books.
But, especially with The Belgariad (a 5-book arc), think of it more as one story chopped into 5 parts. You aren't going to see major climaxes in every book, but the story sweeps along at a good pace.
You had a problem with The Mallorean?Jaded Scribe said:Although it's epic fantasy, I think you might like David Eddings. His character development is excellent, and he lets the characters drive the story as much as the characters are driven by events. Get Belgarath the Sorcerer, Polgara the Sorceress, The Belgariad, or The Elenium books.
But, especially with The Belgariad (a 5-book arc), think of it more as one story chopped into 5 parts. You aren't going to see major climaxes in every book, but the story sweeps along at a good pace.
Ok, havent got that far yet, but now im very afraid. im at the bit when he goes to view paul owen's apartment. are u saying the zoo bit is worse than the car battery? because that bit actually made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.theflyingpeanut said:I know. Tell me, has he gotten to the zoo yet? Because for me, that was the most horrifying part of the whole book. If you've read it, you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not even going to write it down, because it's just too ... shocking to risk spoiling it. Bateman is easily the most monstrous character from any story I've read, and this may have been his most monstrous moment.Cargin said:...and thats not even the worst bit, and im not even finished it yet! definitely a book that requires some kind of mental stamina, but so far, utterly genius.theflyingpeanut said:It is worth reading because it's fantastic. The characters are delightfully repulsive, the writing is brilliant, and Patrick Bateman's descent into further madness is compelling. But if you're bothered by violence, don't get it because you probably won't manage to get through the book. Some of the acts stay with you. I'll tell you one particularly horrible act, without mentioning names, but I'll still leave it in spoilers in case you want all the horror.RocksW said:I was considering reading that once, it sounds interesting but very unpleasant at the same time lol. Was it worth reading for the ammount of horrible stuff in it?theflyingpeanut said:Well, American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis is pretty much focused on the one character. A completely psychotic, hideous, and compelling character. Though I give you fair warning; this is the most violent book I've ever read. Especially the violence against women. At some points, I actually had to stop reading the book for a bit to take in what Patrick just did.
He nails a woman to the floor, sprays he face with mace repeatedly, cut's out her tongue, and then fucks her in the mouth a couple of times. Other stuff happens to her over the next few pages. Aren't you glad you read that?
Kaffir Boy was very good, and if you like Kite Runner the overall feel of the two books is very similar. It's basically a story of apartheid. Very dark subject matter, but very well written. I think it's non-fiction.RocksW said:Hey escapist, im looking for a new book to read. I'd like anything really as long as its good, but i'd prefer a more character focused story this time. Something like 'the kite runner' by Khaled Hosseini maybe, but a different subject matter. I'm not against fantasy, but i'd prefer if it was at least a bit grounded in the real world.
Having said that though i'm open to pretty much anything, feel free to recommend anything. Maybe just give a brief synopsis of what its about though, so i know why you liked it. Thanks:]
The act in itself is not overly horrific, but the thought process behind it is just so ... terrifying. There are more disgusting acts, one involving a hungry rat, but this one disturbed me the most. Maybe you've went past it and it's not bothered you as much, but he only kills one person at a zoo, so it should be noticeable.Cargin said:Ok, havent got that far yet, but now im very afraid. im at the bit when he goes to view paul owen's apartment. are u saying the zoo bit is worse than the car battery? because that bit actually made me throw up a little bit in my mouth.theflyingpeanut said:I know. Tell me, has he gotten to the zoo yet? Because for me, that was the most horrifying part of the whole book. If you've read it, you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not even going to write it down, because it's just too ... shocking to risk spoiling it. Bateman is easily the most monstrous character from any story I've read, and this may have been his most monstrous moment.Cargin said:...and thats not even the worst bit, and im not even finished it yet! definitely a book that requires some kind of mental stamina, but so far, utterly genius.theflyingpeanut said:It is worth reading because it's fantastic. The characters are delightfully repulsive, the writing is brilliant, and Patrick Bateman's descent into further madness is compelling. But if you're bothered by violence, don't get it because you probably won't manage to get through the book. Some of the acts stay with you. I'll tell you one particularly horrible act, without mentioning names, but I'll still leave it in spoilers in case you want all the horror.RocksW said:I was considering reading that once, it sounds interesting but very unpleasant at the same time lol. Was it worth reading for the ammount of horrible stuff in it?theflyingpeanut said:Well, American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis is pretty much focused on the one character. A completely psychotic, hideous, and compelling character. Though I give you fair warning; this is the most violent book I've ever read. Especially the violence against women. At some points, I actually had to stop reading the book for a bit to take in what Patrick just did.
He nails a woman to the floor, sprays he face with mace repeatedly, cut's out her tongue, and then fucks her in the mouth a couple of times. Other stuff happens to her over the next few pages. Aren't you glad you read that?
Im in total agreement with u tho on Bateman. possibly the only thing that keeps me reading it is to see just how much further he can spiral into insanity (i mean, how can he go much further?!?!)
Not at all! But if the OP is unfamiliar with Eddings, starting with The Mallorean (sequel series to The Belgariad) or The Tamuli (sequel series to The Elenium) wouldn't make much sense.Layz92 said:You had a problem with The Mallorean?Jaded Scribe said:Although it's epic fantasy, I think you might like David Eddings. His character development is excellent, and he lets the characters drive the story as much as the characters are driven by events. Get Belgarath the Sorcerer, Polgara the Sorceress, The Belgariad, or The Elenium books.
But, especially with The Belgariad (a 5-book arc), think of it more as one story chopped into 5 parts. You aren't going to see major climaxes in every book, but the story sweeps along at a good pace.
Oh I read that! I'd forgotten about it! yeah you're right its brilliant, i might read some more of Nick Hornby actually, theres a good idea :]warm slurm said:I think A Long Way Down by Nick Hornby is one of the best "character" stories I've read. It got pretty mixed reviews when it was released, but I think it's awesome. The characters are just fantastic.
Synopsis: The story is written in the first-person narrative from the points of view of the four main characters, Martin, Maureen, Jess and JJ. These four strangers happen to meet on the roof of a high building called Topper's House in London on New Year's Eve, each with the intent of committing suicide. Their plans for death in solitude, however, are ruined when they meet. The novel recounts their misadventures as they decide to come down from the roof alive - however temporarily that may be.