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SckizoBoy

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TrilbyWill said:
SckizoBoy said:
... No, it isn't, if it'a maths we're talking, the answer is always either '1' or '0'. And four is an unlucky number where I come from!
what's 1+1?
2.
i think ye mean bin-arr-y.
and its actually either 9, seagulls or 42.
Ah, sorry, too vague a reference. The answer being '1' or '0' is the Occam's Razor of competitive maths quizzes... and yes, I did do them... many... many... many years ago now...
 

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otakon17 said:
Check it, all the letter groupings are 5 characters a piece EXCEPT the last one. That has to be a clue to solving this, right?
Mentioned above, "crnult" is 6 characters.
 

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WaruTaru said:
otakon17 said:
Check it, all the letter groupings are 5 characters a piece EXCEPT the last one. That has to be a clue to solving this, right?
Mentioned above, "crnult" is 6 characters.
Aye, saw that after I posted. 51 five character groupings, 1 six character grouping, and 1 three character grouping. I've got nothing.....
 

ShindoL Shill

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SckizoBoy said:
TrilbyWill said:
SckizoBoy said:
... No, it isn't, if it'a maths we're talking, the answer is always either '1' or '0'. And four is an unlucky number where I come from!
what's 1+1?
2.
i think ye mean bin-arr-y.
and its actually either 9, seagulls or 42.
Ah, sorry, too vague a reference. The answer being '1' or '0' is the Occam's Razor of competitive maths quizzes... and yes, I did do them... many... many... many years ago now...
soooo... last tuesday?
everything happened last tuesday. unless it happened last wednesday, or today.
 

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I figured it out! It says: "Fuck you all to those who can read this. Tee hee, you probably thought this was important."

I'm kidding of course, but I honestly have no idea how I can decipher that. Maybe if I put more time into it, I might be able to. I have work I should be doing so... yeah.
 

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"One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" seems to nearly fit...
Edit: if the 6-letter word should have 5 letters, then my guess is out :p
 

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WaruTaru said:
otakon17 said:
Check it, all the letter groupings are 5 characters a piece EXCEPT the last one. That has to be a clue to solving this, right?
Mentioned above, "crnult" is 6 characters.
i have to admit, that was a mistake on my part, however, it doesnt change the solution at all.
 

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Hitokiri_Gensai said:
WaruTaru said:
otakon17 said:
Check it, all the letter groupings are 5 characters a piece EXCEPT the last one. That has to be a clue to solving this, right?
Mentioned above, "crnult" is 6 characters.
i have to admit, that was a mistake on my part, however, it doesnt change the solution at all.
A mistake? what should it be then??
 

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Also, beside the k, there is no x or z, which are probably the least used in the english language (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a native english speaker).
That makes me think all letters included are actually the same used to decipher the riddle, you just have to rearrange them.
Some other stats: there is 53 words. The 6-letter word is the 23rd word.

Working on it...

Just 1 question: does using an external software can help in deciphering it?
 

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RaeveSpam said:
Hitokiri_Gensai said:
WaruTaru said:
otakon17 said:
Check it, all the letter groupings are 5 characters a piece EXCEPT the last one. That has to be a clue to solving this, right?
Mentioned above, "crnult" is 6 characters.
i have to admit, that was a mistake on my part, however, it doesnt change the solution at all.
A mistake? what should it be then??
it should be 5 letters like the others. However, it doesnt change the solution.

You need to figure out WHICH cipher method i used, in order to solve it.
 

SckizoBoy

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orangeban said:
Isn't the whole point of a cipher that it can't be solved without a copy of the cipher?
Not really, a lot of ciphers (Caesar, Rail-fence and even substitution ciphers, provided there is enough cipher-text to analyse) can be cracked either mentally or with pen and paper.

What you're thinking are bifids, trifids, ADFGVX ciphers and columnar transpositions that specifically require a key (word or square) to generate the transformer.

This is not strictly speaking a cipher, since OP's mentioned that every letter of the solution is in the 'cipher-text'. It's most likely a sectioned anagram or inter-element transposed affair... *shrug*
 

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SckizoBoy said:
orangeban said:
Isn't the whole point of a cipher that it can't be solved without a copy of the cipher?
Not really, a lot of ciphers (Caesar, Rail-fence and even substitution ciphers, provided there is enough cipher-text to analyse) can be cracked either mentally or with pen and paper.

What you're thinking are bifids, trifids, ADFGVX ciphers and columnar transpositions that specifically require a key (word or square) to generate the transformer.

This is not strictly speaking a cipher, since OP's mentioned that every letter of the solution is in the 'cipher-text'. It's most likely a sectioned anagram or inter-element transposed affair... *shrug*
if it's really an anagram of sorts though we are fucked. no way we can solve it then. so i'd say no to that.
 

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My head hurts, I was never any good a cracking codes. I though you might have left a clue to a key phrase to help decipher the code but I'm coming up blank. You are a very evil genius op.
 

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orangeban said:
Isn't the whole point of a cipher that it can't be solved without a copy of the cipher?
Yes, but it's far from perfect. There is no such thing as a cipher that can't be cracked. If you put enough time and effort into it, you can crack any code.

The problem is, if you try to manually brute force a solution to the good modern ciphers, it would take you longer than the remaining lifetime of the universe to solve it. Running several powerful computers in parallel makes it achievable, but still time consuming. This particular cipher is relatively simple, so it shouldn't be too hard to solve. There's no strange characters or other ASCII fuckery to deal with, it's a straight letter/number conversion. I'm not sure on the solution, and I honestly can't be fucked to find it, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
 

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i got it^^ well actually my friend did. she worked cryptography for the german army for a while some years back, so it was an unfair advantage really. she took one look and started reading like it was the god damn brothers grimm.

and no, it was no bifid, it's what i first thought too.
 

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Agayek said:
This particular cipher is relatively simple, so it shouldn't be too hard to solve. There's no strange characters or other ASCII fuckery to deal with, it's a straight letter/number conversion. I'm not sure on the solution, and I honestly can't be fucked to find it, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
I think simple is an incredibly relative term here. There seem to be a couple of hundred different variations of Bifid cyphers (if this is indeed one of those) And we have no idea which. There are no keywords or hints, the message is quite short and it's been posted in a forum of people that are internet famous for being unable to work out whether 0.9 = 1.
We don't stand a chance.

EDIT: Damn. I may have to eat my words now. Bloody Germans. So, what was the code, how was it solved, and what did it say?
 

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Kathinka said:
i got it^^ well actually my friend did. she worked cryptography for the german army for a while some years back, so it was an unfair advantage really. she took one look and started reading like it was the god damn brothers grimm.

and no, it was no bifid, it's what i first thought too.
Alright folks the phrase is the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

For the sake of it, i removed punctuation and spaces.

Alright this seems to have gotten a good bit of reception so im going to be placing another one up in a few days. This next one will be considerably more difficult and it will take a good bit of knowledge base to really get the answer. HOWEVER, i will be awarding an actual prize so it should be good!