Wow, dude, chill out. I don't even own a fucking bike. I was just countering the OPs whining.Stryc9 said:
A message to all Cyclists.
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My bigger problem is around here I findCrimsonBlaze said:
A) Cyclists like to be in the middle of the road for some reason (you are asking to be hit if you do that imho)
B) Not wearing reflective colors, I'm sorry but you can't wear black/dark colors when riding on the road, especially at night, if a vehicle can't see you they can't be morally faulted for hitting you (though they will be under the law...), you gotta wear highly visible colors, I don't care if you look like a highlighter at least you are seen.
I can't speak for Australia, but where I live, they do have the right. They actually are required to use the road.Gentleman_Reptile said:
And you do not have an understanding of the laws that apply to cyclists. Bikes are considered vehicles, and expected to be either in the same lane as you or in the bike lanes. There might actually be reasons for those cyclists to not be in the bike lanes. For my part, I prefer to stay in them, because I know there's people like you all over the place who think they have a monopoly on the road lanes. That doesn't mean they're always available (or safe, such as a long line of parallel parked cars in or next to the lane, any one of which could have its driver side door open right before you get to it).Gentleman_Reptile said:
You're armored, you're faster, and unless you screwed up, you should be able to make up for the time lost to cyclists. You also have a bit too much rage, and are probably a bigger danger on the road for that than any cyclist.
The answer is simple, when cyclists start paying road tax and insurance they will then have as much right to be on the road as I do in my car. Until that point they can shut it with respect to moaning about drivers. Yeah drivers act like idiots, they do stupid things but then so do a lot cyclists, since the driver is the one paying for your modified cycle friendly road, for your cycle friendly bike only cycle path and doing so with a road network that is in piss poor condition as it is, as far as I am concerned the cyclists can just shut the fuck up.
When you pay for it THEN you have a right to complain.
When you pay for it THEN you have a right to complain.
Ah, well in Canada it's not, sorry bout that.lacktheknack said:
And if your talking to me specifically, I am 17 and I have to wear a helmet and even if I didn't I still would. If you weren't and were saying it only to the people who don't I agree. It's stupid to not wear a helmet it can only help.
True, because they tend to think they are indestructible. But unfortunately I have to say the police probably have better things to do, I'm not saying your wrong, they certainly should be reprimanding them. It's mainly up to parents to make sure that their kids are wearing a helmet, if I didn't wear mine, I wouldn't have a bike anymore.CrimsonBlaze said:
not really feasible in sprawled out cities or...just places that get cold. I dont feel like riding a bike 3-4 hours a day to and from work. 15-30 minute drives to work with no traffic are commonplace in many places in the US alone.Giftfromme said:
dear cyclists,
please obey basic traffic protocols. Just because you are on a bike doesnt mean that you dont have to obey ANY rules and can do whatever floats inside your head.
Also, firecrackers are illegal in my state, so you dont have to worry about people throwing them at you.
I'm IN Canada... which province are you in? Or have I just been LIED to all my life?AwesomeWunderbar said:
(Not that it matters, because helmets should always be worn anyhow, as we agreed.
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No, falling of a bike isn't a joke. Unlike me saying I would push someone off, which is a joke... Although clearly it's outrageous to pepper a light-hearted forum rant with a little bit of humour these days.Talaris said:
Something needs to be done about cyclists in London, it's a really big issue at the moment. As in genuinely dangerous for drivers, commuters and pedestrians alike. I'd vote for a party with the balls to deal with them, but unfortunately it's against the current spirit (what with British successes at cycling lately). Half tempted to take a cricket bat to the closest traffic lights now, and take out every cyclist that runs a red...
Dear Driver under 20 years of age.
Stop fucking texting and swerving while I'm cycling on the side of the road.I probably will have a fuckton of moneys worth of airsoft gear in my pack and I don't want to buy it all again because you can't hold a steering wheel and you NEED to check what's going on on Facebook.
It's scary when you have some dosey fuck driving their car while letting go of the wheel completely to text,Making me slam on the brakes the instant he/she/it lets go and swerve on the footpath.
Stop fucking texting and swerving while I'm cycling on the side of the road.I probably will have a fuckton of moneys worth of airsoft gear in my pack and I don't want to buy it all again because you can't hold a steering wheel and you NEED to check what's going on on Facebook.
It's scary when you have some dosey fuck driving their car while letting go of the wheel completely to text,Making me slam on the brakes the instant he/she/it lets go and swerve on the footpath.
I don't know what the laws are for your area of the globe, but this is factually incorrect in my part of Canada (and as far as I know, every other part of Canada as well). Bikes can't be ridden down the side walk, nor should they be allowed to do so.Gentleman_Reptile said:
They are road vehicles and should be ridden on the roads if there are no specified bike lanes or trails available for them. End of story.
It is illegal in many places for cyclists to drive anywhere but the road when traveling on main roadways. Driving on the side walk is illegal and for good reason, so no, they already have as much right to use the road as you do. Moreover, they are at far more risk in the event of an accident while on their bike than you are in your car if you hit them. Like it or not, that's simply how it is. Complaining about how they have no right to ride in the streets when they are legally obligated to is silly.Laughing Man said:
I can't speak for all places, but where I live it's a huge problem. I don't drive a car. I can't even drive one, I don't have a license and I don't care for one because I don't like to drive and I'm terrible at it. I look really hot in the passanger seat though.. Anyway, cyclists here are constantly putting themselves and others in danger. They refuse to use the biking roads the government spent litteral millions constructing for them, roads that even have tunnels under the road so that they don't even have to get off their bikes at zebras or wait at traffic lights... They have no respect for walking people, and because those little rining bells "look stupid" they don't have those to warn you they are comming, so you only know it when they yell "hey!" when 4 meters behind you, and then obviously have to break because your not catwoman and capable of instantly reacting and jumping out of the way... And then I get yelled at. Well, not me because I look kinda scary, but you might! And of course they wouldn't want to look 'stupid' in their $300 biking tights...
In the city it's not a problem. Traffic is practically frozen 90% of the time, and the city is pretty compact so you can basically just walk anywhere worth being within about 30 minutes. The cyclists in town are not the "professional" types you see on the roads in the outskirts, they are generally students on cheap bikes that pedal their way trough town at a reasonable pace. Even the few serious ones slow down, I guess they realize there's simply too many pedestrians around they have to "hey!" and then swear at.
Go Dutch people! *cheers*
In the city it's not a problem. Traffic is practically frozen 90% of the time, and the city is pretty compact so you can basically just walk anywhere worth being within about 30 minutes. The cyclists in town are not the "professional" types you see on the roads in the outskirts, they are generally students on cheap bikes that pedal their way trough town at a reasonable pace. Even the few serious ones slow down, I guess they realize there's simply too many pedestrians around they have to "hey!" and then swear at.
Your traffic culture much better includes bikes because EVERYONE in your beautiful flat country ride them! I have a friend there I visit frequently, and the bikes are everywhere! If they couldn't get along with the cars, all hell would break lose. You also have reasonable infrastucture to accomodate the bikers, which is good =3.Casual Shinji said:
Go Dutch people! *cheers*
Yes, we are pretty cool, aren't we? *smirk*Playful Pony said:
But don't call us "flat", we preffer "nether".
Once again I am baffled by the self-entitlement complex most cyclists have.
"Culture" < Public Safety
Car Pollution < Economic Logistics
Car break check < Bicylce break check
Cycling in major cities sounds great, but major cities have bike lanes. As a cyclist myself I stay on the shoulder
of a road without a bike lane. Considerate drivers give me a respectable distance because I'm not out in the middle of the road. If I'm on a busy road with no one on the sidewalks, then I ride on the sidewalk and no cop looks twice.
It pisses me off when some smug jackass on a bicycle assumes his 50 lbs of metal moving at best 10mph (if he's an Olympic medalist) makes him equal to a 2-ton car moving (at the slowest) 30mph. No you are not the same, not physically, not legally. You are causing accidents. I think its going to take a bunch of YouTube videos to illustrate my point, because all most cyclists want to do is ***** ***** *****.
"Culture" < Public Safety
Car Pollution < Economic Logistics
Car break check < Bicylce break check
Cycling in major cities sounds great, but major cities have bike lanes. As a cyclist myself I stay on the shoulder
of a road without a bike lane. Considerate drivers give me a respectable distance because I'm not out in the middle of the road. If I'm on a busy road with no one on the sidewalks, then I ride on the sidewalk and no cop looks twice.
It pisses me off when some smug jackass on a bicycle assumes his 50 lbs of metal moving at best 10mph (if he's an Olympic medalist) makes him equal to a 2-ton car moving (at the slowest) 30mph. No you are not the same, not physically, not legally. You are causing accidents. I think its going to take a bunch of YouTube videos to illustrate my point, because all most cyclists want to do is ***** ***** *****.
NO they don't but way to miss the point. Just because it is illegal for them to cycle elsewhere does not automatically mean they have as much right to use the road as someone WHO FUCKING PAYS TO UPKEEP IT.
The best they can hope for is tolerance but hearing a cyclist complain at a car driver, well that takes the fucking biscuit. When they pay road tax and insurance then they can complain about the car drivers till the cows come home, but until that point they are using a service that is paid for by the guy their stupid slow arse is holding up.
So, I assume their is a point but I fail to see what you're trying to say...
...no, my response to that one is meh and so?