A new book in the Middle Earth Legendarium to be released this year, The Fall of Gondolin.

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/apr/10/the-fall-of-gondolin-new-jrr-tolkien-book-to-be-published-in-2018

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/04/10/new-the-lord-of-the-rings-book-the-fall-of-gondolin-coming-soon

To those that don't know what is Gondolin:



And allow this music to set the mood of this picture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-zcW2CsLE

Gondolin was the ancient Hidden City of the Noldor Elves (Think High Elves in Warhammer and Warcraft) during the First Age in a region in Middle Earth known as Beleriand, hidden deep within the Encirciling Mountains.

Its beauty and greatness eclipses that of Minas Tirith in the Third Age. And by the end of the First Age was the last stronghold to defy the menace of Morgoth, the First Dark Lord.

However, its fall was brought about by envy and betrayal and Morgoth then unleashed his massive army of Orcs, Dragons, Balrogs, and War Machines and succeeded in sacking the city. It was the most bloodiest, devestating, and costly siege the Noldor Elves and the heroes we follow have suffered.

And this was one of the first things Tolkien wrote about Middle Earth, after surviving the Battle of the Somme in World War 1 mind you.

To be honest I never thought this book would be made. I thought Christopher Tolkien will die before publishing it I mean the man is in his 90s, I guess he has some life left in him to complete this trilogy of the Silmarillion, There are many stories in the Silmarillion, but 3 parts of it could be turned into stand alone epic stories on thier own: Beren and Luthien, The Children of Hurin, and The Fall of Gondolin.

I hope there is more narretive substance in this book than it was in Beren and Luthien, its already available for Pre-Order in Amazon:


https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Gondolin-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/1328613046/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1523453098&sr=8-3&keywords=The+Fall+of+Gondolin
 

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Ok I have to ask, does anyone here know anything about Middle Earth other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings?

I made this OP with as much enthusiam and excitement as I can and so far not a single post, and I was hoping for a rousing discussion of this :(
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Ok I have to ask, does anyone here know anything about Middle Earth other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings?

I made this OP with as much enthusiam and excitement as I can and so far not a single post, and I was hoping for a rousing discussion of this :(
Nope. Sorry :/
 

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Yeah this is pretty cool. I always wanted to know more about the Fall of Gondolin (the Silmarillion only glances over it), especially considering, as you say, it was the first part of the entire Legendarium to be written, it really needed to be fleshed out more than it was.

I should really re-read the Silmarillion at some point; it's a bit of a weird book, but there's so many awesome and epic moments in it. It honestly surprises me that more people haven't read it, or that Hollywood hasn't tried to cash in and make a series of movies about it, or at least parts of it. Beren and Luthien would be easy to make a movie out of, as would the Children of Hurin, though I kinda wanna see the start of the war, so we can see Feanor fighting like 20 Balrogs at once, or Fingolfins 1v1 against Morgoth at the end of the Dagor Bragollach.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Ok I have to ask, does anyone here know anything about Middle Earth other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings?

I made this OP with as much enthusiam and excitement as I can and so far not a single post, and I was hoping for a rousing discussion of this :(
Nope. Sorry :/
Buy the Silmarillion and get out of that Lord of the Rings/Hobbit Niche you are trapped in.

You must know the First Age of this world.

Don't wait for a Movie/TV adaption which they probably won't do justice anyway.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Drathnoxis said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Ok I have to ask, does anyone here know anything about Middle Earth other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings?

I made this OP with as much enthusiam and excitement as I can and so far not a single post, and I was hoping for a rousing discussion of this :(
Nope. Sorry :/
Buy the Silmarillion and get out of that Lord of the Rings/Hobbit Niche you are trapped in.

You must know the First Age of this world.

Don't wait for a Movie/TV adaption which they probably won't do justice anyway.
Hmmmm. Maybe I'll listen to the audiobook when I'm done with Lovecraft.
 

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I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
 

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Elijin said:
I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
Yeah, the opening is hard to get through, but if you can manage it it's worth it. Once it gets past the metaphysical creation of the gods and the world and gets down into Arda and the elves awaken things get much more interesting.
 

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Elijin said:
I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
I couldn't comprehend the Ainulindale at first, than I kept reading it more and understood.

All I have to know is that the universe was created through music. And its rather beautiful.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Elijin said:
I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
I couldn't comprehend the Ainulindale at first, than I kept reading it more and understood.

All I have to know is that the universe was created through music. And its rather beautiful.
This is exactly the sort of cliche response I sadly expected from someone who is endorsing the book. It's not complicated. It's not special, it's not some well guarded secret which will pay off. The opening of the book reads like crap and is totally uninteresting. I wouldn't be surprised if you could entirely cut the entire old testament spiel without actually hurting the total experience one iota.

Which, someone probably should.
 

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Elijin said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Elijin said:
I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
I couldn't comprehend the Ainulindale at first, than I kept reading it more and understood.

All I have to know is that the universe was created through music. And its rather beautiful.
This is exactly the sort of cliche response I sadly expected from someone who is endorsing the book. It's not complicated. It's not special, it's not some well guarded secret which will pay off. The opening of the book reads like crap and is totally uninteresting. I wouldn't be surprised if you could entirely cut the entire old testament spiel without actually hurting the total experience one iota.

Which, someone probably should.
If that's the case for you, then don't read the Ainulindale.

The Valaquenta already sums it up for you.

The Ainulindale was showcasing the creation of the world in a first hand account, you are reading it from the perspective of the gods.

The Valaquenta is read from the perspective of Elven historians chronicling the event.
 

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Elijin said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Elijin said:
I feel like people who've read the silmarillion have these excessively rose tinted lens on that pretend the opening wasnt as riveting as the old testament.

Maybe it gets better. I, and many like me, will never know because we dont give a fuck who begat who. Those who got through the openingare either very patient, bored or easily held hostage over their next middle earth lore hit.
I couldn't comprehend the Ainulindale at first, than I kept reading it more and understood.

All I have to know is that the universe was created through music. And its rather beautiful.
This is exactly the sort of cliche response I sadly expected from someone who is endorsing the book. It's not complicated. It's not special, it's not some well guarded secret which will pay off. The opening of the book reads like crap and is totally uninteresting. I wouldn't be surprised if you could entirely cut the entire old testament spiel without actually hurting the total experience one iota.

Which, someone probably should.
The Silmarillion isn't really a novel. It's a mythic history book spliced with the occasional poetic epic, cobbled together from decades of author's notes after he died, many of which contradict each other. It takes a certain mindset to enjoy a thing like that, but going in with the right expectations helps.
 

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SupahEwok said:
The Silmarillion isn't really a novel. It's a mythic history book spliced with the occasional poetic epic, cobbled together from decades of author's notes after he died, many of which contradict each other. It takes a certain mindset to enjoy a thing like that, but going in with the right expectations helps.
That's part of the reason why I am so strongly in favour of the release of things like "The Children of Hurin", "Beren and Luthien" and hopefully "The Fall of Gondolin". They provide multiple versions of the texts, and include a lot more dialogue, along with frequently providing context for where they tale is coming from. The Silmarillion is a good introduction to the Legendarium, but it's far from the be all end all.
 
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I always liked the extended lore of Middle Earth, tho I've only digested it in the form of wikis/online and of course, the appendices. In particular, Gandalf, Saruman and the rest of the Maiar I find utterly fascinating. I think mostly because of Gandalf and Sauron but they occupy a very interesting space in Middle Earth lore which I believe makes them such interesting characters.

I never read the other books, tho I did recently see the Beren and Luthien novel which piqued my interest. It's an obvious parallel with Aragorn and Arwen, whose relationship is an interesting one because of the cultural and magical natures of humans/dunadain and the elves.