A Perfect People, A Perfect World, or; The Eugenics Movement

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lacktheknack

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You know what? No. No, I do not support it.

I'm 99% positive that Eugenics as it stands does nearly NOTHING to the gene pool, as it's a question of recessive genes, mutations, mild cases, etc.

My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics. None of the symptoms I mentioned appeared in our direct heritage for at least four generations, so if it was genetic, then Eugenics would have helped nothing, as all my ancestors were healthy, and if it's not, then why should she not be allowed children? (Actually, she has a severe enough case of whatever it is that she actually can't have children, but that's hardly relevant. If she had a milder case, she'd be a great mother.)

Also, everyone acts like mental imperfections are a plague. Well, looks like my Tourette's Syndrome has gotten me on the "No Children" list, if that's the case. Does this have bearing on me as a father? No, my Tourette's is too mild. Has anyone in my direct heritage had obvious symptoms? No. Is it a rare thing? No, about 0.1% of the population has it. Is this bad? No, Tourette's has been known to gift people with ridiculous musical gifts, increased wit, quicker brain function, etc. BUT OMG, IT'S A MENTAL IMPERFECTION! Pfffft. Mental quirks make people interesting.

"But I'm not talking about basic mental quirks and disorders, I'm talking about debilitating diseases and genetic curses!" I don't buy that either. If your disease/mental issues are so bad that it's worth tossing you out of the gene pool, then chances are that you weren't able to have/raise children in the first place.
 

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There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
 

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AdeptaSororitas said:
InfiniteSingularity said:
Once we have this power, it will go further so people will be choosing their child's hair color, eye color, etc. "Perfect children". A "perfect" world. It's an absolutely horrendous idea.

I like the principle of getting rid of hereditary diseases & conditions but lets face it - what's gonna stop people from taking it too far?
A board of either fellow citizens or government officials.
I wouldn't trust either one with a box of jewelry, myself. I'm not sure I want them in charge of my cloning ethics, especially since I'm as anti-human-cloning as you can get.
 

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lacktheknack said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
InfiniteSingularity said:
Once we have this power, it will go further so people will be choosing their child's hair color, eye color, etc. "Perfect children". A "perfect" world. It's an absolutely horrendous idea.

I like the principle of getting rid of hereditary diseases & conditions but lets face it - what's gonna stop people from taking it too far?
A board of either fellow citizens or government officials.
I wouldn't trust either one with a box of jewelry, myself. I'm not sure I want them in charge of my cloning ethics, especially since I'm as anti-human-cloning as you can get.
Well as we can see Democracy stands. It would be the same basic principle.
 

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lacktheknack said:
My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics.
You have my sympathies, I know how hard it is to live with, and how wonderful they can be. But, just as a side note. Aspergers is a type of autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder with many different types. It's kind of like cancer. All lung cancers are cancer, not all cancers are lung cancer. It's that type of thing. >.> Just a small side note, to help you understand better. The more you know the better she will be. =D
 

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Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics.
You have my sympathies, I know how hard it is to live with, and how wonderful they can be. But, just as a side note. Aspergers is a type of autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder with many different types. It's kind of like cancer. All lung cancers are cancer, not all cancers are lung cancer. It's that type of thing. >.> Just a small side note, to help you understand better. The more you know the better she will be. =D
Thanks. She's the sweetest thing in the world when she's happy...
 

Tselis

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chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
 

AdeptaSororitas

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Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
Oo! Can I have some?!
 

Tselis

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lacktheknack said:
Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics.
You have my sympathies, I know how hard it is to live with, and how wonderful they can be. But, just as a side note. Aspergers is a type of autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder with many different types. It's kind of like cancer. All lung cancers are cancer, not all cancers are lung cancer. It's that type of thing. >.> Just a small side note, to help you understand better. The more you know the better she will be. =D
Thanks. She's the sweetest thing in the world when she's happy...
My middle child has autism, and she's just the most awesome little person ever. She hears everything, whether you think she's listening or not; combine this with an amazing photographic memory and a temporal dissonance in her thing and the fun ensues. My husband and I call her our little magic hat. "You can put anything in, but you never know when you'll get it back out."
 

lacktheknack

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Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics.
You have my sympathies, I know how hard it is to live with, and how wonderful they can be. But, just as a side note. Aspergers is a type of autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder with many different types. It's kind of like cancer. All lung cancers are cancer, not all cancers are lung cancer. It's that type of thing. >.> Just a small side note, to help you understand better. The more you know the better she will be. =D
Thanks. She's the sweetest thing in the world when she's happy...
My middle child has autism, and she's just the most awesome little person ever. She hears everything, whether you think she's listening or not; combine this with an amazing photographic memory and a temporal dissonance in her thing and the fun ensues. My husband and I call her our little magic hat. "You can put anything in, but you never know when you'll get it back out."
I came into this thread expecting to be depressed out of my skull, but now I've got warm fuzzies. Thanks. :D
 

chaosyoshimage

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Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
I just never sleep, but I have no life, don't listen to me...
 

Tselis

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
Oo! Can I have some?!
I have a shrink gun and no qualms about using it. ;.>
 

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I feel I should start by saying that I'm bi-polar... but at the same time... I don't WANT kids. It has nothing to do with my genetics... I just don't feel I could raise kids properly and I'm not a fan of the little shitlins to begin with...

On the other hand... I'm bi-polar, and I function. I'm not medicated, and I function. Many diseases and disorders don't stop people from being productive.

It's a problem only when you let it become a problem.
 

AdeptaSororitas

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Tselis said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
Oo! Can I have some?!
I have a shrink gun and no qualms about using it. ;.>
Fine, be that way >.>
 

Tselis

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lacktheknack said:
Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
Tselis said:
lacktheknack said:
My sister has... something. We really don't know what (it looks like Autism crossed with Aspergers crossed with bipolar), but it sure wouldn't have been fixed by Eugenics.
You have my sympathies, I know how hard it is to live with, and how wonderful they can be. But, just as a side note. Aspergers is a type of autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder with many different types. It's kind of like cancer. All lung cancers are cancer, not all cancers are lung cancer. It's that type of thing. >.> Just a small side note, to help you understand better. The more you know the better she will be. =D
Thanks. She's the sweetest thing in the world when she's happy...
My middle child has autism, and she's just the most awesome little person ever. She hears everything, whether you think she's listening or not; combine this with an amazing photographic memory and a temporal dissonance in her thing and the fun ensues. My husband and I call her our little magic hat. "You can put anything in, but you never know when you'll get it back out."


I came into this thread expecting to be depressed out of my skull, but now I've got warm fuzzies. Thanks. :D
You have to understand. I'm a firm believer is relieving the suffering of the millions of have genetic disorders, HOWEVER, I'm not rabid about it. I'll curb stomp anyone how tries to mess with my baby because she's autistic. I'm not saying, "Durr hurr wipe out the stupid people!! Haha!" I'm saying that I love my baby more than anything, all three of them in fact. If there was anything that I could do to make their lives better than I would. That's all I'm really saying, is that I want the world that my children inherit to be better than the one I inherited. If Eugenics could accomplish than, than so be it.
 

Tselis

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chaosyoshimage said:
Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
I just never sleep, but I have no life, don't listen to me...
The oreos are calling to you. You'll have to get your own though, these are mine. I'm sure there are some out there for you though.
 

Tselis

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AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
Oo! Can I have some?!
I have a shrink gun and no qualms about using it. ;.>
Fine, be that way >.>
There are oreos out there for you, you just have to go out and get them, these are mine. I love them and pet them, and pop them in my mouth and crunch. =D
 

AdeptaSororitas

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Tselis said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
AdeptaSororitas said:
Tselis said:
chaosyoshimage said:
There is literally a thread on this every week, isn't there? Like some one made a joke about it the other day, it was worth a few chuckles, but I didn't think it was true...

As for my opinion, just like communism, it sounds good until you try it...
I read somewhere that communism works well for up to 14 people, add 1 more and the whole thing breaks down. The basic family unit is formed around communism, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, now I'm up far past when I should have gone to bed, and am just haunting the forums for shits and grins. At least I still have my oreos.
Oo! Can I have some?!
I have a shrink gun and no qualms about using it. ;.>
Fine, be that way >.>
There are oreos out there for you, you just have to go out and get them, these are mine. I love them and pet them, and pop them in my mouth and crunch. =D
Maybe I will. I think I have some actually.