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Rockchimp69

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Basically just post what your ideal world would be like.

Mine would be as follows:

Politics (sorry if this bit isn't very complex I'm not good at politics :p)
A democratic senate where seats are elected from different political parties.
All decisions will be discussed by the highest ranking politicians who have a seat in the senate.
When a topic is brought up by the above group or highly ranked politicians, they discuss options on how to solve the problem and the options are then voted on by all the "seats".
The senate is only used for world matters and each continent has it's own "sub-senate".


Philosophy & Law
The world nation will be dedicated to freedom. Anyone who commits any crime that steals someone's freedom, for example; murder, theft, racism and anything else which intrudes upon someone else's life, is put in prison for an amount of time depending on their crime (anything from 1 night to their whole life)

All weapons will be banned for normal use through a system which only allows licensed users to fire them but the senate can send teams of soldiers to rescue people from danger (Murderers, zombies whatever). In an emergency the highest ranking member of each team can authorise use of weapons by civilians.

Religious/terrorism attacks of any sort will be regarded as extreme crimes which can result in sentences of up to 20 years max.


Economy
Instead of money there is a ranking system, if the work you do is beneficial to society you get a higher rank, which gives you more privileges (more food etc), however the most basic rank still gives you enough food, shelter and health care to survive.
You can still be in charge of a big company and make loads of money, but it just means you get a better rank.
Because there is no money, all media is free and copyright law doesn't stop you from enjoying free downloads.

Energy Sources
All energy will come from nuclear fusion generators but until those are perfected, from wind power and other renewable energy sources.
Because there will be no fossil fuel energy, cars will be electric and charged over night.

Immigration
Resources will be distributed as evenly as possible to ensure that immigration does not reach dangerous levels in certain areas.

Edit: If some parts are over simplistic, don't flame me, it's just because of my limited knowledge on that area.
 

Smooth Operator

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Admirable as all ideas are, they have a fundamental flaw that cannot be avoided, human nature.
We may live in modern times with all sorts of wonderful machines but the inescapable fact is deep down we are still neanderthals.
And the worst part of that behavior is greed, while it helped us to survive and ultimately overtake the world it has now become an impassable barrier that we keep coming up against when trying to improve the world.

Socialism for example was one of the early attempts at a perfect society, essentially the idea was for all people to be equal and the government to ensure this by controlling everything.
But when you try to do that in a greedy society, where people do not want to be equal, you simply got a tyranny, all were equally exploited for the top brass to live like kings.

How to make a perfect world then?
Wait for evolution, but it will take a long time and it may bring change for the better or worse.
Until then it will be a jungle out there, kill or be killed, exploit or be exploited.
 

Thaluikhain

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Rockchimp69 said:
The world nation will be dedicated to freedom. Anyone who commits any crime that steals someone's freedom...is put in prison
Potential problem there. Admittedly, that's not just with your system, it's one that doesn't go away.

Rockchimp69 said:
Energy Sources
All energy will come from nuclear fusion generators but until those are perfected, from wind power and other renewable energy sources.
Because there will be no fossil fuel energy, cars will be electric and charged over night.
Wellll...one of the reasons people use fossil fuels is that, at present, nothing else works...excepting nuclear plants, of course, but whole nother can o' worms there.

It's simply not possible to get renewable energies to meet demand, except in certain small areas where the conditions are just right (or for certain small esoteric uses).

...

In any case, the system is more or less irrelevant. You won't get your perfect world until everyone agrees on what a perfect world is and works towards it. It doesn't really matter what they think it is or how it should be run as long as everyone agrees. This is the point which all other attempts at utopia have fallen over.
 

Catchy Slogan

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One without People. The world would be better off.

Either that or one where we have colonies on the moon.
 

SimuLord

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Politics
A monarchy. A multitude of rulers is not a good thing. Let there be one ruler, one king. When you put the power in the hands of the people, you get government that's only as good as the populace---said Churchill, "the best argument against democracy is a five-minute chat with the average voter."

Free speech is severely curtailed, and the Sarah Palins of the world are silenced. Not that there's much room for political opportunism in monarchist governments.

Education
Heavy emphasis on the classical liberal arts and the humanities. With the burgher class left largely to service of king and country through state capitalism, the profit motive means that bright young people do not necessarily have the fiscal incentive that makes college in today's world all about "college is expensive, get a return on your investment." With all in service to king and country and with national priorities aimed toward cultural achievements, culture thrives.

Young, bright, exceptional students of all social classes have an opportunity to move up in social class---the social order is a meritocracy.

Popular Entertainment
We bring back the blood sports. The best crime deterrent known to man is the prospect of getting fed to a lion. Besides, I firmly believe that a strong society is a society that celebrates the masculine virtues, and "Ow, My Balls!" (which, really, is what "reality TV" is) has no place in the new order. Having Snooki and JWowwwwwwwww fight to the death in an arena is vastly preferable.

Gender Role
Motherhood is consecrated to the goddess and women are celebrated for their femininity. For 13,000 years of civilization this worked. For the last 60 we've had all kinds of social breakdown with feminism and the changing role of both genders right there at its root.

Religion
State religion---polytheism based on the classical pantheon. All live in service to the gods, right up to the king, but the king has no divine right or ordination, in order that the king may choose his successor in the manner of the Five Good Roman Emperors of the second century AD.

Religion must, however, exist in service to science, even if it means a change in religious scripture. Evolution, the Big Bang, dinosaurs, the age of the universe...the gods' role in the realms that are reserved to what mankind can know must not be used to ravage the progress of knowledge---indeed, it is an affront to the God of Wisdom. They allow us to see that which we may know. As Galileo put it: "I do not believe that the same God that has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

Anonymous
Are hunted down and killed like animals.
 

michaelod

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Rockchimp69 said:
Economy
Instead of money there is a ranking system, if the work you do is beneficial to society you get a higher rank, which gives you more privileges (more food etc), however the most basic rank still gives you enough food, shelter and health care to survive.
You can still be in charge of a big company and make loads of money, but it just means you get a better rank.
Because there is no money, all media is free and copyright law doesn't stop you from enjoying free downloads.
This is very similar to Lenin's War Communism which lead to multiple uprisings.
 

Palademon

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Politics: stop trying to change other people's lives

Philosophy: live and let live

Economy: stop borrowing money

Energy sources: compressed helium plants powered by alternative energy sources

Immigration: live where you want

Education: when a mommy and a daddy love eahcother very much...

Gender role: I DONT CARE WHAT JUNK YOU HAVE

Religion: STOP TRYING TO CONVERT ME
 

Rockchimp69

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thaluikhain said:
Rockchimp69 said:
The world nation will be dedicated to freedom. Anyone who commits any crime that steals someone's freedom...is put in prison
Potential problem there. Admittedly, that's not just with your system, it's one that doesn't go away.

Rockchimp69 said:
Energy Sources
All energy will come from nuclear fusion generators but until those are perfected, from wind power and other renewable energy sources.
Because there will be no fossil fuel energy, cars will be electric and charged over night.
Wellll...one of the reasons people use fossil fuels is that, at present, nothing else works...excepting nuclear plants, of course, but whole nother can o' worms there.

It's simply not possible to get renewable energies to meet demand, except in certain small areas where the conditions are just right (or for certain small esoteric uses).

...

In any case, the system is more or less irrelevant. You won't get your perfect world until everyone agrees on what a perfect world is and works towards it. It doesn't really matter what they think it is or how it should be run as long as everyone agrees. This is the point which all other attempts at utopia have fallen over.
Almost by definition my OP is impossible. Almost. Nuclear fusion is a process which will not be anywhere near as dangerous as current nuclear reactions when they perfect the process enough so that we get more energy back than we use.

Catchy Slogan said:
One without People. The world would be better off.

Either that or one where we have colonies on the moon.
When people say that it's normally because they're personifying the natural world. The world can't think it is only as alive as the animals on it. So if there were no people, there would be no intelligence to observe the peace, therefore it is irrelevant how nice it is.


michaelod said:
Rockchimp69 said:
Economy
Instead of money there is a ranking system, if the work you do is beneficial to society you get a higher rank, which gives you more privileges (more food etc), however the most basic rank still gives you enough food, shelter and health care to survive.
You can still be in charge of a big company and make loads of money, but it just means you get a better rank.
Because there is no money, all media is free and copyright law doesn't stop you from enjoying free downloads.
This is very similar to Lenin's War Communism which lead to multiple uprisings.
And communism didn't work because even within a system with no flaws, man's nature can still ruin it.

SimuLord said:
Politics
A monarchy. A multitude of rulers is not a good thing. Let there be one ruler, one king. When you put the power in the hands of the people, you get government that's only as good as the populace---said Churchill, "the best argument against democracy is a five-minute chat with the average voter."

Free speech is severely curtailed, and the Sarah Palins of the world are silenced. Not that there's much room for political opportunism in monarchist governments.

Education
Heavy emphasis on the classical liberal arts and the humanities. With the burgher class left largely to service of king and country through state capitalism, the profit motive means that bright young people do not necessarily have the fiscal incentive that makes college in today's world all about "college is expensive, get a return on your investment." With all in service to king and country and with national priorities aimed toward cultural achievements, culture thrives.

Young, bright, exceptional students of all social classes have an opportunity to move up in social class---the social order is a meritocracy.

Popular Entertainment
We bring back the blood sports. The best crime deterrent known to man is the prospect of getting fed to a lion. Besides, I firmly believe that a strong society is a society that celebrates the masculine virtues, and "Ow, My Balls!" (which, really, is what "reality TV" is) has no place in the new order. Having Snooki and JWowwwwwwwww fight to the death in an arena is vastly preferable.

Gender Role
Motherhood is consecrated to the goddess and women are celebrated for their femininity. For 13,000 years of civilization this worked. For the last 60 we've had all kinds of social breakdown with feminism and the changing role of both genders right there at its root.

Religion
State religion---polytheism based on the classical pantheon. All live in service to the gods, right up to the king, but the king has no divine right or ordination, in order that the king may choose his successor in the manner of the Five Good Roman Emperors of the second century AD.

Religion must, however, exist in service to science, even if it means a change in religious scripture. Evolution, the Big Bang, dinosaurs, the age of the universe...the gods' role in the realms that are reserved to what mankind can know must not be used to ravage the progress of knowledge---indeed, it is an affront to the God of Wisdom. They allow us to see that which we may know. As Galileo put it: "I do not believe that the same God that has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

Anonymous
Are hunted down and killed like animals.
You have some interesting ideas that I did not expect :D Very realistic.
And by JWOW do you mean that Youtube girl who does "Japanese Word Of the Week?
 

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The definition of a perfect world in my eyes can only be perfect to me and nobody else. If you try to please everyone absolutely, then you can't have perfection because somebody WILL get short-changed. The perfect world for me is the one where I'm in control of it, naturally. What you're looking for is a 'better' world, where everyone prospers. For it to be perfect for everyone would require an act of god to deal with all the contradictions that exist.
 

OniaPL

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You know, if we wish to make any change, we musn't plant seeds while the forest grows. We need to burn-clear first.
 

Thaluikhain

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SimuLord said:
Gender Role
Motherhood is consecrated to the goddess and women are celebrated for their femininity. For 13,000 years of civilization this worked. For the last 60 we've had all kinds of social breakdown with feminism and the changing role of both genders right there at its root.
Worked for the men, you mean. Giving equal rights to women does seem to be in their best interest.
 

ManInRed

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If I were to dream up a perfect world and that dreamscape was reality for the dreams living in it, then I would essentially be God to the imaginary universe.

But how would I shape the universe with unlimited power? I could prevent all evil actions from happen, but then I would be stripping beings in my universe freewill. I could punish or reward people based on their actions to encourage them in the right direction, but how ever I went about this such rule would feel sadistic or egotistical driven rather than to promote real justice or morality. I could give everyone exactly what they wanted, and then they have no conflict or struggle in their lives to give it meaning.

No matter how much I think it over, I don't think I'd make a very good God. And we're probably better off the way things are than anything else I could dream up.

Of course, if it turns out I am God then I'd like to say I'm sorry. I admittedly suck at this, but I hope you at least enjoy the whole existing thing.
 

TWRule

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Mine would be a world where a universal, all encompassing ethic was observed; stemming from an agreed upon ideal model of free will. Everyone would act ethically, and take responsibility for themselves when they failed to.

All government, academia, environmental policy, economy, education, socialization, etc. would stem from the logical conclusions of this philosophy.
 

Dark Knifer

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In my opinion, a perfect world is overrated. If there was such thing as a perfect world, then humans would have no faults at all. Now, what could you achieve in a perfect world? Absolutely nothing, that's what. Everyone would just be like everyone else and have no reason for there existence, since everyone would be exactly the same with no diseases to cure, no criminals to bring to justice, no oppression or even natural disasters to attend to, because it's a perfect world. So, my idea of a perfect world is actually an imperfect one. It's either a perfect world without meaning or an imperfect one with a reason to exist. I'll take the latter every time.
 

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My ideal world would be a socialist paradise *flame shield up*

Yeah, really, talking about my politics here would just piss people off so I'm not going to go there. All I'll say is that power would be in the hands of the people as a whole. Public positions would be open to free election rather than appointment, and all elected officials would be subject to instant recall if they weren't satisfying the interests of their constituents. People would be voting regularly on a wide range of issues from their work place without even disrupting their day - just fill in a ballot at your desk in five minutes and THAT will decide whether a bill should be passed into law or not, instead of some old rich guys in congress deciding to give more money to their mates.

I know people are going to single this out and call it idealistic and stupid. Well of course its idealistic and probably unachievable - I was asked for my ideal world, not "what realistic compromises would you like to see". I know I'm never going to see a working version of this in my lifetime. Still, I hold to my egalitarian ideals and my faith in the average human being.