The_Kodu said:
Except I'm the one pointing out how a persons perspective can influence the magnitude to the problem you're the one claiming their is a binary order to it.
And as such imposing a binary order and being unable to see how perspective impacts the magnitude of a problem.
Binary in this case essentially means something is limited to two options. There is nothing binary about saying there are multiple degrees of attention to give each problem based specifically on that problem. There is when you're saying I'm either accepting your argument or completely dismissing all the problems you bring up. I am claiming something close there being an objective order, which to be fair, there isn't really. But again, I understand what I sometimes go through is bad, at lot worse than many of the people around me. It doesn't begin to compare to a life that involves the fear of being raped or having a marriage and most of your life arranged for you. Individual perspective is actually pretty irrelevant when you're working with millions if not billions of people and the issues that effect people on that scale.
The_Kodu said:
Ok as it appears you've missed my points I'll try another approach.
The man on the Island has two problems, he needs to get milk from the shops and he's stuck on a Island surrounded by Piranhas with no boat and a paper cut. Before he can get the milk, he needs to tackle the rather more important problem stopping him leaving the Island.
However let say a man who does own a boat has two problems Get milk and find out what happened to his friend who went missing while swimming between Islands.
Now in the second case he could do either first, there is no priority as such beyond sentiment, not having milk doesn't stop him finding his friend and not having his friend doesn't stop him getting milk.
I actually had a better idea of what you were saying before this. And yes I did understand that you were saying individual perspective matters, to which I was responding, that if you can see your problems as equivocal to the widespread problems of women being raped, forced out of education, etc, then personal perspective really doesn't matter. I'm going to assume the utilitarian stuff at the end isn't trying to also make it's own point.
The_Kodu said:
No just pointing out the strange stupidity that telling people an act any sane person would identify as bad as being bad isn't going to stop those deranged enough to do it.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, I mean surely that applies to all rape, and in fact any sort of horrific crime in general.
The_Kodu said:
Also while depression isn't exclusively a Men's right issue the dismissal of it or other factors as yet unidentified do lead more men to suicide.
That's fair enough, but half the depressed people I know are female, and imagine being on the other side, struggling with depression and being told it's not actually your issue, it's a women's rights issue that needs to be solved for women.
Vigormortis said:
Given the kinds of threats she usually describes receiving, I fail to see how this new batch of quick-posted, one-time threats are any different.
And even if there was some perceived note of serious intent, the messages themselves are so vague they border on comical. (though malicious)
Public figures receive these sorts of "threats" all the time. In most cases, the more serious and vague the threat sounds the more it is likely from some anonymous troll just trying to be a dick.
Death threats are no laughing matter. Until they are.
None of us here have any authority whatsoever to judge the validity of death threats, so I'm entirely happy to bow to the understanding of those with experience. By the sounds of it, the authorities are involved and I trust them to have a better idea of whats dangerous than a bunch forum posters do.
