A plea for common sense. [UPDATED] I got my reply. 18/1/10

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Radelaide

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Dear Michael Atkinson:
As I'm sure, I would not be the first person to mail you about the matter of introducing an R18+ rating into the Australian Games Industry.
It stands to reason that Australia should have a consistent rating system. There are adult-level novels, films, videos, and television shows, all of which have an adult-oriented rating. The video game industry does not. This is because of minors gaining access to the adult-oriented titles without being of the pre-requisite age.
I agree with you on many points about that issue, but the idea of blocking the rating simply because that some underage minors may get their hands on the game is ridiculous. Many games are enjoyed by people over the age of 18, sensible people who deserve to be treated as adults.
Consider another medium of entertainment, the film industry. Studies show that all forms of violent entertainment media (with film being one of the three primarily studied) will increase a child's likelihood of violent behaviour. Studies also link alcohol-consumption and operating a motorized vehicle as increased signs of violent behaviour, the effects higher for younger participants. From this data, any child that has access to their parent's DVD collection, liquor cabinet, or car keys is at a significantly higher risk of violent crime than one that is not.
Because of that risk, there is a rating system in place for adult-level film media. There are laws in place for operation of a motor vehicle, and a law in place for liquor consumption. There are not laws in place for adult-level video games, nor is there a rating for them. The idea of denying games a classification parallels introducing an alcohol prohibition or banning motor vehicles.
Mister Atkinson, you are the only attorney-general opposed to the matter concerning a great deal of adults in this country. I raise this point as something to consider. Sir, all we ask is that you reconsider your position, and consider a potential need for a change to the system.
I now point you to a comment you made while being interviewed on the matter and was posted on the website http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26319937-5006301,00.html. It says ?"The voters of Croydon will now be asked directly whether they want interactive games in which gamers score points by raping a mother and daughter, blowing themselves up, torturing human figures . . . killing people and taking drugs to improve their sporting prowess," he said.?
Could you please provide names for these games that are not banned in Australia since I cannot recall any? As far as my knowledge goes, RapeLay games are banned in most of the Western world and can?t be accessed by people on the internet without resorting to illegal matters. I also can?t recall a game where players torture innocent people, or blow themselves up, so could you also provide names for these as well. As for ?taking drugs to improve their sporting prowess?, athletes?, people small, impressionable people look up to, do this all the time, in REAL life. Where you can?t simply disconnect from the game and go outside. A lot of them get away with it too. I don?t think that you can honestly blame videogames for that.

On the same article, they posted a poll asking if there should be a R18+ rating in place. I show you the current results as of 10:39pm 8th November, 2009-11-08.
Should there be an R18+ classification for video games?

Yes - most gamers are adults. 82% (1640 votes)
No - just ban offensive games 17% (352 votes)

Total votes Total of 1992 votes

Those results speak thousands of words that I cannot put to paper. 82% of people who voted think there needs to be a change!

One change should be that video games are no longer just for people under the age of 18. Gaming consoles such as Microsoft?s Xbox 360 and Sony?s Playstation 3 are much more geared towards older gamers who look for style and substance over the younger generation. Uneducated people seem to be of the impression that when someone turns 18, they lose all interest in gaming because they?re no longer kids. This is a huge fallacy as I know gamers up to the age of 40 who still enjoy playing a videogame after a long day at work.

As I mentioned before, there are a lot of uneducated people outside of the gaming circle in society. A lot of this comes down to the media scare stories and unfortunately, people such as you supporting those stories. You appear to be a very smart man, but this is one subject you don?t seem to know much about. Here is an article from the website ?Science Daily? entitled ?Could Violent Videogames Reduce Rather Than Increase Violence?? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080514213432.htm
The article talks about how video games are getting more violent, but a man named Patrick Kierkegaard, of the University of Essex writes that there is little evidence to show that games are but harmless devices used to entertain.
Another article, by the Sydney Morning Herald printed a study showing that people under the age of 18 who are already showing violent tendencies are more likely to be affected by violent videogames. http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Most-kids-unaffected-by-violent-games/2007/04/01/1175366055463.html
There needs to be more education towards video games and if an R18+ rating was implemented, stores should be mandated to provide the proper education to anyway who asks for it. Retailers should have huge posters showing the ratings, what they look like and what those videogames may have included in them and the age people under the age of 18 should be before coming in contact with them.

If an R18+ rating was implemented, R18+ games should be treated the same as alcohol, cigarettes or R18+ movies. A system that I?ve discussed with fellow gamers, who are also hoping to write to you, agree that if a game is classified R18+, it should be stored away from the general area, under the counter, or behind the counter and when requested, clerks should ask for a proof of age card or drivers licence to prove age, only then will the game be presented and sold. And if a clerk thinks that a game will be provided to a minor, it is at their discretion if they choose to sell the game or not. These measures will ensure that minors will have a hard time buying a game that has not been rated for them. As it stands, if a game has been refused classification or censored, internet-savvy gamers simply download a pirated version of the game. Another bonus towards the R18+ rating is that piracy of games banned under the current laws will be reduced, proving better for the current economic climate.
You?ve said before that censoring games works, and that you want to make sure that people under the age of 18 shouldn?t be able to see such violence. By not including an R18+ rating in games, those underage people are still seeing content made for 18+ adults, it may be watered down, but the content is still there.
With some fine editing from the fabulous NewClassic, I've updated the letter. I've been a bit slack (things with my unit are progressing quickly) but I'm getting back into it. I encourage all Escapists in Australia to do the same as me! Write to your AG and tell them how you feel!
 

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Gilbert Munch said:
Add in something about if they ban games, then they'll just have to ban violent films and tv shows, and music with swear words in too. If anything, children are more likely to access that media.
This is a very good idea. Add this as another paragraph and I think you have a very solid argument.
 

Radelaide

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This is a little bit of a bump, and little bit of me asking for help. I need anyone who feels as strongly as I do about this to provide me with ideas as to why we need the rating change. I'm up to three pages on this email and I'm a little bit stuck. I'm hopefully sending it off tonight or tomorrow so anyone who has any information, ideas or LOGICAL AND NON-HATEFUL arguments, could you post them?

Remember, he's not a stupid man. I agree with his ideas, but I don't agree with the way he's doing it.
 

lostclause

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Well done and tell us if you get a reply. Other Ozzies, you should probably write in too if you want this changed.
 

Brett Alex

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I was just thinking about this and it pops up. I therefore conclude the only explanation is that I must have the power of spontaneous manifestation.

Either way, that looks like a great letter with a lot of effort put in. Best of luck!

(You are sending this in both electronic and paper right?)
 

tristow

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don't forget to add that most gamers in australia are between the ages of 18 to 35
 

Arcticflame

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You aren't going to do squat I'm afraid.

This is the guy who when people respectfully disagreed with his stance on R rated games, and asked for a forum where they could express their views, he simply asked them to run against him in the next election.

He is firmly stuck in his ways, the only way to get rid of him is wait for him to die or hope he loses his extremely safe seat, none of which are likely to happen soon.

We are screwed basically.

Your letter is written well, and it's exactly what we need, but he's just too entrenched in his ways.
 

DoW Lowen

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My friend sent this letter to Stephen Conroy, the communications minister a while back.

I was so angry I sent an e-mail to the senator. If you want to send something of your own to Mr Conroy you can send off an e-mail to minister@dbcde.gov.au (don't forget to include your real name and address).

To Senator Stephen Conroy,

My name is John Karatovic and I am writing to you after reading this story in the Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/games/web-filters-to-censor-video-games-20090625-cxrx.html). This is the first time I've ever written to a politician regarding something I've disagreed with in the government, but I'm a university student now and thus I've been awakened to my social conscience.
When the government decided to implement censorship over the internet I sat silently, even though I was concerned that such an act could hypothetically be abused by my government to censor information that is freely available elsewhere in the world. I sat silent because I believed my government wouldn't betray the trust the public has given it.

Then I read the aforementioned story.

At what point did anyone decide the government was allowed to be everyone's parent?

Why is there a double standard between games and films? Why can a person buy an adult film in this country but not an adult game?

So okay I'll stay quiet while the government prevents bricks-and-mortar stores from selling games. I suppose that retailers can't be trusted to check for I.D. (hey someone should keep an eye on those liquor stores!) It's okay I can buy my games online. At least on the internet a credit card is required so parents can more easily monitor what their children buy.

Then you go and take the internet away from me.

Senator Conroy I'm 24 years old. After turning 18 I didn't indulge in alcohol and I've never smoked. Has the government decided to ban adult games because they lack a method of taxing them? I mean I see drunk kids, I see teens smoking at any given train station and the answer isn't banning tobacco and alchohol. The answer seems to be taxing.

The state of this country's artistic contribution to the world is hardly what I'd call impressive. We suffer from a famous brain drain and a culture that discourages the cultivation of intellectuals and artists. Video games are the new frontier of artistic progress. Great art challenges, shocks and subverts expectations often shock is an important tool for the creation of great art.

The average age of a gamer is 30. 30! Nobody over 18 needs a nanny tell them what they can and can't access in regards to their entertainment. Nobody can stop someone from reading a violent novel, or watching a pornographic movie. Why do video games recieve your big exception?

Make the laws governing the distribution of games with adult content more restrictive. I work at a Newsagency and I card anybody who looks under 25 when they attempt to gamble I know the penalty for selling lotteries products to a minor is a hefty fine. Apply the same rule that governs gambling to the distribution of games with adult content.

Senator Conroy the government is not meant to be my mother or my father. Your role is not tell me what art is and isn't suitable for my consumption. I'm a free thinking adult, and I want to be able to buy whatever the game I want from where ever I want.

Get back to your mandate of protecting children from pedophiles and implementing your very useless internet censor, you know the one that has no ability to block peer-to-peer sharing. Leave my games, my art out of it.

Thank you for taking the time to read this,

John Karatovic
Months later he received a reply written by the 'Stand-in assistant to the secretary' with a very prompt reply which basically ignored everything he said and outlined the plan which he could receive from any website.

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but they don't listen. You're much better off adding your letter this to a petition. Your email is reasonable and passionate, but I'm sorry to say it will fall on deaf ears. But if you must continue, here is my friend sent so maybe it will give you an idea or two.
 

Radelaide

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Hey guys, update!

I woke up this morning and found this in my inbox:

Dear Sir/Madam

On behalf of the Attorney-General, the Hon. Michael Atkinson M.P., I
acknowledge receipt of your email about the R.18+ classification of
video games.

A letter of response has been prepared and is ready to be signed and
sent to you.

Please supply your full name and postal address so that this response
can be forwarded to you at the earliest opportunity.

Thank you

(Apologies if you have already received this email)


Attorney-General's Department Disclaimer:
The information in this e-mail may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.
Which at least means someone read it. I'll tell you what the letter says when I get it, okay?
 

Radelaide

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bump!
New <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.144722#3256690>update right here. Step right up, step right up!