A possible conflict between Daedra?

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Fappy

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Chicago Ted said:
Pfft...

Be a servant of Hircine or Nocturnal? As if.

I'm the Champion of Hermaeus Mora, Prince of lost secrets, Demon of Knowledge.



Why should I follow those that are incapable of knowing the real truths of the world?
You said it Action Hank!

Hermaeus Mora's got this awesome Cthulhu feel that none of the other Daedra come close to matching in awesomeness. Though, Sheogorath and Azura are neat too.
 

WolfThomas

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Actually by completing each ones quests and gaining their token, you're supposedly selling yourself to all of them. So there's the Nine Divines, Sovengarde, all the Daedra, plus Padomay/Sithis void concepts.

Honestly the Dragonborn likely will choose Sovengarde, and as none of the Daedra are powerful enough to try and claim him without having to fight each other and deal with Akatosh and/or other divines.
Pat8u said:
Im speculating that the night mother is a daedra and the corpse her shrine, and sithis could be her realm of oblivion and every db member who dies serves her in death
That's not too far off one of the theories around the night mother, that she is Mephala. As the Dark Brotherhood seperated from the Morag Tong who worshiped Mephala. He/She is a liar, so I could see her/him misleading the DB with some padomay/sithis stuff when they actually go to her plane.
Syzygy23 said:
Isn't Sithis the closest analogue to a christian style super-God in the TES series? He created the universe (accidentally) and was displeased when it didn't go away, so now he's all about death and ending everything?
Nope, well sort of. In TES lore, there was Anu and Padomay (Sithis), Anu was a force for creation and life and Padomay destruction and entropy. Anu created the majority of the Aedra, Padomay the majority of the Daedra.

Lorkhan, also known as Shor and Shezzar, was the one who convinced the Aedra and Daedra to construct the Mundus the plane upon where Nirn resides, it had the side effect of draining the divinity of some of the gods, who supposedly became the Elven ancestors, so the Aedra and Daedra killed Lorkhan, his body became the moons and his heart created life on Nirn, and subsequently man. All the stars and the sun are where fleeing Aedra and Daedra tore holes to their planes of Oblivion. 8 Aedra remained and they gave up part of their powers to stabilize the Mundus, by becoming 8 other planets. These are the 8 divines.

This is of course all from my memory and the lore, both aren't 100% reliable.
 

Count Igor

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SirBryghtside said:
Count Igor said:
...right, I have now finished up the Companions, and still have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Way I understood, they were kept there by Ysgramor's Companion witchcraft, so Hircine couldn't take them. Hircine still wanted to take them.
The way *I* saw it was
after you helped break the leader free of the spell and he then went to the proper Nord heaven, he said that he was going to get a group together to free the companions of the Daedra's spell, so only those that wanted to would go to the hunting grounds.
 

Substitute Troll

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Ok, so I asked the guy and here's what he said:

"Tough question. Mostly because it's conflicting on overall source. Souls are stated to go into Aetherius unless constrained, by all accounts it depends who's harsher on collections. I don't know the basis, it's a difficult question to determine who would 'get it'. I'd assume, given evidence that some Daedra (such as Azura) are all knowing that they'd have 'snatched it up'.

The problem is there's never been any real definition what exactly is the method for souls until the end of Skyrim which was somewhat obscure in ways too. I'd assume it went to whoever was promised the soul first and there might be just a mechanical problem on who the soul is given too. It might even be avoided by having the soul sucked into a soul gem, thus avoiding teh bargain entirely.

Some speculate, including myself, that the relative sizes of the various Aedra are determined by their physical structures as planets. Thus there is some ascending and descending order of power amongst the et'Ada. Clavicus vile is seen as one of the weakest Daedra, thus whoever is stronger of the Daedra would likely reap the soul. People speculate that arguably Nocturna has the larger following, thus she'd have the most power and strongest 'claim' to the soul in question. It's also probably presupposed that if you're in their domain that they'd have claim IE, went into a plane of Oblivion. Beyond that, no official lore statement I can find.

I should note that the dragonborn thing -might- have some effect, but given that all the previous dragonborns of the septim dynasty were soul trapped in the Amulet of Kings it seems they aren't expressly immune to anything."

So there you have it. It's all just speculation for now. No actual official lore has been released about this.