A problem like every other 17 year old has these days... :-( help me

[Annoying Turd]

Thanks in advance.

I've had a crush on a girl for 3 years, but she hates me and can't stand me :-(

I think she's cool though and I want to be her friend. It's debilitating how she won't allow that, though.

Is she worth it? What do I do? I'm just an inexperienced 17 year old guy... that's my other problem.

I'm so inexperienced :-( can anyone help with that too?

 

[Motiv_]

My advice, cold as it is.

Drop it. Drop her. If she doesn't want or appreciate you, you're just going to end up hurting yourself more and more and you'll end up bitter and cynical. Best to cut the ties while you still have your dignity.

 

[Annoying Turd]

I haven't met a lot of girls, but she's the coolest girl I have ever met in my life.
She's the sweetest girl i've ever met, and i'm flabbergasted at why she hates me :-(

Must be because I'm a horrible guy. I've fucked up real badly if i've turned a pretty girl who approached me and sat with me for an hour into someone who views me with contempt. Must be why I have virtually 0 friends while she never feels lonely, with a big family, a hot boyfriend and plenty more buddies.

and all i can do is make my heart bleed for her. im so lame :-(

 

[Phasmal]

If this girl honestly hates you and cant stand you, continually trying to win her over is just not going to work, it'd be easy to dismiss her as being a b*tch, but in all honesty she is probably just not into you and you cant make her like you.

I'm sure you dont want to be with someone who doesnt like you, what you should do now is honestly just forget her. It seems hard, but you should try and distract yourself from thinking about her and focus on yourself.

 

[Annoying Turd]

If this girl honestly hates you and cant stand you, continually trying to win her over is just not going to work, it'd be easy to dismiss her as being a b*tch, but in all honesty she is probably just not into you and you cant make her like you.

I'm sure you dont want to be with someone who doesnt like you, what you should do now is honestly just forget her. It seems hard, but you should try and distract yourself from thinking about her and focus on yourself.

I was hoping to do exactly that.

Yet, whenever I look at myself, I see a douche whose touch turns things to shit. Every relationship I've been in ended with a girl i've upset for some reason.

I'm an annoying turd and I hate being that.

 

[Annoying Turd]

My advice, cold as it is.

Drop it. Drop her. If she doesn't want or appreciate you, you're just going to end up hurting yourself more and more and you'll end up bitter and cynical. Best to cut the ties while you still have your dignity.

I've already lost all my dignity. I don't know if I'm bitter or cynical, though.

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

 

[burningdragoon]

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

 

[Annoying Turd]

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

I don't have anything else to do.

 

[burningdragoon]

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

I don't have anything else to do.

Well... that's a terrible attitude to have. Find something.

 

[Svenparty]

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

I don't have anything else to do.

If she hates you then you have no choice but to find someone else. You will soon find out that women are easily replaceable(Joke)

Actually since nothing has happened your crush is just "the idea of it" and that is a big part of why you are attracted to her. Your young and luckily haven't gotten into a serious relationship and can go discover girls in nightclubs and by extension meet other girls. I have been through the friend zone thing and some girls will never give you the affection in return and to an extent use you for their purposes.

 

[Annoying Turd]

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

I don't have anything else to do.

Well... that's a terrible attitude to have. Find something.

I suck at everything I try to do. I've been rejected to jobs and even to volunteer.

I've tried my best to cut my ties with her and stop thinking about her, but not a single hour in my life has gone by without me thinking about her. :-(

Are you just... sitting around thinking about her? Go out and do things to take your mind of her. Something that requires a lot of attention in the first place.

I don't have anything else to do.

If she hates you then you have no choice but to find someone else. You will soon find out that women are easily replaceable(Joke)

Actually since nothing has happened your crush is just "the idea of it" and that is a big part of why you are attracted to her. Your young and luckily haven't gotten into a serious relationship and can go discover girls in nightclubs and by extension meet other girls. I have been through the friend zone thing and some girls will never give you the affection in return and to an extent use you for their purposes.

No nightclubs where I live, and I'm too shy to randomly approach girls. I've nowhere to meet girls my age.

 

[Svenparty]

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I don't have anything else to do.[/quote]


No nightclubs where I live, and I'm too shy to randomly approach girls. I've nowhere to meet girls my age.[/quote]

Well then this should be your priority until you find somewhere: You say you "suck at everything" this isn't an attitude that will get you anywhere because it's not constructive. You need somewhere to go and a goal and the rest will follow. If you get a job there is a good chance you will meet girls: Same if you enter an academic environment. As much as it happens in films and books the majority of people DO NOT approach random strangers and ask them out. They actually meet people through their daily routine.

 

[Annoying Turd]

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I don't have anything else to do.

No nightclubs where I live, and I'm too shy to randomly approach girls. I've nowhere to meet girls my age.

Well then this should be your priority until you find somewhere: You say you "suck at everything" this isn't an attitude that will get you anywhere because it's not constructive. You need somewhere to go and a goal and the rest will follow. If you get a job there is a good chance you will meet girls: Same if you enter an academic environment. As much as it happens in films and books the majority of people DO NOT approach random strangers and ask them out. They actually meet people through their daily routine.

I don't have anywhere to go to, maybe except for the gym because I love working out.

Anywhere else I can go to? What goals can a 17 year old inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser like me have?

 

[Alien Mole]

I don't have anywhere to go to, maybe except for the gym because I love working out.

Anywhere else I can go to? What goals can a 17 year old inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser like me have?

Gym. Gym is good. Go completely apeshit bananas, bulk up or slim down (whichever you're trying to do) and get your confidence on. Find something else that you enjoy and/or are good at(often corellated) and go do it until you get bored of it, then find something else.

Maybe try some other sports. Meet people there. See what they like to do in their free time and try that. Then see what opportunities those bring with them and try them. Bond. Broaden your horizon and I'm sure you'll be able to find a bunch of things that you're passionate and confident about, and meet a lot of interesting people along the way.

It really does all come down to confidence, so stop pitying yourself and start believing in yourself. Stop calling yourself an 'inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser' - systematically fix every part of that phrase until you can look in the mirror and fail to restrain yourself from yelling out 'Fuck yeah!'

Basically, if you don't like yourself, other people won't like you either. So stop hating yourself and start loving yourself (well, not in that sense but who am I to stop you?) and if you find yourself wanting to ask me 'how,' 'why' or any variation thereupon, don't. Just do it!

If all else fails, watch/read Yes Man and just do that for about a month. If you've got nothing to do, then you've got plenty of time to force yourself to commit to a metric crapton of things, and hence positive influences, which lead to you feeling good about yourself and other people feeling good about you and girlfriend and happiness. Trust me, I've been there myself. Got me out of a bad spiral, so I know it works.

Bottom line: love yourself, because if you don't the world isn't going to do it for you. But luckily, the reverse applies as well so get crackin'.

I leave you with this inspirational video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI

I don't know how to embed.

 

[Svenparty]

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I don't have anything else to do.

No nightclubs where I live, and I'm too shy to randomly approach girls. I've nowhere to meet girls my age.

Well then this should be your priority until you find somewhere: You say you "suck at everything" this isn't an attitude that will get you anywhere because it's not constructive. You need somewhere to go and a goal and the rest will follow. If you get a job there is a good chance you will meet girls: Same if you enter an academic environment. As much as it happens in films and books the majority of people DO NOT approach random strangers and ask them out. They actually meet people through their daily routine.

I don't have anywhere to go to, maybe except for the gym because I love working out.

Anywhere else I can go to? What goals can a 17 year old inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser like me have?

Every post sums up your problem that you even comment on: You need self confidence and at least by starting this thread you have discovered you could go to the gym. Many 17 year olds are inexperienced and some of the ones who aren't are NOT good people. Believe me sometimes I wish I could take a few steps back and reenter the world of innocence.

But the gym (unless it's male only) seems a decent place to meet someone. It shows you care about your body and you can meet like minded people.

 

[Annoying Turd]

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I don't have anything else to do.

No nightclubs where I live, and I'm too shy to randomly approach girls. I've nowhere to meet girls my age.

Well then this should be your priority until you find somewhere: You say you "suck at everything" this isn't an attitude that will get you anywhere because it's not constructive. You need somewhere to go and a goal and the rest will follow. If you get a job there is a good chance you will meet girls: Same if you enter an academic environment. As much as it happens in films and books the majority of people DO NOT approach random strangers and ask them out. They actually meet people through their daily routine.

I don't have anywhere to go to, maybe except for the gym because I love working out.

Anywhere else I can go to? What goals can a 17 year old inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser like me have?

Every post sums up your problem that you even comment on: You need self confidence and at least by starting this thread you have discovered you could go to the gym. Many 17 year olds are inexperienced and some of the ones who aren't are NOT good people. Believe me sometimes I wish I could take a few steps back and reenter the world of innocence.

But the gym (unless it's male only) seems a decent place to meet someone. It shows you care about your body and you can meet like minded people.

Gym is male only :-(

Why is inexperience a good thing? People won't hire an inexperienced person.

I don't have anywhere to go to, maybe except for the gym because I love working out.

Anywhere else I can go to? What goals can a 17 year old inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser like me have?

Gym. Gym is good. Go completely apeshit bananas, bulk up or slim down (whichever you're trying to do) and get your confidence on. Find something else that you enjoy and/or are good at(often corellated) and go do it until you get bored of it, then find something else.

Maybe try some other sports. Meet people there. See what they like to do in their free time and try that. Then see what opportunities those bring with them and try them. Bond. Broaden your horizon and I'm sure you'll be able to find a bunch of things that you're passionate and confident about, and meet a lot of interesting people along the way.

It really does all come down to confidence, so stop pitying yourself and start believing in yourself. Stop calling yourself an 'inexperienced self deprecating psychotic douchebag reject loser' - systematically fix every part of that phrase until you can look in the mirror and fail to restrain yourself from yelling out 'Fuck yeah!'

Basically, if you don't like yourself, other people won't like you either. So stop hating yourself and start loving yourself (well, not in that sense but who am I to stop you?) and if you find yourself wanting to ask me 'how,' 'why' or any variation thereupon, don't. Just do it!

If all else fails, watch/read Yes Man and just do that for about a month. If you've got nothing to do, then you've got plenty of time to force yourself to commit to a metric crapton of things, and hence positive influences, which lead to you feeling good about yourself and other people feeling good about you and girlfriend and happiness. Trust me, I've been there myself. Got me out of a bad spiral, so I know it works.

Bottom line: love yourself, because if you don't the world isn't going to do it for you. But luckily, the reverse applies as well so get crackin'.

I leave you with this inspirational video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI

I don't know how to embed.

I've tried all sports out there (except ice sports).

Football => ball to the head
Baseball => I can't swing a bat properly
Shooting => I'm the worst marksman in the planet I can't use a rifle to effectively shoot a house lizard on a wall 50 yards away
Swimming => I get weird sea sickness at night where I feel like I'm vacillating in bed.
Gymnastics => broken bones
Wrestling => hairline fractures
Starcraft => kekekeke
Motorcycle riding => I can't afford a sportsbike and I might die

Working out and horse riding is all I have, so which hobby is most likely to get me girls?

What kind of hobbies would allow me to meet girls?

 

[burningdragoon]

I've tried all sports out there (except ice sports).

Football => ball to the head
Baseball => I can't swing a bat properly
Shooting => I'm the worst marksman in the planet I can't use a rifle to effectively shoot a house lizard on a wall 50 yards away
Swimming => I get weird sea sickness at night where I feel like I'm vacillating in bed.
Gymnastics => broken bones
Wrestling => hairline fractures
Starcraft => kekekeke
Motorcycle riding => I can't afford a sportsbike and I might die

Working out and horse riding is all I have, so which hobby is most likely to get me girls?

What kind of hobbies would allow me to meet girls?

Seriously dude. Every response you give basically says "but I suck". That is a huge factor to the problem in the first place. Confidence confidence confidence.

Okay, another little issue you have here is What kind of hobbies would allow me to meet girls?
If that's all you are after, you likely won't enjoy yourself as much, meaning you'll be less fun, meaning girls are going to be less likely to be interested in you. And that's just in terms of you "goal." It's not a healthy way to pick a hobby. If you pick something you like that you'll enjoy and if that involves other people than that's icing on the cake.

What do you like other than beating yourself up?

Also, horse riding is not a bad idea.

 

[Alien Mole]

What do you like other than beating yourself up?

Also, horse riding is not a bad idea.

Above poster has the right of it in my opinion. Also, OP: the 'do other sports' part was the least important part of my post. Pay attention to the rest of it too!

 

[lettucethesallad]

Well the self pity isn't exactly a turn-on. You're 17, saying you've failed at everything and a loser won't score you any points. If you've had no luck with this girl while trying _years_, then step away. What do you like? What would you like to do with your time? And I'm not talking _with_ anyone either, have stuff to do that's fun on your own.

The thing is, you can smell desperation, and it's not a selling point. Interests and hobbies will hopefully make you happier, and less likely to actively look for a girl because frankly - it's not that important at that age. You should just be having fun. Lighten up.