A problem with elitist nerds

[Dimensional Vortex]

Am I allowed to be elitist because I'm a LaVeyan Satanist and my religion demands it?

Okay not to be a dick, but seriously I have seen you comment on a number of forums and you frequently bring up your religion. KNOCK IT OFF! If you're a satanist fine, I really couldn't care, but when you start yelling it out left right and center it starts to really piss me off.
I'm sorry if you think this is racist (even though it's not) but you wouldn't like it if Christians started coming on this site and every time they posted a comment they related it back to Jesus or God, that's all I have to say about this now, but perhaps you should watch what you comment.

OT: Yea I have met people like that, and although the ones in particular don't say popular games are crap. They are more inclined to worship 2-3 popular games and then either compare every other game mentioned to the ones they love and then call the game crap, or relate every game back to their beloved ones. A real life example of this was in grade 6, a supposed gamer thought Call of Duty and more big titles were shit because they weren't Halo. This person couldn't even compare the two to each other, he would compare the bad parts of Call of Duty to the good parts of Halo and make out like there was this massive contrast. Another example was when i had finished all my work in school (nearing the end of the year, so not much left to do) and we were given free time, I like many other went on my laptop. Whilst on my laptop I showed my friend a game that had captured my fancy, Amnesia: the dark decent, I showed him an interesting video where a monster chased a guy down a dark hall and it was quite freaky. There were 3 other people watching behind me who had a history for loving Assassins Creed and Halo Reach. When these 3 had finished watching they immediately talked about Assassins Creed and related the graphics and game play in the video to Assassins Creed (The graphics were bad because I switched the graphics thing on you tube to 240, due to slow internet that day.)

Thats all I have to say for now, thanks for reading.

 

[blankedboy]

Am I allowed to be elitist because I'm a LaVeyan Satanist and my religion demands it?

Okay not to be a dick, but seriously I have seen you comment on a number of forums and you frequently bring up your religion. KNOCK IT OFF! If you're a satanist fine, I really couldn't care, but when you start yelling it out left right and center it starts to really piss me off.
I'm sorry if you think this is racist (even though it's not) but you wouldn't like it if Christians started coming on this site and every time they posted a comment they related it back to Jesus or God, that's all I have to say about this now, but perhaps you should watch what you comment.

Really? I've only brought it up 4 times... although, I suppose all of those were in the last couple weeks.

(4000 posts woooooooo)

 

[Kabutos]

it's funny because the majority of people on the escapist, and most likely in this thread are elitist nerds.

You summed up what I was thinking perfectly.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I've been running into these people more and more and I want to punch them in the face. Especially when they ruin movies for me because they keep huffing and puffing during the whole damn thing. >_>

(I'm talking to you dickhole in Harry Potter who said the movie wasn't smart enough and you kept sighing loudly in my ear. If you didn't want to see the movie, DON'T go see it.

Well if you don't like a certain group of people you should probably stay away from them, which is really not hard with nerds as they tend to keep to themselvs.

As for the movie issue, simply start off with threats, and if they don't work dispense some swift discipline!
People seem to forget they aren't alone just because the lights turned off, bringing them down to reality usually works well.

 

[Tharwen]

Meh. I play what I like to play, and I have opinions on what I think are bad games. If someone plays those games a lot, I'll try to introduce them to other ones.

I have a friend who is one of the biggest Modern Warfare nerds you could ever meet, but he doesn't game on much else, and I don't try to make him (much).

Am I allowed to be elitist because I'm a LaVeyan Satanist and my religion demands it?

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: The power of christ compels you! The power of christ compels you! *splashes with holy water*

Short answer: What the hell does that mean?

Long answer: [Insert over-publicised court case here]

 

[ShadowKatt]

Meh. I play what I like to play, and I have opinions on what I think are bad games. If someone plays those games a lot, I'll try to introduce them to other ones.

I have a friend who is one of the biggest Modern Warfare nerds you could ever meet, but he doesn't game on much else, and I don't try to make him (much).

Am I allowed to be elitist because I'm a LaVeyan Satanist and my religion demands it?

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: The power of christ compels you! The power of christ compels you! *splashes with holy water*

Short answer: What the hell does that mean?

Long answer: [Insert over-publicised court case here]

Hopefully he'll come back and correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't studied Laveyan Satanism, only Satanism in general. But the general gist of Satanism is while Christianity teaches you to worship and put your faith in God and Christ by doing for others and living a humble, mostly self-less life, Satanism encourages you to celebrate yourself, sometimes even at the expense of others. It encourages pride, gluttony, lust, wrath against those that have wronged you, etc, because these are things that embody Satan and thus pay tribute.

And since, Elitism is basicly just pride, well, there you go.

 

[imperialreign]

I had seen this ages ago - and I think it diretly relates to this topic . . . enjoy.


5 STAGES OF INDUSTRIAL ELITISM

I. Phase one.

- Discard all clothes your parents bought you at old navy, savers,
ross, etc.
- Discard your entire record collection. This is non-negotiable.
- Purchase albums by these bands:

Front line Assembly
16 Volt
Ministry
My life with the thrill kill kult
Pig
Razed in black
Nine Inch Nails

- Purchase a dog collar and several KMFDM shirts (even though they all
look alike, uniformity is industrial because it's a social
commentary... or something).
- Purchase a trenchcoat. Of course it has to be black. This is
non-negotiable.
- If you are female, purple streaks in your hair make you the center
of attention.
- Also go for the magnetic no-holes piercings and black eyeliner.
- When people ask who your favorite bands are, always answer something
along the lines of "oh you probably never heard of them"
- Dye your hair something dark and provocative.
- Start posting to the kmfdmdogma.com forum
- Start making music in Fruityloops. whip up a nifty name like
"Gravitron" or "Destructive militaristic maschinery" or
"Destructopsycho" and set up an mp3.com account. Make sure to tell
everyone about your band. Remember, the more people who download your
music, the bigger your mp3.com check will be.
- Change your AOL screen name to "smothered23hope". If you are female,
this may be replaced by anything which includes the words "pixie",
"faerie", "doll", "grrrl" or any combination thereof.



II. Phase two.

- Realize that all the bands you liked two months ago are not
industrial because they use guitars.
- You will pretend you were never interested in the aforementioned
bands, but in fact you still listen to your limited edition "burnout
at the hydrogen bar" lp constantly.
- Purchase CDs by the following 'underground' bands:

Wumpscut
Covenant
Velvet Acid Christ
Din_Fiv
Leaether Strip
VNV Nation
Suicide Commando
Icon of Coil
Wolfsheim

- you make the mistake of ordering them from isolation tank. Wait a
month for your shit to arrive. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200
dollars.
- When people ask who your favorite bands are, always answer something
along the lines of "oh you probably never heard of them"
- Replace those aging Airwalk sneakers with a pair of knee high army
boots.
- Buy a pair of vinyl pants and bondage bracelets/club gear.
- Buy a german army vest at the local surplus. - remember that your
shwag is a metaphor of some sort (for the uniformity of society and
man becoming a machine... or
something) so dress to impress.
- Dye your hair black and shave part of it. Do something "creative"
with the rest. If you are female, decorate the rest with multi-colored
extensions.
- Buy a roland groovebox and make "dark dance music with an edge."
Pretend like this hasn't been done before.
- Go to your local industrial/goth club and hang out with your group
of friends. Share fashion tips. Talk about "the
goth/industrial/darkwave scene" and how much it means to you to go to
these clubs to support "the scene".
- Pretend there is actually a "scene"
- Change your AOL screen name to "DekonstrvktedMekanizm23" or
something in german.



III. Phase three.

- Realize that the bands from Phase Two are utter crap.
- beg the club djs in desperation for reccomendations to save you from
your stale, repetitive record collection consisting of angsty techno
and ESL lyrics.
- Upon their reccomendations, hurry to your favorite internet
mailorder site and check the following to "add to your cart"

Gridlock
Converter
PAL
Panacea
Synapscape
Mlada Fronta
NKVD
Hypnoskull

- you make the mistake of ordering from middle pillar. wait a month
and a half for your shit to arrive. do not pass go. do not collect 200
dollars.
- When people ask who your favorite bands are, always answer something
along the lines of "oh you probably never heard of them"
- Start posting to rec.music.industrial
- Change your AOL screen name to something cryptic or an acronym. For
example "stubborncivility" or "E269GO__01V"
- get a livejournal.
- Get a Boss or DOD distortion pedal for your roland groovebox. claim
that you are "experimental" Pretend like this hasn't been done before.
- start a side project, to allow more "freedom"
- Berate everyone for not having such obscure musical tastes as you.
- Sell your club gear to the salvation army. Keep your boots and army
pants.
- Start wearing black turtlenecks.
- shave your head...yes, like mr. clean
- Keep going to the goth/industrial clubs, but only to make fun of
everyone else.
- Even though you can't beatmatch, convince the club owners to give
you a weekly 1 hour spot as "guest dj". Make up a silly dj name in the
vein of your aol screen name (bonus points if your screen name is your
dj name).
- repeatedly post your playlists to internet forums. Act like people
actually care that you play the same shit over and over.
- Be very self righteous about your dj spot. Remember, you're helping
"the scene"
- Keep this dj gig until the club owner finds out that people really
don't like paying a cover charge to dance to what sounds like a
jackhammer looped for ten minutes.
- ***** to RMI about how the club owner "censored" your dj spot.



IV. Phase four:

- You realize "the scene" is nothing more than fashion victims paying
for watered down drinks and overpayed europeans singing along to
prerecorded material.
- declare that you were never really part of the scene, because you
didn't fit in with the uniformity and the close minded attitude.
- Immediately discredit anyone who mentions "industrial"
- Determine that industrial music never existed outside the frame of
throbbing gristle's industrial records.
- Thus, you determine industrial is dead
- Become "intellectual"
- Carry obscure and/or philosophical texts such as Nietzche or
Witkiewicz. Pretend like you read them.
- Determine that god is dead. Pretend like this hasn't been said
before.
- Openly discuss the "mad destructive genius" of Mein Kampf.
- Claim you are not a nazi.
- Collect nazi imagery.
- Determine that hitler is dead
- Become a 'photographer' or "artiste". Use lots of adobe effects.
- Make 'collages' of old war pictures. Badly. On your PC, of course.
Pretend like this hasn't been done before.
- Talk about going to 'art school' when referring to your community
college night classes.
- Buy music by these bands:

genocide organ
mental destruction
grey wolves
szkieve
whitehouse

- in fact, buy anything from anyone who sounds remotely european and
whose releases are obscenely overpriced.
- When people ask who your favorite bands are, always answer something
along the lines of "oh you probably never heard of them"
- Delete your AOL profile.
- Sell your Roland groovebox. Keep the distortion pedal.



V. Phase five:

- Revelation: power electronics has a horrible price to quality ratio
and nazi imagery doesn't get you laid.
- Become one of the following:

A: Musician

- Some European guy on your buddy list just started an internet label
and wants to release your post apocalyptic rhythmic micronoise made
entirely out of milli vanilli samples.
- Everyone pretends this hasn't been done before.
- You are hailed as a "deconstructive, social commentative genius" by
all the phase four suckers
- Your buddy's label goes out of business and you are stuck with 150
copies of specially colored one sided 7" priced at 12.99 a piece. All
your friends hate your music.

B: Label manager

- You still believe in a "scene" and you try your hardest to "keep it
alive"
- Find a gimmick (such as only releasing 10" vinyl or hand painted
mini-cds) and only release your friends' projects.
- Pretend to be "open to other genres" but one would be hard pressed
to tell the difference between all your releases.
- Overprice everything. This is non-negotiable.
- Go out of business after three releases due to lack of distro and
the fact that no one actually enjoys the phase four music, it just
seems like a good idea at the time.

C: pretentious art student

- keep making art. even your parents hate it.
- only listen to wanky academic music which experiments in
"psychoacoustics" or "microwave manipulation" because traditional
music is "boring"
- start a pretentious artsy, incomprehensible website.
- model it after hell.com. pretend like you've never heard of hell.com
- Impress people with your stories of travelling to Europe, when in
fact you've never left Wisconsin.

D: A washed up loser with no life skills and no social value-

-This is your most likely route.

Follow this well-balanced recipe for success, and one day you too can
be an industrial elitist!!

 

[Nouw]

Can someone give me some examples of elitist nerds and the latter? I can't make a good response without even more hard facts and evidence.

 

[Not-here-anymore]

What about the popular pretty boy in your school? Well most likely he does something you'd consider nerdy. Maybe he can work photoshop in ways you can't imagine, maybe he stays up all night doing speed runs on Mario Bros.

No, all they can do is ***** and live in a little world of false importance and value.

That's a little harsh - being popular/attractive doesn't automatically make you a whiny douche.
Hell, I'm popular (and debateably attractive), and don't spend that much time bitching about things.

Sure, in many cases the supposedly popular/cool folk are unbearably vapid; they insist on keeping up with pop culture just so they're known to have kept up with it. But that's not always the case. Ignore the 'cool crowd' and look at that one guy/girl that everybody likes. That's real popularity, and they're presumably not a whiny egocentric dick, or people wouldn't like them.

 

[sageoftruth]

So I am not a nerd because I made JV soccer as a freshman? Even though I've read most of the Star Wars EU and can kinda be a prick about Star Wars facts? (Admiral Ackbar is dead. So is Chewie). No I'm a nerd. I'm also an elitist. I sure as hell don't hang around with stupid people. (Mild but still its elitism) But you're saying Elitist Nerds as one noun right? In that case those ones are pricks. But they're more prick than elitist or nerd. They're like the old gaurd, stuck in thier time as the world evolves

Kind of creepy, considering all the old people who suddenly become that way. So I guess 80% of us are growing up to be elitist nerds.

 

[sageoftruth]

I'd rather sit in a room with a Justin Beiber fan who looks like Miley Cirus holding a hand bag with Lady GaGa's face on it than listen to an elitist nerd.

Now that I have you hooked, let me continue.

What is a nerd? By definition, a nerd is one who avidly pursues intellectual activities.

Now obviously the definition of nerd has changed over the years. Today, anyone and everyone can be a nerd. My dad stayed up all night playing Wii bowling just so he could score 300 points. What did I say to him when I heard him brag about his bowling score? "Dad, you're such a nerd!"

You can easily say anyone is a nerd nowadays.
What about the popular pretty boy in your school? Well most likely he does something you'd consider nerdy. Maybe he can work photoshop in ways you can't imagine, maybe he stays up all night doing speed runs on Mario Bros. Unless you get to know these people, you'll never know if they're a closet nerd or an open nerd.

Now, what's an elitist nerd?
An elitist nerd is one who has a "holier than thou" attitude towards almost everything. This nerd is the one you can't take to the movies because "mainstream stuff is shit", this is the person who thinks they're unpopular because they were "too busy studying/working" to care about that stuff, this is the person who hates any game that becomes popular because it's "not hardcore enough anymore".
In short, the elitist nerd is one who hates anything popular and most likely not popular in school because they didn't try to assert themselves

I hate to be buzzkillington, but hating everything doesn't make you cool, it kind of makes you a douche. I've been running into these people more and more and I want to punch them in the face. Especially when they ruin movies for me because they keep huffing and puffing during the whole damn thing. >_>

(I'm talking to you dickhole in Harry Potter who said the movie wasn't smart enough and you kept sighing loudly in my ear. If you didn't want to see the movie, DON'T go see it.

And this goes out to you too guy who laughed at me for purchasing Halo:Reach and saying "You need to learn how to play real games".)

Any questions, comments, concerns?

First it's connotation, and if it is a definition it's the historical definition. Anyways yes your right they are quite annoying and constantly argue that everything is wrong but what can you do, prove them wrong? Good luck, cause I've tried and failed.

The best thing you can do is convince them that being wrong isn't always so bad. How to do that is beyond me though. Having been there before, I believe that fear of being wrong is one of the driving forces behind this kind of behavior.

 

[Odegauger]

I find that people who complain about elitist nerds are both more common, and far more annoying than elitist nerds.

 

[Leemaster777]

Elitists are just annoying in general, regardless of their nerdiness.

 

[zombiesinc]

Now, what's an elitist nerd?
An elitist nerd is one who has a "holier than thou" attitude towards almost everything. This nerd is the one you can't take to the movies because "mainstream stuff is shit", this is the person who thinks they're unpopular because they were "too busy studying/working" to care about that stuff, this is the person who hates any game that becomes popular because it's "not hardcore enough anymore".
In short, the elitist nerd is one who hates anything popular and most likely not popular in school because they didn't try to assert themselves

I fully agree.

I'm tired of listening to people complain about something mainstream, as if they don't have a choice what they watch, listen to, or take part in. I'm even more tired of people saying something isn't good or talented enough simply because it's mainstream.

I can understand that a lot of people dislike certain things that happen to be mainstream, but I think some people are getting confused between something they dislike, and something that simply has no talent behind it. What's worse is when they have to stand by that opinion as if it's fact, and they'll completely dismiss anything else.

I don't even want to get started on this thought of "I like it, and if you don't, you're a lesser person."

Granted, this isn't the case for everyone, but there are a growing number of people who think and voice these thoughts.

 

[Zaik]

elitist anything = troll it for lulz. Even IRL. Especially IRL.


Seriously. Don't just let them get away with annoying you by existing all over the place like the self entitled pricks they are. Say something totally obviously stupid just to make them RAGE.

You can generally troll movie nerds by telling them that Boondock Saints was stupid and that Pulp Fiction was a disorganized bunch of brain diarrhea. Bonus points for mentioning that you really liked one of Uwe Boll's movies.

As for video game nerds, just tell them that halo was the first FPS game ever. You don't need anything else, but if you want to have them put down for rabies tell them FF7 and all the ones before it sucked and that X-2 was the best in the series. Point out that the larger numbers going on in the fights of the newer ones make them better than the older ones. Also stay away from FF13 because you only have a 50/50 chance of success with it and if they agree with you it'll calm them down some.

 

[Shraggler]

I don't know what's going on.

Don't you just call these people on their BS or ignore them?

The vast majority of people described by the OP exist solely on the Internet.

If your life is plagued by people like this you could play games with them: bait them into contradicting themselves, feed them misinformation on game releases or "hidden story-lines" or "easter eggs" (on a side note, should you know anyone intrigued by "easter eggs", it's time to surround yourself with people older than 10), claim to know a girl is interested in them and set them up with a violent, male prostitute, etc. Use your imagination.

 

[Zhukov]

Elitist nerds, however, seem to believe that if you were popular and played sports then you're not a true nerd. It seems as though the elitist nerd praises the outcasts and degrades the people who try to cast the image of "the nerd" in a positive light. This bothers me.

Ohhh... now I see what you mean.

Pop psychology... go!

People don't like having their identities "compromised" by newcomers. So they try and alter the identity to keep out said newcomers. Once upon a time nerds played video games. But now loads of people play video games. So now to be a "true nerd" you have to play obscure indie titles because mainstream games are just crap for the mindless masses of sheeple.

Yeah... it's pretty stupid.

However, I suspect that you could find similar trends within just about any social catagory. Imagine if, say, opera were suddenly to become extremely popular. I bet you would get the original opera fans claiming that all the newcomers don't appreciate "true opera" and so on and so forth.