A public beating... against a child

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shadyh8er

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To any escapists who already know of this, what the hell happened here?

Hmmm. I'm reminded of reading on a random trivia thingy that it's illegal in China to save someone from drowning because it interferes with that person's fate. Could be a connection perhaps?
 

maxmanrules

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This is fucking horrific. The worst part is when the camera catches some look of glee on the face of a chinese woman about halfway through. This is highly reminiscent of that video that was on here a while back of that child that got run over by two vans and ignored by several people. I don't think this is a racist thing, I just think that the people in that are horrible despicable wankers.
This also doesn't seem to have anything to do with the Bystanders Effect, as the people around seem to be enjoying it, goddamn them.
 

Ickorus

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I saw this a while back, apparently the child was a thief, I don't think that lets them off for what they did to him though; they broke his wrist I believe.
 

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Fluffythepoo said:
Its cool if 38 people watch a chick get stabbed repeatedly over 15 minutes while calling for help in New York City, but god help us if the chinese make a kid have a bad day, i mean that kid must have had a terrible story to tell at work the next morning
who ever said that was "cool"?!?
 
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The7Sins said:
Well the kid supposedly was a thief. If so IMO they did not beat him enough. They should have continued to knocked out or just go the Vegas route and cut off one of his hands. Basically scar him for life and make him remember to never ever ever steal.
Are you sure that's all that happens when you physically "educate" a child though? Maybe he wouldn't steal again(and I mean "maybe"), but it's pretty fucking dumb to think that the effects end there.

I don't think children can handle beatings, period. I also think there's something perverse about adults that are willing to dole out beatings to children.
 

SilentCom

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emeraldrafael said:
the chinese are more... old school, than countries like the US and UK.

Honestly I've never been against hitting your kid in public as punishment. I know my parental figures werent, and quite frankly i've seen the ***** premadonnas that dont get a nice little swat in the head and how they act when they're grown and I couldnt stand if my kid acted that way.
I agree, I think there is a culture clash there.

It may not have anything to do with racism. The culture there is different. Think about it, if the kid was turned in to the police in a communist country instead of utterly humiliated, then the kid might be stuck in a prison forever or something. Sure, what they did wasn't right, but frankly they weren't hitting the kid hard and probably found it funny that he was crying. Yes this is kind of sick to many of us but frankly they could have likely view the kid as a spoiled cry baby whom stole and deserves to be humiliated. Also, it isn't uncommon in many asian cultures that hitting occurs to "teach" kids a lesson.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
the chinese are more... old school, than countries like the US and UK.

Honestly I've never been against hitting your kid in public as punishment. I know my parental figures werent, and quite frankly i've seen the ***** premadonnas that dont get a nice little swat in the head and how they act when they're grown and I couldnt stand if my kid acted that way.
I agree but only to an extent, i know i got a smack if i was bad as a child but to go that far is ridiculous. What i want to know is where are his mother/father or caretaker....
 

cswurt

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Welcome to the world, everyone, welcome to the world.

It's videos like these that remind us what beasts we really are.
We like to think we're somehow seperate from nature and better than the so called 'lesser' forms of life on this planet, but it just is not true.

In most ways, animals are even better than humans.

"You don't see chickens running around in drug gangs, do you? No, you don't see a chicken strapping some guy to a chair and hooking up his nuts to a car battery do you? When's the last chicken you heard about came home from work and beat the shit out of his hen? Doesn't happen. Because chickens are decent people!"

Oh well. This is what goes on around the world. The sooner we face it, the better off we'll all be.
 

Dethenger

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Berithil said:
Well, sadly I'm not surprised. There were stories of a girl getting gangraped and people just stood and watched. I beloved there is a law that states that the more people who are around when something bad happens, the less likely someone will help. Can't remember what the name was
Captain trivia!

It's called the Bystander Effect [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect], and it's basically what you said. If something's happening and there are other people around to witness it, you're less inclined to take action because you think that another person will take care of it, and, being social creatures by habit, if nobody helps, we figure it's not a situation that requires helping.

I myself remember once a woman fell down the stairs, dropping a stack of papers as she did, in front of me (and of course other people). She was either mid-thirties or early forties, certainly not all that physically capable, and looked to be distressed.
I was literally thinking about the Bystander Effect as this happened. I was completely aware what was going on, I knew that I should act, but I didn't. Luckily, my friend Mat did, and the day went on.

Another time, and I wasn't there to witness this, but my friends Mat and Steven were hanging out and, as a joke, Mat pretended to fall in a parking lot (certainly, other people were there) and began to wail melodramatically, even disguising his laughter as moans of pain, crying and whatnot. Other people noticed, but to my knowledge, not one of them offered a helping hand. It's funny for me to think about (knowing Mat and just imagining what kinds of noises and facial expressions he'd make), but I wonder, what if he actually had been hurt, and nobody did anything?

Back on this specific topic, it's of course terrible. We all feel indignant that nobody lifted a finger, but that's just how it is. I like to think that, armed with this knowledge, in a real emergency, I'll be more willing to act. But who knows? It might turn out just like that woman who fell down the stairs.
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
Yeah but, in order for that theory to apply it has to be something minor, like someone getting their bag stolen off them; or there has to be a level of ambiguity, as in "Is that homeless guy seriously hurt or is he just sleeping?" Not when some poor kid is getting the shit ripped out of them in the middle of the street. I can almost see the mentality of not intervening for fear of getting hurt yourself, but to not even call the police? To just stand by and watch like its a sport or something? That has no excuse.
It's a well documented mentality called the Bystander Effect. The more people that are present to witness something like this, the less they, as an individual, care about the event in question. The basics of the psychology behind it is that we assume someone else will take care of it and so we don't get involved. It's an evolved trait that developed out of the sense of self-preservation/selfishness that pervades most of the more primal human desires. Essentially, "This is wrong, but I'm not involved, and there's some other guy over there who can take care of it".
 

Agayek

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Curse you escapist and your double posting ways! I only hit the button once too.

Ah well. Slightly less off topic: Crazy and depressing news is crazy and depressing. More at 11.
 
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The7Sins said:
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The7Sins said:
Well the kid supposedly was a thief. If so IMO they did not beat him enough. They should have continued to knocked out or just go the Vegas route and cut off one of his hands. Basically scar him for life and make him remember to never ever ever steal.
Are you sure that's all that happens when you physically "educate" a child though? Maybe he wouldn't steal again(and I mean "maybe"), but it's pretty fucking dumb to think that the effects end there.

I don't think children can handle beatings, period. I also think there's something perverse about adults that are willing to dole out beatings to children.
I would not care what the extra side effects would be. If it caused him to not steal again then it was for the good. Being emotionally or physically scarred for life is merely part of the consequences the punishment for theft would bring.
If I'm doing something, I like to aim for an optimal outcome...that's just me.

The idea that hitting kids can fuck them up, isn't exactly wacky and unsubstantiated. You're not only warping them in abstract and intangible ways, you're also teaching them that hitting is how issues are resolved.

When the kid frustrates you and you snap and decide that smacking the undeveloped(mentally and physically)person is the way to go, your body gives you a nice chemical reward for getting rid of that aggression. That reward makes you more likely to be aggressive the next time something ticks you off...slippery slope from there.

It really is in societies best interests to keep the aggression contained.
 

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dead.juice said:
It's a good thing for the kid's sake that Asians hit like complete pussies
Bruce Lee just turned in his grave... way to go...

EDIT: This is still really wrong, I want to know the whole story but what I'm wondering is where's the LITTLE kids parents/guardians or people going to his aid or anything?!
 

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I've just been shown this video on Facebook by a friend of mine and... I don't know what to say. What the hell? What did this kid do to deserve this? How can so many people be standing by and watching as this goes on? And are these just normal Chinese people, or has the Chinee government been breeding and releasing some kind of humanoid monster onto the streets? To any escapists who already know of this, what the hell happened here?
Imagine if white people did this to a Chinese kid... we would be in prison before the afternoon was over... every person in that video is human scum.... and I hope they all get what they deserve.