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spookydom

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BonsaiK said:
spookydom said:
BonsaiK said:
I have an Epiphone Thunderbird and I love the sound, it sounds a lot better than the P-bass I used to have. Your biggest problem with a Thunderbird won't be the sound, it will be the weight, feel and neck-heaviness, so try before you buy. I like the way it feels but many don't, so whatever you do don't buy one blind. Also be aware some of the variants of the Thunderbird such as the Goth, Blackbird, T-Bird Pro etc do feel subtly different so try them too if you're considering buying.

Bass players with more than 4 strings on their instrument are just trying to compensate their shattered egos because they feel like demoted guitarists. There's really no need. Also 5 strings adds to their weight once again and the neck starts to feel more and more like a cricket bat the more shit you add. If you're into heavy drop tunings a bass player can just drop their E string permanently, no need to carry around another string. I'd only consider a 5-string if you were wanting to do really really fancy shit, but then if you're playing that stuff you're not really playing bass at all.
Gota agree on the whole here with Bonsaik. You don't need a five string and it is overcompensating. Not everybody can play it like they was Les Claypool you know?;) I have been a session musician for almost 20 years now. In that time only ever owned one five string. That's becouse I loved the tone on it. This was a yamaha. My advice when buying any guitar not just a bass is that you have to play it first. Every guitar despite it's make has it's own kind of feeling and sound, You wont know if it's right for you until you pick it up and get a feel for it. Have owned five Ibanez guitars over the years but only two of their basses. Though I loved the guitars at the time the basses to me they felt kind of plastic and fake. But each to their own.
Yes I agree. I love my Goth T-Bird but I've played other people's and I really hate some of them so the OP should be aware that even from one instrument to the next of exactly the same model the feel can change. That's because these things are made out of wood, and two cuts of wood even from the same tree can vary in weight and density depending on which part of the tree was used.

I've never owned an Ibanez bass so I can't comment there, I haven't seen one I like the look of enough to want to pick up with the exception of those Jet King ones which I have to try one day. I've got an Ibanez acoustic guitar which is functional but meh, want to get rid of it. I used to have a 4-string fretless Yamaha bass that I thought was really good. It was cheap too, which made it even better in my eyes. Fuck expensive shit. I also had a Gibson bass once and that was horrible. I was so happy when I sold it for a fraction of its market value, what a hunk of junk, the Epi T-Bird is superior in every respect except build quality, but then I don't really care about build quality as my instruments are in and out of the repair shop so often that they're going to get an all-new build eventually no matter what.
Totaly dude. I have a freind who owns a vintage p-bass made the same year as mine. He loves it but I think it sounds like a p.o.s. I think every guitar is an individual just like every person. People can go on about makes and models all they wan't but I remember hearing tanglewoods and Alvarez's that sounded like angels jizzing in your ears;) A lot of the time it comes down the musician finding something that they can play imo.
 

electric method

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I've played a few ibanez basses and own one. My issue with them is they feel like toys. Really light weight and at times the tone is ridiculously dull or flat. I've also played a few that didn't have that problem and sounded pretty good but still felt to light with no weight behind them at all.

Personally I swear by Fender basses now. I have a buddy that had problems with his P-bass (truss rod probs) and switched to Ibanez. I've never had problems with my P except for a small problem with the saddle for the E slipping. But I also know guys that own the same P model I have that have had nothing but problems.

I think the line of thought that each bass is different due to many different reasons is entirely accurate. Best thing to do is go play some basses and find what works and what doesn't.
 

sam42ification

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Azaraxzealot said:
I'm trying to decide between a used Ibanez SR385 5 string bass and new Epiphone Thunderbird 4-string bass

in both cases i'd need to buy new strings because i prefer half-wounds, but i just want to know which one may be better, i just need a functional one that will last me a long time and has fairly good sound quality.

on the one hand, i like having that lower string for playing in keys lower than G so i don't have to move it up an octave, but i'm also already okay and used to playing with just 4 srings (and 20 frets, since i never use the higher ones anyway), so what do you think escapists?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/msg/2244933180.html - the Ibanez 5 string

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Epiphone-Thunderbird-IV-Bass-100388504-i1150015.gc - the Epiphone Thunderbird 4 string
Ibeneze is a much better brand than Epiphone and you can really on it lasting plus the ibaneze sound is really unique. Plus the ibeneze is a five string why wouldn't you get it.
 

Jonluw

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Personally, I would choose the Ibanez, because the Thunderbird looks like it's really uncomfortable to play on, and I've heard it's really poorly balanced.

Me, I play a Yamaha rbx374. I'm rather happy with it, but it seems like the strings tend to touch the frets a bit too easily, which causes a metallic whirring sound whenever I'm being even slightly sloppy.
 

Raven's Nest

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I use to own an epiphone thunderbird and most of what you need to know about them has been said already...

They sound dull, the neck likes to hit the floor and they can vary in quality loads...

But one crucial factor remains unspoken at this point...


You will never look more awesome playing any other bass!!!

I can't stress how important that is...
 

freekzim223

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The problem with a 5 string is the fact that the neck is really wide and personally makes the neck action a lot slower, and I know some people aren't as lucky as me but whenever I want to down tune I just use a different bass, I have an Ibanez SR500 with only 4 strings and it has never given me a problem. It gives a crisp sound and you also have to consider your amp is going to impact, my best advice would be to try in stores and when you do try, see if you can sample it on an amp similar to your own.

My advice would be get an Ibanez but stick to a four string, you'll be able to play faster and just use the bass you have now (I assume you have one) to play in songs that have a different tuning if you don't want to actively switch on stage
 

NuclearPenguin

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Raven said:
I use to own an epiphone thunderbird and most of what you need to know about them has been said already...

They sound dull, the neck likes to hit the floor and they can vary in quality loads...

But one crucial factor remains unspoken at this point...


You will never look more awesome playing any other bass!!!

I can't stress how important that is...
I raise your Thunderbird with a Steinberger.

That ladies and gentlemen is the most awesome looking of awesome bass.
 

Jonluw

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Raven said:
You will never look more awesome playing any other bass!!!

I can't stress how important that is...
I disagree.
As an added bonus, it's excellent for smacking people over the head.
 

The Eggplant

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As a former bassist, I'd like to add my own humble recommendation: the Kramer 450B.


I ended up painting my own Kramer in yellow and black, and let me tell you, it was a joy to behold. Plus the thing serves as a decent means of warding off rabid fans...it's built like a fucking battleaxe.

Alas, I took up drums about three years back when the original drummer from my former band abruptly quit, and since then The Hornet has been gathering dust beneath my bed at home.

Er, OT, though: 5-string is, in my experience, the way to go. It offers substantially more freedom with how you use your bass. I had a borrowed 5-string for a brief period and used to use it as the "wild card", tuning it to outrageous notes just for the sake of adding some zing to my basslines. (Or sound effects. Those too.)
 

Azaraxzealot

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similar.squirrel said:
I would opt for the Ibanez. Not just for the five-stringedness of it, but because they make damn fine bass guitars. Epiphone ain't bad, but it's not Ibanez.
if i could afford it i'd go for a warwick. now THOSE are also some fine basses (i've played my friend's 4-string with cherry wood body and holy SHIT it sounds awesome!)
 

TehChef

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As the proud owner of an Ibanez SR506 6 string bass and a Dean Sledgehammer 4 string bass, I feel I must weigh in with my opinion. First, T-birds have horrendous neck dive, as has already been said. Second, more strings = more options = better in my opinion. Obviously, if you're never going to use the fifth string, I wouldn't bother getting it. But I love the extra range I can get out of my 6 string. In fact, it's my go to bass. Also, someone said Ibanezes feel cheap because they're light... This is a bass we're talking about, light can be good - especially with added strings.

Also, what's with the extra string hate? Overcompensation? Really? Jeez, I thought the Escapist was more open minded than that. There are bassists that have technical chops ranking up there with whichever guitar virtuoso you care to name. Not all of us play like Michael Anthony.

Finally, Steinbergers look horrible. Gimmie a Ric 4001/4003 any day.

EDIT: To the OP, what kind of music style are you planning on playing most? Answering that question should help you determine what bass to get.