I've been wondering...
What is voldamort's motives?
Why is he evil?
Why does he want to kill people?
What is voldamort's motives?
Why is he evil?
Why does he want to kill people?
A question for Harry Potter fans...
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He's basically Magneto, except switch out "Mutants" for "Wizards" and "Humans" with "Muggles".
And if you don't know Magneto's motives, I will have to ask you leave the internet.
EDIT: OK, I realize that everything I'm about to say has already been said by FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE who quoted me. Still, these are all things that occurred to me unaided more or less right after I posted this. Really.
Magneto is actually way more awesome then Voldemort for the following reasons:
1. Voldemort is pretty much just a generic psycho, while Magneto's motives are a little more complex and even heroic.
2. Magneto is a holocaust survivor, which is a damn good reason to hate humanity. As far as I remember, Voldemort's "dark past" is something like "Kids made fun of him in school." Way less awesome. (NOTE TO HP FANS: Sorry if I'm wrong about that. It's been a while. Please don't quote me.)
3. His nemesis is Professor X, a bald man in a wheel chair who has more power then GOD. Voldemort's nemesis is an angsty teenager. AND HE LOSES.
I rest my case.
And if you don't know Magneto's motives, I will have to ask you leave the internet.
EDIT: OK, I realize that everything I'm about to say has already been said by FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE who quoted me. Still, these are all things that occurred to me unaided more or less right after I posted this. Really.
Magneto is actually way more awesome then Voldemort for the following reasons:
1. Voldemort is pretty much just a generic psycho, while Magneto's motives are a little more complex and even heroic.
2. Magneto is a holocaust survivor, which is a damn good reason to hate humanity. As far as I remember, Voldemort's "dark past" is something like "Kids made fun of him in school." Way less awesome. (NOTE TO HP FANS: Sorry if I'm wrong about that. It's been a while. Please don't quote me.)
3. His nemesis is Professor X, a bald man in a wheel chair who has more power then GOD. Voldemort's nemesis is an angsty teenager. AND HE LOSES.
I rest my case.
Fixed that for you. *Waves nerf gun threateningly at the OP*Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
OT: In all fairness its a pretty good question that i, as a harry potter fan, cant say as i grew up with harry potter i had never given it any thought, when your 6 years old and someone says "That guys a baddie" you dont question it
wrong. magneto is at heart, doing his thing for a noble cause. mutants are downtrodden and hated my normal dudes and magneto simply wants to fight back against that oppression.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
voldemort is just some evil bastard who thinks he's so much better than muggles cuz he can wave around a magic wand and do crazy things. he doesn't treat his followers well, he doesnt thank them for their help, he just fucks everything up because he has the power and because he can.
he's actually more like albert wesker than anyone else.
He hates muggles because his muggle father abandoned his mother when she got pregnant with him and essentially left her to die (He seems to ignore the fact that his mother had cast a spell on him so that he would get with her in the first place, basically making his mother a rapist)
His natural talent and rare abilities (such as Parseltongue) also gave him a sense of self-importance and entitlement once he first fully discovered them for what they were, which led to him tracing his lineage back to Salazar Slytherin, who he identified with because of their shared talents and a hatred for muggles and muggle-borns.
At some point he will have looked at the world around him and thought 'Why should I, a powerful wizard, descending from one of the most noble wizarding lineages, be forced to hide in secret from people like my father when I am more powerful than them?'
He is also obsessed with the idea of avoiding mortality. This fear of death, combined with a desire for more power so that he may conquer the muggle world, led to him immersing himself so deeply in practices of dark magic that any sense of humanity that may have been in him to begin with was extinguished.
I hope that covers it (I am a big HP fan btw, just in case you couldn't tell)
His natural talent and rare abilities (such as Parseltongue) also gave him a sense of self-importance and entitlement once he first fully discovered them for what they were, which led to him tracing his lineage back to Salazar Slytherin, who he identified with because of their shared talents and a hatred for muggles and muggle-borns.
At some point he will have looked at the world around him and thought 'Why should I, a powerful wizard, descending from one of the most noble wizarding lineages, be forced to hide in secret from people like my father when I am more powerful than them?'
He is also obsessed with the idea of avoiding mortality. This fear of death, combined with a desire for more power so that he may conquer the muggle world, led to him immersing himself so deeply in practices of dark magic that any sense of humanity that may have been in him to begin with was extinguished.
I hope that covers it (I am a big HP fan btw, just in case you couldn't tell)
As for why he wants to kill Harry, he basically wants to prove that he's the most powerful wizard of all time, and he wants to get revenge for Harry defeating him as a baby.
Everyone else ninja'd me on the why he's evil bit.
Everyone else ninja'd me on the why he's evil bit.
it always seemed to me that his base motivation was his fear of death
His first meeting with dumbledore supports this when he claims that his mum wasnt magic cos she died. He assumes his father was a wizard and when he finds out that he got his magic powers from his mum everything else he did revolved around seeking power and immortality
His first meeting with dumbledore supports this when he claims that his mum wasnt magic cos she died. He assumes his father was a wizard and when he finds out that he got his magic powers from his mum everything else he did revolved around seeking power and immortality
i agree with him not being like magneto, but doesn't wesker say in RE5 "i'm not destroying humanity, i'm saving it" because his motives are to make the world stronger through genetic selection (uroboros)?Ashcrexl said:
OT: he's a psychopath pretty much covers it. and a racist.
Actualy, they are quite different, as Voldemort is all evil, all the time, whereas Magneto has been portrayed as villan, anti hero, and even hero, if I remember correctly.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
If I remember his backstory (and if Wikipedia is to be believed), I think he's a Holocaust survivor and wants to stop mutants from suffering the same fate as the Jews.
Ulimately, his history doesn't really matter because, as ReservoirAngel and others said, it's racism. He's basically wizard!Hitler, there doesn't really need to be a logic to his actions. Plus, he comes from a severely psychotic and inbred family, which is something that was unfortunately cut from the films (along with the bulk of his history learned in Half-Blood Prince.) He had little chance, if any, to be anything other than what he was.
You know, it never occured to me that the intense fear of death he had was something that was in him even at that young age, but it makes sense. He made his first Horcrux when he was what, 16/17? If that.Exo-Mike said:
That's true for why he wants to kill teenaged Harry, but not when Harry was a baby. He wanted to kill him and Neville Longbottom when they were young, because of his fear of death and fear of the chance that another might ever be equal to him. However, by going after them (especially going after Harry himself), Voldemort essentially signed his own death warrant. He made Harry the Chosen One.ScoopMeister said:
Yeah, honestly, no offense OP but I thought that was obvious.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Voldemort hates muggles and thinks they inhibit the wizarding world. He thinks the world would be a better place without them or their non-magical blood (which hypocritically causes him to lash out at half-bloods and muggleborns).