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TristanBelmont

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While my favourites are and always will be Blue and Sapphire, I will say X/Y/Probably Z are definitely the best entries in the series thus far. Big world, lots of pokemans to force into your sick worldwide cockfighting, and you get roller skates!
 

Flutterguy

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Same as ever. A mind numbing casual RPG that's a great way to kill time. Graphics updated and gimmicks added, but no real change to the formula.
 

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Pathetically easy for any form of veteran, multiplayer is fun and challenging, but otherwise you'll breeze through really fast without any real trouble.
 

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FrozenLaughs said:
144 said:
The one different thing I'd put different to Red, if you've really missed all the games between, is the loss of emphasis on "catch 'em all". There's simply too many Pokemon, and too many unobtainable-without-unreasonable-effort Pokemon in particular, to make it feel like a worthwhile goal.
I, along with other Escapists have a living Pokedex. I'm only short a Mew, so it's entirely possible to trade your way up to every single non event Pokemon in the game. That's around 708/721.
I didn't say it was impossible. But it's a much more daunting task. Good for you, and for the other Escapists, for filling it (I haven't (but I have a Mew (haha (I bet you're jealous (sucker))))), though may I remind you that the Escapist is not a cross-section of gamers, but a sample of gamers that are more adamant than average.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRM0-FT0tUA <-- that is a nine-minute video. It takes nine minutes to just say all of the pokemon.
 

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I haven't played since Red and gave Y a go. Catching all the pokemon is harder but finishing the game is much easier. There's only one potential difficulty, which is the new XP share gives you so much xp if you limit yourself to one team don't use Repel/run from every battle and don't periodically turn xp share off your Pokemon will actually level past the point you are allowed to control them.
 

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Rack said:
I haven't played since Red and gave Y a go. Catching all the pokemon is harder but finishing the game is much easier. There's only one potential difficulty, which is the new XP share gives you so much xp if you limit yourself to one team don't use Repel/run from every battle and don't periodically turn xp share off your Pokemon will actually level past the point you are allowed to control them.
I believe only Pokemon you get through trades, Poke'transfer/Pokemon Bank, or that have a different trainer ID/OT such as...
the Lucario you get from the Gym Leader who gives you the Mega Ring
...are the only ones you can level up beyond your control. If you caught or received the Pokemon yourself, you should be able to level it up as much as you want without needing any badges.
 

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You're going to like X/Y. It has all of the first 150 excluding 7 (mostly unimportant ones).

Actually X/Y is pretty easy, if you mean by just beating the champion.

At the moment, if you download Pokemon Bank, you get Celebi for free. No Mew, however.
 

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It's basically impossible to finish the pokedex now without hacking, especially if you don't live in Japan. If you want to legitimately finish the dex, you're going ot have to go to ebay and buy game copies with those pokemon legitimately on them and do a lot of a transfers. Either that or get really lucky with trading people and even then there are 3 or 4 new pokemon that aren't even released yet (at least). That's not to say you cant get the large majority of pokemon in the pokedex, but guys like jirachi, mew, arceus, genesect, those guys will be difficult to find (at least finding legitimate ones).

If you haven't played since red, you'll also probably be a bit taken aback by some of the mechanics and new typings (alakazam is not the unstoppable truck he was in Gen 1 with the introduction of dark types and the differences in stats now [how you have six and how the elements no longer split]). I will say that it's easy to win, but then again, it always has been easy to win (I remember in my blue I made it through with three pokemon [alakazam, venasuar, and aerodactyl]) especially if all you wnat to do is overlevel or play the advantage game. I will say if you aren't expecting all the new fairy types and who is a fairy now it can take you by surprise the first few times.

all and all, Gen 6 is probably the best game to get back into the series (at least i think so) and I'd recommend it if you want to play a pokemon game. Gen 4 (Diamond/Pearl) is still my favorite overall but Gen 6(X/Y) is a very close second.
 

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Vilealbaniandwarf said:
I personally would avoid pokemon altogether. Like most Nintendo products its main audience is child sex abusers.


You know that one new thread about the stupidest things you've ever heard? I think this takes the cake, pie, and quite possibly the ice cream. Wow...
 

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X and Y are the best Pokémon has ever been from a gameplay perspective. The selection of Pokémon available includes the most different species out of any game in the series, hailing from all generations. In terms of difficulty, it's no problem for a veteran who's up to date on all of the mechanics, but all of the new stuff may take some getting used to. The story is kinda dumb, but you don't really play Pokémon for the story. In terms of graphics, the game looks beautiful, and the character customization is really cool.

Personally, I think that, despite the huge amount of Pokémon, X and Y are the easiest games in the series to catch them all in, apart from event-exclusive legendary Pokémon. This comes down to things like the GTS, which lets you search for and trade Pokémon with people all around the world, Wonder Trade, which lets you randomly exchange Pokémon with strangers, and the new and improved EXP Share which makes spreading experience around extremely easy.
 

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Queen Michael said:
I've been wanting to get into Pokémon again. What's the latest Pokémon game like? Keep in mind, I've only played Red. I know there's a huge bunch of new pokémon; does that mean finishing the game's much much much harder since there's so many pokémon to catch? And what are the latest titles? And is it still possible to get Mew and Celebi?
If, to you, finishing the game means catching them all, then yes, it's harder. 800 Pokemon is simply a lot more than 151.
I you just mean beating the game, same deal as with Red, basically.
 

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144 said:
FrozenLaughs said:
144 said:
The one different thing I'd put different to Red, if you've really missed all the games between, is the loss of emphasis on "catch 'em all". There's simply too many Pokemon, and too many unobtainable-without-unreasonable-effort Pokemon in particular, to make it feel like a worthwhile goal.
I, along with other Escapists have a living Pokedex. I'm only short a Mew, so it's entirely possible to trade your way up to every single non event Pokemon in the game. That's around 708/721.
I didn't say it was impossible. But it's a much more daunting task. Good for you, and for the other Escapists, for filling it (I haven't (but I have a Mew (haha (I bet you're jealous (sucker))))), though may I remind you that the Escapist is not a cross-section of gamers, but a sample of gamers that are more adamant than average.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRM0-FT0tUA <-- that is a nine-minute video. It takes nine minutes to just say all of the pokemon.
HOLY [censored] ON A [censored] IN A NUN'S [censored]! I just watched the entire thing, DANG there's a lot of them!
 

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Queen Michael said:
144 said:
FrozenLaughs said:
144 said:
The one different thing I'd put different to Red, if you've really missed all the games between, is the loss of emphasis on "catch 'em all". There's simply too many Pokemon, and too many unobtainable-without-unreasonable-effort Pokemon in particular, to make it feel like a worthwhile goal.
I, along with other Escapists have a living Pokedex. I'm only short a Mew, so it's entirely possible to trade your way up to every single non event Pokemon in the game. That's around 708/721.
I didn't say it was impossible. But it's a much more daunting task. Good for you, and for the other Escapists, for filling it (I haven't (but I have a Mew (haha (I bet you're jealous (sucker))))), though may I remind you that the Escapist is not a cross-section of gamers, but a sample of gamers that are more adamant than average.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRM0-FT0tUA <-- that is a nine-minute video. It takes nine minutes to just say all of the pokemon.
HOLY [censored] ON A [censored] IN A NUN'S [censored]! I just watched the entire thing, DANG there's a lot of them!
That's true, but I wouldn't really worry about that... The Community is super nice and it's never been so easy to trade with friends and strangers.

You also spend a lot of time in the Game. According to http://www.gamelengths.com/ the Average playtrough time is 148.3 hours. Now I was trough in about 70h and I wasn't really rushing, and I'm pretty sure you finish a lot faster.
You can choose your own pace and just enjoy it, you really get a lot of entertainment for the price.#
And that's just the first playtrough, if you get into a lot of the Endgame/Online features you'll be at it for a while.

I hadn't finished a Pokemon game since red/blue/yellow, played silver/Gold/sapphire but got bored, then I played ruby and just hated it (I found the pacing was just off... It felt like everything in game took forever to do) and now I've come back to play X/Y with friends and love it.
It's nice to see Charizard in full 3D animation just raining fire on those poor bug-types, and whenever you feel like it just trough in some pokemon in wondertrade. You'd kinda thing there would just be crap in there by now, but some people have been really generous... got some starters with pokerus and even shinys. It's rare but still pretty nice when you get something decent.
Also I really like that you get a small info window on the stats of your attack in battle. It's great to just check if a tackle or quick attack is more effective, without jumping trough hopes, especially at the beginning.

If you want to get back in there's never been a better time, and X/Y are just solid all round.
 

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Vilealbaniandwarf said:
Why? Have you not seen nintendo's products. They seem stuck in a time warp for people seemingly unable to give up being a child. I worry about these people. I certainly won't let my kids around somone's house if Daddy is into Mario.
Not quite. They simply enjoy their past, and wish to reach back into it, and even THEN, Pokemon's meta-game is complex enough to WARRANT the adults. Mario is simplistic fun. Simply because they enjoy Nostalgia DOESN'T mean they can't let go of their past, NOR does it mean they're child sex abusers, of ANY sort. Comparing the two is akin to saying that everyone who visits forums, YOU INCLUDED, are idiotic bastards who will fuck anything that comes, consenting or not, and are completely nonsensical in logic, seek only to make people's lives awful, care only for pain and sorrow, and are all antisocial loner virgins. All at once. YOU, my friend, need to learn something about stereotyping, and how to AVOID making that mistake.
 

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Vilealbaniandwarf said:
Hero of Lime said:
Vilealbaniandwarf said:
I personally would avoid pokemon altogether. Like most Nintendo products its main audience is child sex abusers.
You know that one new thread about the stupidest things you've ever heard? I think this takes the cake, pie, and quite possibly the ice cream. Wow...
Why? Have you not seen nintendo's products. They seem stuck in a time warp for people seemingly unable to give up being a child. I worry about these people. I certainly won't let my kids around somone's house if Daddy is into Mario.
Hang on a minute, even if Nintendo products are popular with childlike adults, which as one myself I suspect is true to a degree since their main target audience is children, how does that then link to rape or abuse? Not seeing the connection here to be honest, I daresay any hypothetical children are much safer with an adult who can connect with them at their level and shares their interests rather than some boring old dud who only likes his entertainment 'mature'.

OT: Pokemon X & Y have been awesome for me, I know it's already been said but I can't praise the online facilities enough. They were first introduced in Gen IV but by now they're much faster, allow easier adding of friends, have specific search functions on the GTS and crucially can be accessed from the touchscreen anywhere in the game, rather than having to travel to a particular building every time you want to use the GTS. Aside from that, we finally have a handheld 3D Pokemon game, what more could anyone want?
 

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It's easier than previous games for the following:
- All the participating Pokemons gets 100% experience now, 50% for non-participants if you have exp-share on.
- The UI is a lot nicer.
- You can remove HM moves.
- TM are now infinite use items.

It's harder than previous games:
- There are 750+ Pokemon. I simply gave up due to the lack of everything.
- Constantly gets intercepted at every single entrances / exits / ramps to cities by your stupid partners who will vomit their pointless monologue onto you.
- The 1v5 battles are a pain if the opposite team has stun-related moves (sleep/confusion/paralysis).
- The Elite four + champion are a lot higher level.

Others:
- Human blocker are still used, and will block your access for stupid reasons.
- 2v2 / 1v5 battles are interesting. Yes, you can partner up with a friend for the 2v2.
- Confusion still doesn't work on AI. Well, it hits but it's a waste of time for all intent purposes.
 

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Is it still possible to get Mew and Celebi?

Well sadly I think you may have to Gameshark those (do they still have Gamesharks? If not, whatever equivalent exists) for one of the GBA games, then use the Pal Park in DPP to bring it into the DS games, and then trade from there (it's a hassle but worth it if you want some of the best gen 3 and gen 1 Pokemon from the GBA remakes). Those are event Pokemon only, so it would not be possible to catch them under ordinary circumstances.

Pokemon X and Y are without a doubt the best Pokemon games in a long time. In my opinion they're beaten out only by generation 2 (which was my favorite) because the villains' dialogue is extremely annoying (and it should tell you how great this game is that such a small thing is my only complaint), their objective is some kind of contrived G-rated take on philosophical hedonism. The new Pokemon are a vast improvement over the new creatures that have been added in the last few generations (looking at you, gen 5 and your living garbage bags, candles, and ice cream cones). Difficulty-wise, I'd say it's about the same as generation 2, just shy of generation 3's difficulty.

X/Y also nearly all of the original 150, if you so choose you can run your original RBY team just like back in the good 'ole 8 bit days...yes, you can even get the original starters within 20 minutes of gameplay.
 

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Vilealbaniandwarf said:
Hero of Lime said:
Vilealbaniandwarf said:
I personally would avoid pokemon altogether. Like most Nintendo products its main audience is child sex abusers.


You know that one new thread about the stupidest things you've ever heard? I think this takes the cake, pie, and quite possibly the ice cream. Wow...
Why? Have you not seen nintendo's products. They seem stuck in a time warp for people seemingly unable to give up being a child. I worry about these people. I certainly won't let my kids around somone's house if Daddy is into Mario.
Yes, I'd much rather let my child around "somone" who plays wholesome games like Grand Theft Auto. How else are they going to learn important life lessons like that you can get your money back if you just kill the hooker after your finished with her. Plus we all know that when Toad tells Mario that Peach is in another castle, Mario reenacts the prison rape scene from American History X. "You wanna act like a Princess? I'mma treat you like a princess!"

ON TOPIC: Pokemon X and Y are fine games. In my opinion, keeping up with all the new pokemon isn't the biggest obstacle to tackle. Until you get into competitive battles, all you really need to know is what type they are so you can wipe them up with a dirty dish rag, and GameFreak has done a fine job across the generations of letting a pokemon's design reflect such traits. See a blue pokemon shaped like a fish with ice around it's mouth? It's probably water/ice. Is it a turtle instead of a fish? Most likely water or water/??? with high defense. See some neutrally colored mammal with no obvious tells as to what the hell it is other than a pokemon version of an animal? Probably normal type. Purple? Poison. Purple and especially mean looking? Poison/Dark. See an evil looking tree called Trevenant? Tree and revenant; Grass and Ghost. Something shaped like a ball? Expect it to blow up.

Of course, out of 700 something odd pokemon, there are exceptions, but the most difficulty you'll have will be trying to keep up with all the new moves and abilities. I've played every generation and I still occasionally catch myself going "He used Flatter? What the hell is Flatter?" But it's still an amazing ride, and I HIGHLY recommend that you pick it up.