A Question of Logic and Conspiracy

[defcon 1]

This is for all the extra-terrestrial life on earth people. I understand the story that's being told. Aliens crash land on earth and the United States government conceals them in places like Area 51 and Building 8 of the Johnson's Space center, etc. People who believe in extra terrestrial life along with the several disclosures claimed that all sorts of bad ass technology has been constructed and demonstrated. They say stuff like ?we have reverse engineered Anti-Gravity, free energy, and all sorts of utopia like technologies that could solve all our problems but we don't want the public to know. Sounds pretty cool right?

If that's so, then WHY!? Why on Earth would the government want to hide it? The government has nothing to gain by hiding it, and everything to gain by sharing this type of technology with the citizens. If the brilliant scientist and engineers of this world contribute to reverse engineering this technology, then the United States would become far more advanced and everyone there wins. If you're from America, then you'll know just how serious something like the energy crisis is. If they have free energy, what's to stop them from releasing it?

One more thing has been bothering me. Whenever ?former Area 51? employees disclose the information about their experiences with reverse engineering. The problem is that they have a very abstract explanation about how it works. Why haven't they released any documentations about their exact experiences. If they know how a certain device works, why haven't they taught the public how to use it?

 

[captainwalrus]

Well, supposing that a secret government facility does house super technologies and the government is currently researching them, then I can think of a few reasons they may choose to hide it.

1. To prevent enemy states from learning about them. This reason would probably have more relevance during the Cold War, when we were neck-and-neck with the Soviet Union, always trying to one-up them.

2. With regards to the free energy thing, basic financial reasons would probably be what would be holding them back. Imagine if the government just came out one day and said: "Yo, we have an unlimited source of energy..." Well, then they just put several multi-billion corporations out of business, costing the populace millions of jobs, generated a state of panic, and probably lost a lot of their own vested interests in the Middle East and South America. And imagine what kind of instability would happen to the OPEC states, with the collapse of oil prices.

I mean, they're pretty weak reasons. I honestly, don't believe that the government has any super secret alien technology housed in top secret black ops. facilities. But yeah..

 

[Zacharine]

In conspiracy theories, logic is rarely to be found. So don't be too surprised that some things just don't make any sense to anyone outside of the 'group' that knows the 'truth'.

 

[defcon 1]

1. To prevent enemy states from learning about them. This reason would probably have more relevance during the Cold War, when we were neck-and-neck with the Soviet Union, always trying to one-up them.

The Cold War makes sense but what about now? All these claimed weapons are harmless. If they did have weapons, they could still classify those and declassify everything else.

It seems that in all conspiracy theories people have found all this evidence (even if a lot of it doesn't make sense or leap to certain conclusions) but failed to neglect why the guilty party have done the things they've done.

 

[talon92]

They hid the UFOs under the grassy knoll.

 

[New Troll]

The technology we've discovered doesn't seem capable of running off what resources we have available. Maybe one day we'll come up with a new power source or an intergalactic power converter, but for now all we can do is stare at it in awe. And keep it hidden from everyone that's not us. Don't trust you guys with a ten meter caddleprod.

 

[Stevedave00]

Why is it most folks who openly believe in UFO'S can't pass a psychological evaluation?

 

[IxionIndustries]

There are little green men in my pillowcase..

 

[GothmogII]

Conspiracies on the whole always seem to tend to the more mundane. Fraud, murder, mass poisonings, secret governmental 'mind control' experiments involving injecting unwilling or un-informed subjects with psycho-active drugs.

Even if no logic is to be had from conspiracy nuts, it's still a fool that trusts his/her government completely to do only the good and right things, and the less good things only when necessary. You have to think, after things like MKULTRA or Operation Midnight Climax got out, that aside from the public outcry, those kind of things may still happen, they just learned from their mistakes and learned how to cover it up better. :\

As for the UFO stuff, I doubt it. The military seems to come up with some pretty wacky weaponry on it's own, and even if it were true, they'd -would- be fully justified in covering it up, especially with regards to 'weapons technology'.

 

[TaborMallory]

If the government hides extraterrestrials, it's probably so people don't freak the fuck out and destroy any hopes of establishing peace.

 

[ILPPendant]

Why is it most folks who openly believe in UFO'S can't pass a psychological evaluation?

Because they believe in things that don't exist.

 

[arc101]

logic sugests that the chance of the right conditions and the right amount of luck to create life will happen again,if their is an almost infinite number of solar systems in the universe. Logically, the odds of us being on our own are minute, However, the chance of it being intelligent life are also tiny, as are the chances of us ever finding them

 

[AngloDoom]

Logic:

There is a moon.

Conspiracy:

There is no moon

 

[defcon 1]

logic sugests that the chance of the right conditions and the right amount of luck to create life will happen again,if their is an almost infinite number of solar systems in the universe. Logically, the odds of us being on our own are minute, However, the chance of it being intelligent life are also tiny, as are the chances of us ever finding them

That's true, even if it's just single celled organisms. There was a similar thread with pages to discuss just that. This one is more about intelligent life on Earth.

 

[arc101]

logic sugests that the chance of the right conditions and the right amount of luck to create life will happen again,if their is an almost infinite number of solar systems in the universe. Logically, the odds of us being on our own are minute, However, the chance of it being intelligent life are also tiny, as are the chances of us ever finding them

That's true, even if it's just single celled organisms. There was a similar thread with pages to discuss just that. This one is more about intelligent life on Earth.

You'll never find it