A question to console owners

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Aprilgold

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malestrithe said:
Aprilgold said:
You see unlike PC where we can emulate bloody EVERYTHING if we have a big enough power-house, console owners will have to get rid of either their console if they don't have space, or keep it if they do have space so they can play all their games with their data.
But being a console game also encourages people to move with the times and play only the latest system and technology. Also, the console gamers aren't greedy. We don't need the promise of being able to play everything to keep us going. We also trust our memories and do not need to save everything either.

Besides, if we need to go back in time, playstation 3 and 360 already have that ability. We are capable of playing select titles from last generation on both and even more from 2 generations ago on the ps3. We have the ability to do so. We just don't see it as another notch in this mythical and meaningless "why PC is better" debate.
Now this is ironic.
But being a console game also encourages people to move with the times and play only the latest system and technology.
Yet by standard principles, especially now I would not call the Xbox 360 or PS3 'cutting edge.' Its like calling the radio, today, a cutting edge piece of technology that will totally change how we listen to music. How do these two relate is the most likely question? You see, similar to the radio, consoles are quite old when it comes to the technological curve. A radio, while a major milestone for broadcasting or music-listening is not the most cutting edge thing in both fields. There have been other examples of better 'radios' so-to-speak which involves things like Twitch TV, Podcasting software along with more, less notable ones.

A console, on the basis that it can not be upgraded until a generation ends ensures that, on day of release it is already falling behind on the technological-curve. You can't pull out the video card from the console and install a new one like you can a PC. You can't just take a part from a console and then insert it into its slot and expect it to still function properly. However, on a PC I can customize, switch and swap-it to my heart's content and it will run fine as long as I didn't forget to install it or didn't plug-it-in properly.

I also love this here as well.

Also, the console gamers aren't greedy. We don't need the promise of being able to play everything to keep us going. We also trust our memories and do not need to save everything either.
I never said that we needed the guarantee to play everything. Your throwing a hissy-fit over nothing here. But I'll elaborate on this point like I did your last one.

The accusation that I am greedy for simply being able to play games that are so old now that they can't run on modern anything is like saying people who play music through MP3 files are greedy bastards for not using exclusively Records for their music pleasure.

Money is a main problem when it comes to retro gaming, the older the more daring and dodgy the things your buying become and the harder it is to get the system you just spent thousands on for the games and the hardware to work. I don't know about you, but I don't have thousands to spend on something that may or may not work.

On the aspect though, how else are you going to play the Dos now in days aside from the Dos itself or Dos-Box? No modern PC can run Dos anymore, the program is to old to work.

While here, covering the same topic again, consoles are behind the times because you can't just swap out the standard Xbox Video Card for the newest Nvidia Video-Card and expect it to work. On PC you could, but not on the Xbox.

Besides, if we need to go back in time, playstation 3 and 360 already have that ability. We are capable of playing select titles from last generation on both and even more from 2 generations ago on the ps3. We have the ability to do so. We just don't see it as another notch in this mythical and meaningless "why PC is better" debate.
At the risk of sounding Elitist like its a bad thing, yes PC is better. PC has been better for the past few years. We lack having to enter several codes to play our games. We lack discs for which can break. We lack having to leave the house to buy our games. I can buy that shit through my damn phone, tell it to download and play it once I get home from work. We lack stores that cause publishers to gain less money for their game. We lack a used-games section, which is actually bad unlike the rest. We lack the space needed to house game boxes. We do not lack a thriving independent scene. We do not lack the customization of our platform and we are not behind the times by 5 or so years. We don't lack strict-publishers, shutting down game makers if they don't reach a certain mystic score or make a certain amount of money.

PC has been better for the past few years because of the rising of Steam and the fact that publishers are fully cut out of the picture on the PC. No game idea can be told no to being sold because it may affect their bottom line. Games like Legend of Grimrock would never damn see a shelf-life because of things like publishers. What has the indie scene for consoles been like? What very-small-indie-games got a shelf life on consoles as of late? What new software has Xbox upgraded to over the 360s life span?

To end it, PC is better on the basis that it lacks many of consoles problems. I could care less that I sound elitist but what giant-benefits are coming to console in the next generation? The ability for ads to just pop-in and say "YO, BUY DIS DRINK DOG F8 DAT GAMER DAT IS YO!" while your in the middle of something. For ads to be interactive. To have to pay more for playing online, despite you already having a connection to the internet?

OH WOOPS, FORGOT THE "MY OPINION" PART OF THIS! I tried to ground most of this in fact, but that doesn't mean that I'm not colored into liking PC's more, this is just a disclaimer so that your aware that this is not 100% unbiased truth, because it is biased.

I answered the OP's question earlier, I'll do it agian here. Unlike most PC players who never gain or essentially lose space unless they get a gaming laptop, console gamers will more then likely have to keep their consoles to play their old games with their current saves or just able to play their games at-all if there is no backwards capability, and if there is capability backwards they'll sell their console and keep the newer one.
 

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I generally keep them, there always comes a time when you just get an insatiable itch to play an old game you used to love. Just have to unbox whatever system its on and plug the bugger in.
 

Bruenin

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I probably won't buy one... there isn't much variety between the consoles anymore and I'm more into PC gaming even though for most of my life it's been strictly consoles.

And backwards capability because you have to go to special measures to repair and hook up older systems now, and anyways... it's a nice feature :p, there are a lot of awesome older games.
 

Agow95

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I'll keep it because of sentimental stuff and what if my next-gen xbox breaks or has a system update that'll take hours because I live in Wales and I want to play video games? I could use my laptop, but chances are my twin'll be using it.
 

AnarchistFish

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Oktanas said:
Wen you buy a next gen console, what will you do with your current gen console???
If the answer is keep it then why you need backward compabilyti??? You already have a device that plays current gen games. It's not that hard to switch cable.
Yeah, the backwards compatibility is for people who don't have the old consoles then...
 

loc978

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I'll keep the PS3 around, just like I did every console from the Atari 2600 on up to the PS2. Backwards compatibility is a funny thing... my PC actually plays PS1 games better than my PS2 or PS3 do. Truth be told, it plays 'em better than my old PS1 does...
 

RaNDM G

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I was planning to save up for a new PC. I'm not interested in the next console generation.
 

Shadow flame master

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I don't need commatability for my next-gen systems because I have all of the consoles form last gen and this gen. What I need are games for the previous gens.
 

Reyold

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Hazy992 said:
If it's backwards compatible, probably sell it. If it's not then keep it.
Same here, though I'm told the Wii U's E3 line-up was less than impressive, so whether or not I get one depends on how many games interest me by Christmas next year (the most likely time I'll be getting it). Then you have the rumors about the PS4 having no backwards compatibility and blocking pre-owned games; regardless of how unfounded they may be, they're still there.

We'll just have to wait and see.
 

dreadedcandiru99

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Sure, I'll keep the old ones. I think I've still got the original boxes, in fact--when I get the new consoles, I'll dust off the old ones and pack them up. It's not like they take a whole lot of room.

Why not? The new ones may not be backwards-compatible, and I don't want to pay more for digital copies of games I've already bought.