A quick question to the Americans of this site...

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Something Amyss

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omega 616 said:
I mean, 1 is celebrating leaving British rule and the other is kind of about about slaughtering the natives (as far as I understand it). Have I misunderstood or is it kind of "yay we got our own way!"?
We like killing things. British, Natives, whoever.

No, but seriously, Thanksgiving is a harvest festival. And while people often point out that the colonists shared the celebration with natives they then slaughtered, it wasn't the same body of people.
 

Der_SchwarzAdler

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Dunno where your from, but I've worked for a major corp. in Germany, and we got more public holiday's off there than I ever have in the states.
 

Mark Hardigan

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Firstly, Thanksgiving isn't about celebrating slaughtering the natives. That's Columbus Day. :p Secondly, yes the natives in this country were severely (and still are in many situations) treated horribly.

Also, Thanksgiving -- as we know it -- never happened. But the idea of thanksgiving is to give thanks for what we have. And to buy turkey. And over market Christmas goods so hapless idiots will spend thousands on Black Friday. And potatoes. But mostly it's about me drowning my turkey in gravy and taking a nap.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Thanksgiving= thanks that our red friends saved us from starving

Independence Day= Day we celebrate no longer having to pay import on fancy drinks to a punch of dandies with funny accents and bad teeth.

I don't see the contradiction here
Ah, well. Atleast we're not fat, fatty.

I don't see the contradiction here either.
 

tthor

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Devoneaux said:
TrilbyWill said:
dyre said:
"we got those lobsterbacks to stop taxing us"
who was that?
you mean the British?
didnt we give you cheap, high quality tea so you wouldnt blow all your money on smuggled shite, which you then threw in the sea, because 'that was how we'd START taxing you'?
yes... i believe you did.
then you got pissy about us giving canada to the french to stop a war.
(i learn about 'merica from Cracked.com okay?)
Dude, this is america, we started a damn war over a two percent tax increase! (We were only pissed because nobody asked us first) We are crazy, we will murder your country if you even look at us funny! RAKDJSLEGELBW
http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/america_christmas-480x358.jpg
America: We'll kill you in your sleep on Christmas. I think we should just make that our new national motto~
 

maddawg IAJI

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The Pilgrims who were apart of what we call thanksgiving weren't part of the English colonies.

Plymouth Colony didn't merge with the Massachusetts colony until 1691.
 

tthor

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Robert Ewing said:
I never liked thanksgiving.

Mainly because all of my American friends are absolutely baffled as to why no other country on the planet celebrates it, and why I'm never in the thanksgiving spirit.

Sigh, this pattern is so common amongst Americans.
you must know stupid friends o_O
 

Draitheryn

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Thanksgiving is a harvest festival, it is celebrated in the United States in November and in Canada in October (because of the more northern climate causing the harvest to begin sooner). As to the origin story with the natives, that's truly a small part of it.
 

AlAaraaf74

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Yeah, in reality, Thanksgiving is us giving thanks to the Natives who didn't let our settlers die, so the settlers could expand and help finish what the Spanish started.

Independance day is us celebrating when we didn't loose the Revolutionary war.
 

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omega 616 said:
So I was just watching that 70's show and a special thanks giving episode was on and it got me thinking, does "thanks giving" and "independence day" kind of clash ...?

I mean, 1 is celebrating leaving British rule and the other is kind of about about slaughtering the natives (as far as I understand it). Have I misunderstood or is it kind of "yay we got our own way!"?

EDIT: the bit below this is a joke! I know you all don't celebrate every holiday, for example: I doubt many people celebrate Kwanzaa besides black people.

Also, looking on wiki at your holidays ... do you guys have ANY days in work? You have a flag day, Women's Equality Day, National Dog Day, Washington's Birthday (what about the other 30 odd presidents you have had?) just to name a few ...
Besides a massive misunderstanding of thanksgiving and independence day, I would just like to say that there are national holidays, and there are National Holidays. We only celebrate like 5. halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, easter, and independence day.
 

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tthor said:
Devoneaux said:
TrilbyWill said:
dyre said:
"we got those lobsterbacks to stop taxing us"
who was that?
you mean the British?
didnt we give you cheap, high quality tea so you wouldnt blow all your money on smuggled shite, which you then threw in the sea, because 'that was how we'd START taxing you'?
yes... i believe you did.
then you got pissy about us giving canada to the french to stop a war.
(i learn about 'merica from Cracked.com okay?)
Dude, this is america, we started a damn war over a two percent tax increase! (We were only pissed because nobody asked us first) We are crazy, we will murder your country if you even look at us funny! RAKDJSLEGELBW
http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/america_christmas-480x358.jpg
Haha, sending Germanic mercenaries to do a mans work!

Let me laugh harder!
 

Something Amyss

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spartan231490 said:
Besides a massive misunderstanding of thanksgiving and independence day, I would just like to say that there are national holidays, and there are National Holidays. We only celebrate like 5. halloween, thanksgiving, christmas, easter, and independence day.
LOL I missed the part where he thought we got Women's Equality Day off.
 
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Laxman9292 said:
Well Thanksgiving feasts were mainly a way to thank God for the completion of a long journey to the New World and was practiced by other countries as well, with Spain being the first documented thanksgiving. But the more popular idea of the Pilgrims at Plymouth's Thanksgiving is the opposite of what you described. It was a celebration of goodwill with the native Wampanoag tribe, particularly Squanto who taught them how to properly survive off the land and also to translate. Some people do think that it is representative of the genocide of natives, but I call bullshit on that because the original intent of Thanksgiving is the opposite. It's not like we're celebrating The Trail of Tears here.

And for your other question, USA actually doesn't have any national holidays that apply to all employees, the government only recognizes some holidays that apply to their own employees. Private businesses traditionally observe only the "big seven" holidays (New Year's Day, Easter, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas).
Fun fact: The first Thanksgiving in the United States was not held by the Pilgrims at Plymouth, but by settlers at Burkley Plantation in Virginia.

After reading the original post, I must say I am a bit offended. The OP has obviously done what Americans are so often accused of and simply dismissed another culture with laziness and an unwillingness to actually make an effort to learn.