A Return of "Oh So Many" Consoles Race?

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Owen Robertson

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ResonanceSD said:
Steam Box: Underpowered PC which will encourage developers to completely ditch the high end

Ouya: An amusing experiment

WiiU: Legitimately interesting, a console without power pretentions.

Ps4/Nextbox: Basically vaporware at the moment.

PC: Still the most powerful and most versatile option.
But the PC market earns less dollars, meaning there's less competition, and likely stagnation. Are Civ 5 and Planetside 2 as good as I've heard?
 

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FelixG said:
I would have thought that Valve would have droped the Valve box idea.
Vault101 said:
ResonanceSD said:
Steam Box: Underpowered PC which will encourage developers to completely ditch the high end
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what do you mean by that exactly? (also a valve console is just an idea at this stage isnt it?)
Well no.

http://www.gizmag.com/steam-box-confirmed/25378/

And if it's a catch-all pc/console with low specs, why would any developer bother going for anything higher than the Box?
 

Vault101

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ResonanceSD said:
Well no.

http://www.gizmag.com/steam-box-confirmed/25378/

And if it's a catch-all pc/console with low specs, why would any developer bother going for anything higher than the Box?
hmmm...itneresting

but it just sounds like another (albiet slightly different) console...no reason to abandon the regular PC/windows market
 

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Teehee.

OT: Wasn't there also a rumour about Alienware building a console aswell? Either way, with all these potential console devices, I hope that there'll be lots and lots of cross-platform multiplayer.
 

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Owen Robertson said:
But the PC market earns less dollars, meaning there's less competition, and likely stagnation. Are Civ 5 and Planetside 2 as good as I've heard?
I wouldn't say there's less competition. Thanks to the multiplatform, if one title is a console exclusive, a multiplatform game will exist as competition. That multiplatform game will also be on the PC, and the developers will have to deal with PC and console competition with their game.
Stagnation is a little different. Stagnation is basically the same as in the console market thanks to what I mentioned above - consoles influencing multiplatform games - only spread out across more genres, and there are occasional interesting things like Star Citizen that pop up with interesting mechanics that are PC exclusive.

As for Civ V and Planetside 2...
Civ V is ok. With Gods and Kings its my second favourite in the Civilization series, without it it only ranks above Civ III. Civ IV is my absolute favourite, especially with Beyond the Sword. Civ V is a lot more beginner friendly, however the simplification and removal of many features made it just seem hollow to me, whilst Civ IV had a lot of systems in it that took a bit to learn, but added a reasonable amount of depth to managing your Civilization such that many of the options had advantages and disadvantages, so you would choose different ones at different times, whilst Civ V mostly just takes the "Which upgrade would you like to purchase?" route where everything is just purely improvements, they just move in different directions [Improvements that benefit a small civilization with only a couple of cities vs ones that benefit large civilizations with many cities, both of which are largely useless to the other]. Combat is arguably better in Civ V. IMO its a bit too lenient on your units in that your units will barge in, do a small amount of fighting, take some damage, deal some damage, then back out and wait for the next turn as opposed to the absolutes of the previous Civilization games where you would send in your unit and it had an X% chance of winning the fight, and a Y% chance of withdrawing. If you didn't win or withdraw, your unit died. If the opponents didn't win or withdraw, their unit died. I do prefer the hexagon grid of Civ V and the inability to create stacks of doom however - those are clear improvements IMO.
Planetside 2 is an interesting game. It is, overall, quite fun and enjoyable. I remember when I first logged in to play - My friend told me to get it, I downloaded and installed it, created my character, logged in and was deployed somewhere that I instantly logged out from because I became busy. After getting back on, I was spawned at the main base for my nation. My friend met me there, told me to buy a fast buggy like car and meet him outside. I did so. We started to drive towards the front lines. There was a bridge about 200m down the road that we crossed. As we were crossing it, I looked up and saw about 50 aircraft of various sizes just flying towards the frontlines. There are other times where I've assaulted an enemy base at the bottom of a 5-600m deep crater with a spiral path leading out, and seen a massive line of tanks and APCs leading out of it on their way to the front lines. The scale of Planetside 2 is amazing. Sadly, this sometimes works to its disadvantage. According to my friend, the game limits what is rendered on your screen to 200 foot soldiers. Vehicles are unlimited in render number, but only the closest 200 foot soldiers, friend or foe, are rendered. To put it in perspective, the large battles in the BF3 campaign would still only have between 20 and 30 people fighting in them, generally closer to 10-20 people. Sadly, at certain places [The Crown *cough cough*], you will greatly surpass this render limit as thousands of, as my friend and I like to call them, lemmings charge up towards the base in a fruitless attempt to capture the base. Even during this time, however, I am yet to experience any lag. Mechanically the game is sound, and overall its very fun to play. There are a few downsides, such as the large numbers of enemies meaning that one or two players are unlikely to be able to do much in the grand scheme of things, and the fact that unlocks take forever to get at the start, but it is a very fun game overall.
 

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Hmm...
1. Apple won't make one, because they already earn enough money with Iphone.
2. Ouya may see a good start, but since it's just android smartphone connected to TV it will dissapear quickly.
3. PS4 and NextBox will not bring any surprizes, although Microsoft should bring it's console to my country and have greater variety of genres in their exclusives line, while Sony should make it so, that PS4 plays ps2 and ps3 games plus they should aim for great third party support.
4. Steambox. It's intriguing, at least. The greatest asset of a consoles is that they all have similar hardware, which means that devs'll won't have to think about hardware compatibillity. And, if Steambox will have:
1) PC-ish third party support
2) relatively fair prices,
3) games that come out only for consoles (i.e. most of fighting games, JRPG's, etc.)
4) My collection of steam games, that I've already purchase
Then I think I'll buy it.