A Specific Case of Downloading Music.
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Azureus and utorrent both allow for a zero upload speed.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:What client are you using? Every bittorrent client I know of does not let you disable uploads. Upload limited to 0 = no limit.Ranorak said:Disabling the uploads fixes this pretty fastSmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Sure it's justified.
But i can't see why you would want to?
CD's are higher quality than MP3's, that's not secret. The problem with a lot of MP3's from the internet, however, is that they are ripped by people who have little knowledge about MP3 codecs, general music quality and what importance Joint Stereo makes. This means that they often use terrible MP3-codecs, use normal Stereo (which quality-wise is around 40%+ inferior to a proper Joint Stereo implementation) and assume everything is "High Quality" just because they set the bitrate to 320.
Unless you have an MP3-player that doesn't support the AAC format (most do these days, including iPods since AAC is the format iTunes Store sells music in), my recommendation is that you rip your CD's yourself again to AAC, since it's a very superior compression format to MP3 and always uses Joint (Mid-Side) Stereo. Sure it takes time, but at the end i believe it's worth it.
If you happen to use iTunes for ripping, use the settings in the picture below, except the Bitrate, which you can set to whatever you like depending on your disk space availability/quality requirements. From personal blind listening tests, i can tell you that i can't make out the difference between 160 kbps iTunes AAC and CD-quality, but all audio codecs have so-called "Killer Samples", meaning that there are some music pieces that will have compression artifacts with a specific codec if it's set to low quality, which is why it's good to use a bit higher quality than normal, even if you can't hear the difference at lower quality normally. I personally recommend at least 192 kbps (which is around the equivalent of 230-240 kbps LAME MP3, LAME being the best MP3 coder on the market). Whatever you do, however, don't rip to MP3's using iTunes, their MP3 codec isn't very good. 192-320 kbps VBR AAC is close to the best (lossy) compression you can get, if not the best.
If you have any further questions about proper ripping, then feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to help you out
But i can't see why you would want to?
CD's are higher quality than MP3's, that's not secret. The problem with a lot of MP3's from the internet, however, is that they are ripped by people who have little knowledge about MP3 codecs, general music quality and what importance Joint Stereo makes. This means that they often use terrible MP3-codecs, use normal Stereo (which quality-wise is around 40%+ inferior to a proper Joint Stereo implementation) and assume everything is "High Quality" just because they set the bitrate to 320.
Unless you have an MP3-player that doesn't support the AAC format (most do these days, including iPods since AAC is the format iTunes Store sells music in), my recommendation is that you rip your CD's yourself again to AAC, since it's a very superior compression format to MP3 and always uses Joint (Mid-Side) Stereo. Sure it takes time, but at the end i believe it's worth it.
If you happen to use iTunes for ripping, use the settings in the picture below, except the Bitrate, which you can set to whatever you like depending on your disk space availability/quality requirements. From personal blind listening tests, i can tell you that i can't make out the difference between 160 kbps iTunes AAC and CD-quality, but all audio codecs have so-called "Killer Samples", meaning that there are some music pieces that will have compression artifacts with a specific codec if it's set to low quality, which is why it's good to use a bit higher quality than normal, even if you can't hear the difference at lower quality normally. I personally recommend at least 192 kbps (which is around the equivalent of 230-240 kbps LAME MP3, LAME being the best MP3 coder on the market). Whatever you do, however, don't rip to MP3's using iTunes, their MP3 codec isn't very good. 192-320 kbps VBR AAC is close to the best (lossy) compression you can get, if not the best.
If you have any further questions about proper ripping, then feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to help you out
They will get their music anyway. If he can complete his download, so can they.Sober Thal said:
Also, there is plenty of people that consider file-sharing okay. You might not agree with that, but that doesn't make them "asshats", and that doesn't make you more right than they are. Like he said, file-sharing is legal in his country, maybe for a good reason. It might be illegal once again in the future... or it might be the first country out of many to legalize it. We don't know.
It's a similar thing to redeeming a game on steam and downloading on steam instead of using the CD.
I think what you are doing is fair, and if it isn't legal, it should be.
I mean seriously you own the song why should you have to pay for it again if it breaks.
But you even still have the CDs, so there is honestly nothing wrong with that.
I think what you are doing is fair, and if it isn't legal, it should be.
I mean seriously you own the song why should you have to pay for it again if it breaks.
But you even still have the CDs, so there is honestly nothing wrong with that.
I'd like to point out that there is nothing called "owning the song".NinjaCatStudios said:
Owning a DVD-video, for example, doesn't give you the legal right to download a blue-ray version of the same movie. Similarly, some music selling websites offer their music in several formats. TrackItDown, for example, offers both a WAV (CD-Quality) and 320 kbit MP3 version, with the CD-Quality version being more expensive. Owning the MP3-version therefore doesn't automatically entitle you to a higher quality version.
Now, owning the CD's, he of course already legally has the CD-quality version available. I just wanted to point out that sometimes, different quality has different price
)My view: Its totally fine, your Countries view on the other hand is probably different.
I like to collect hip-hop music and some of the stuff is near impossible to get hold of, mix-tapes and stuff. So I download these, does it make me a bad person? I don't think so, if anything I'm showing more love for the artist by obtaining this rare material. But I don't think the law see's it that way.
I like to collect hip-hop music and some of the stuff is near impossible to get hold of, mix-tapes and stuff. So I download these, does it make me a bad person? I don't think so, if anything I'm showing more love for the artist by obtaining this rare material. But I don't think the law see's it that way.