A study of Archetypes: MLP:FIM and Foster's

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DuctTapeJedi

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Today at work, I somehow began thinking on the topic of the use of archetypes in cartoons. Wondering how it could be applied to current television, I reached the conclusion that two of the more popular shows from Lauren Faust's background, "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" and "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends" draw from almost identical archetypal models.

I assume that everyone here has at least a basic knowledge of MLP, but just in case Foster's is less known of, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster%27s_home_for_imaginary_friends

The characters:




Both characters begin their respective adventures by leaving their comfort zones, and finding a new home. For Twilight, it's moving to a new town. For Mac, it's the transfer of his best friend to a new home. Both tend to be more reserved, acting as a voice of reason for their counterparts.




Both Spike and Bloo are meant to serve as something of a characterization of the audience. (Well, Bloo was, at first, anyway.) Spike chimes in with observations and comic relief whenever things get too cheesy. The first time we see Foster's, it's through Bloo's eyes. Both are also 'created' by the protagonists.




Both characters are incredibly honest, selfless, and refuse to be an inconvenience to others. Both are the first to be met by the protagonist, and both remain loyal friends.




Pinkie and Goo are both, well... insane, and most likely suffering from ADHD.




What does Fluttershy have in common with a giant, horned, purple monster? Everything.
Both are terrified of everything, are shy to the point of not talking to the protagonist upon their first meeting, and have a fondness for small animals. Both also have a hidden inner strength, as shown in Fluttershy's standing up to the dragon, and Eduardo's fighting Extremosauruses.




Frankie and Rainbow Dash are both endlessly loyal to their respective groups. They also share a similar attitude of irreverence.




Admittedly, this one is a bit of a stretch. Rarity and Herriman are both the 'cultured' characters within their circles. They both seem frequently confused by the actions of their less sophisticated peers, but are generally good natured.



While Madame Foster is considerably more... crazy than Celestia, both share a common trait with the protagonist, (imagination and magic, respectively, and have taken the task of helping the protagonist grow in said trait.


There's probably more I'm missing, but I've done enough image searching for one evening. Some of the fanart was... unsettling. The connections between the two shows don't make me love either any less. They're still both unique and creative.

So anywho, what are your thoughts on the similarities in characters? Are there any more I missed? What other shows have you noticed similarities in?

EDIT: Also, how could I forget?

Mostly, I just wanted to acknowledge Cheese. I don't know, maybe he's Discord?

I also forgot:

[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_3958.jpg]
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Although, Luna is actually redeemed, and Terrance is 'a big jerk' for the entire series.
 

Chased

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It's less of a conspiracy and more so just generic character design.
 

Dags90

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Rainbow Dash lacks Frankie's sarcasm and snarkiness.

Also, Coco? Coco, coco coco!

Seriously, I didn't watch Foster's that much, but I loved Coco the best.
 

Fawcks

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The Rarity one... Yeah, it's pushing it. Rarity only seems confused by the social mannerisms of Applejack.

The rest? Spot on. Bravo.
 

Areani

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It's the classic trope of Five Man Band. Or in this case Six Pony Band and a dragon. This trope is invoked for pretty much any story that has four or more central protagonists, and honestly it is usually the best way to go about it since we're all familiar with the formula.
 

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You know which archtype that MLP didn't take from Fosters, and that I'm grateful for? The buzzkill that always tries to get the main characters in trouble. That one can go to hell.
Dags90 said:
Rainbow Dash lacks Frankie's sarcasm and snarkiness.

Also, Coco? Coco, coco coco!

Seriously, I didn't watch Foster's that much, but I loved Coco the best.
And yeah! Where does Coco fit into this?
 

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ZincMan said:
Cartoons are OBVIOUSLY a conspiracy.
It's all a leftie/rightie plot to take over the minds of our children!
Anyway, good observation. I've only seen Foster's a few times, but the comparisons seem to hold up. I guess in the end, there's only so many archetypes you can put together to create a self-complimenting group of friends.
 

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gigastrike said:
You know which archtype that MLP didn't take from Fosters, and that I'm grateful for? The buzzkill that always tries to get the main characters in trouble. That one can go to hell.
Agreed. I always hate those characters in fiction.

Also, I'd say that Pinkie Pie is more like Coco than anyone else. Just my opinion.

Also, since we're talking about MLP and Fosters anyways, I find this relevant:

 

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gigastrike said:
You know which archtype that MLP didn't take from Fosters, and that I'm grateful for? The buzzkill that always tries to get the main characters in trouble. That one can go to hell.
Which character was that? I'm drawing a blank, it's been a while since I've watched it.
 

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Sweet! Somebody else remembers Foster's! I thought that I was the only one...

It really was a great show for those who have yet to see it.
 

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DuctTapeJedi said:
gigastrike said:
You know which archtype that MLP didn't take from Fosters, and that I'm grateful for? The buzzkill that always tries to get the main characters in trouble. That one can go to hell.
Which character was that? I'm drawing a blank, it's been a while since I've watched it.
I forget the name, but it's the stuck-up, yellow one with the elephant nose.
 

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gigastrike said:
DuctTapeJedi said:
gigastrike said:
You know which archtype that MLP didn't take from Fosters, and that I'm grateful for? The buzzkill that always tries to get the main characters in trouble. That one can go to hell.
Which character was that? I'm drawing a blank, it's been a while since I've watched it.
I forget the name, but it's the stuck-up, yellow one with the elephant nose.
Duchess? She was supposed to be awful and unbearable.
 

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OK, who here also thinks that Bloo turned into a selfish, egocentric, narcissistic, immature, borderline psychopathic little SHIT in the later seasons of Foster's? Raise your hands.

And who also here thinks that change made no sense since he was a rascally, but ultimately kind-hearted and loyal person at the beginning of the show.

I hope to Hell that that doesn't happen to the cast of FiM.
 

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Durgiun said:
OK, who here also thinks that Bloo turned into a selfish, egocentric, narcissistic, immature, borderline psychopathic little SHIT in the later seasons of Foster's? Raise your hands.

And who also here thinks that change made no sense since he was a rascally, but ultimately kind-hearted and loyal person at the beginning of the show.

I hope to Hell that that doesn't happen to the cast of FiM.
*raises hand*

In all honesty, that awkward change was what eventually turned me off of Fosters. I liked it at first, but as the show wore on, Bloo ended up being more annoying than endearing.
 

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Leemaster777 said:
Durgiun said:
OK, who here also thinks that Bloo turned into a selfish, egocentric, narcissistic, immature, borderline psychopathic little SHIT in the later seasons of Foster's? Raise your hands.

And who also here thinks that change made no sense since he was a rascally, but ultimately kind-hearted and loyal person at the beginning of the show.

I hope to Hell that that doesn't happen to the cast of FiM.
*raises hand*

In all honesty, that awkward change was what eventually turned me off of Fosters. I liked it at first, but as the show wore on, Bloo ended up being more annoying than endearing.
Oh my God, THANK YOU! I began feeling like I was the only sane person on the planet because nobody else voiced that damn opinion.