So I was leafing through a few old batman comics, and some newer ones, and I began thinking: Batman isn't afraid of dying, but The Joker seems to be actively seeking it. Each of his endeavours has I high chance to kill a lot of people, and there is always a possibility that he could die.
So my thought was this: Is Batman and the jokers plots against him some elaborate suicide attempt by the Joker? Joker has said before that "His cannon was fixed 'gainst self slaughter", and his plans to kill thousands always have some kind of punchline. But if you look deeper and past all the showmanship, the joker is really just trying to raise the stakes to make batman kill him. And it has to be batman, He just won't allow anyone else the honour of killing him. And of course it has to look good, because no-one should ever know that he WANTED to die.
Another point would be the times batman seems to be about to kill him, and he tells him to go ahead and do it. I'd always assumed that he was just trying to point out batman never would or will, but looking at this theory, maybe it's a triple-bluff that batman never calls. After these instances the joker pretty much always says "I knew you wouldn't, you never will" in a kind of sneering way. But perhaps that contains how sad he is that batman won't ever put him out of his misery.
And the jokers misery has been something covered in previous comics. There've been two instances I know of where joker has been made sane, and he is genuinelly sorry for his crimes and despairing for his victims. This points to the fact the joker secretly wants to die. He wants batman to die with him, sure, but the jokers death would be like a euthanisation for him.
There's always a sadness and a pity you can attribute to the joker, largely in his backstory. It seems likely that the reason he hates batman so desperately is because batman made him then refused to kill him, leading him to become what he is now. That's why batman has to kill him then die with him, only then can the joker forgive him. Whilst I imagine there are no plans to permanantly kill batman or the joker, I think that they have to die together. They're too connected and they can't be killed any other way.
Anyway, Thoughts?
So my thought was this: Is Batman and the jokers plots against him some elaborate suicide attempt by the Joker? Joker has said before that "His cannon was fixed 'gainst self slaughter", and his plans to kill thousands always have some kind of punchline. But if you look deeper and past all the showmanship, the joker is really just trying to raise the stakes to make batman kill him. And it has to be batman, He just won't allow anyone else the honour of killing him. And of course it has to look good, because no-one should ever know that he WANTED to die.
Another point would be the times batman seems to be about to kill him, and he tells him to go ahead and do it. I'd always assumed that he was just trying to point out batman never would or will, but looking at this theory, maybe it's a triple-bluff that batman never calls. After these instances the joker pretty much always says "I knew you wouldn't, you never will" in a kind of sneering way. But perhaps that contains how sad he is that batman won't ever put him out of his misery.
And the jokers misery has been something covered in previous comics. There've been two instances I know of where joker has been made sane, and he is genuinelly sorry for his crimes and despairing for his victims. This points to the fact the joker secretly wants to die. He wants batman to die with him, sure, but the jokers death would be like a euthanisation for him.
There's always a sadness and a pity you can attribute to the joker, largely in his backstory. It seems likely that the reason he hates batman so desperately is because batman made him then refused to kill him, leading him to become what he is now. That's why batman has to kill him then die with him, only then can the joker forgive him. Whilst I imagine there are no plans to permanantly kill batman or the joker, I think that they have to die together. They're too connected and they can't be killed any other way.
Anyway, Thoughts?
