Absurdly fast internetconnection - Why the hell for?

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Realitycrash

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Alright, I'm aware that the US has some rather (extremely) crappy broadband infrastructure, so I can see why you would want somewhat faster and cheaper, but bear with me.

Erhm. So my broadband-provider called today out of the blue and asked me if I was pleased with my current service (25mbit/sec for 29Ea month, around 38 USD or so). I confirmed that I was, and braced myself to ignore a pointless salespitch. Well, the pitch didn't come. Instead, the man in the phone said that they would be upgrading me to 100mbit/sec, four times as fast, if I just signed up on their website and confirmed.
"What's the catch?" I asked.
- "No catch, we're just upgrading our infrastructure and your apartment-building happens to be one of the first to have it installed. It's the same price as before.
" Uh, so 100/mbit a sec for 30E?"
- "Yes."
-" Okeeey..."

After I hung up, I started thinking. "Why the hell would I ever need this?"
I could come up with two reasons anyone would ever need that fast a connection in our current world.
1: They really, really love their online games, and can't handle the tiniest of lag.
Sure, I used to play a shitloads of WoW, and lag bugged me to no end, but with my 25mbit/sec connection, the only time I ever truely lagged seemed to be when the servers were overloaded. So in fact, even if I had a 1000mbit/sec, it wouldn't help me if the servers couldn't handle the traffic.
2: Downloading stuff. I.e pirating stuff. That's the sole reason I could think of anyone ever needing faster than what I already had. I already load everything online in an instant unless the servers are heavily taxed (*cough* Escapist on Wednesday *cough*), even online streaming is perfectly smooth. The only time something lags for me is due to my computer getting a bit old and can't process things fast enough. So this is most likely the same for everyone else in my area, right?
So pretty much my broadband-provider is encouraging me to download stuff (meaning pirate, in most cases. How often do you otherwise really download things that take any considerable amount of time? When downloading from Steam, perhaps), and that seems to be their entire selling-point.
"Go fast, go bigger!"
- "Uh, why?"
- "Well..Eh..Makes getting that latest Game of Thrones DVD a lot smoother!"

Now I'm not complaining that I got it for free, I just wonder what the hell ordinary people would ever use it for, and thus why the insane rush to upgrade an infrastructure that most already aren't using to their full potential as it is. I get that it is a marketing-strategy ("We got the fastet and cheapest!"), but hell, this just feels redundant, especially since most people don't play online games anyway!


(And oh, I live in Sweden, if you want to know)
 

Swyftstar

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Only thing I really need to dl are demos or full games and I usually just set that and then go to sleep so it's not really necessary to have that much of a faster connection.
I kind of feel the same way about 4G phones. I have a 3G phone that I can stream Netflix and Hulu on without a hitch. What the hell do I need 4G for?
 

PrinceOfShapeir

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Because the streaming needs are constantly increasing. Not that complicated. They're just staying ahead of the game.
 

Whitbane

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Better to upgrade now before the increasing file sizes forces them to. Just a precaution to stay ahead of the curve.

But with my really craptastic internet, 25mb/sec would be a godsend.
 

Azure-Supernova

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I guess for people who download all of their games digitally via Steam, D2D, Impulse etc. it's really handy. Also two or three of my friends are in game design and are frequently downloading eachother's work, usually rather large files.

Sure it's situational, but the only reason there isn't an application for it yet is because it's not widespread enough. Once the whole world it operating at these speeds there'll be more uses for the speed.
 

Lucem712

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It would be nice if you're a PC gamer and don't have to wait hours for your 16 GB game to download. Or if you download fresh installs of linux distros, it can be done right away. Also, streaming and that new video games service OnLive?

The internet is always changing, you never know when that might be useful.
 

Zantos

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I think the main consideration is shared housing. If you have 1 person wanting to play online or stream, you don't need ultra fast. You get 3 or 4 people all wanting to do it at the same time and you need something to pick up the pace. They're constantly having to upgrade infrastructure where I live to account for the number of students. Apparently shared student housing has the highest demand, which is something that makes sense the more I think about it.
 

Realitycrash

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
Because the streaming needs are constantly increasing. Not that complicated. They're just staying ahead of the game.
How are they increased? Streaming videos will probably remain the same for years, or what am I missing?

Whitbane said:
Better to upgrade now before the increasing file sizes forces them to. Just a precaution to stay ahead of the curve.

But with my really craptastic internet, 25mb/sec would be a godsend.
But what filesizes might these be, for the average non-gaming user? This wasn't just for me, afterall, but for everyone in the entire building (i.e around 50 families, most of them elderly living alone).

Zantos said:
I think the main consideration is shared housing. If you have 1 person wanting to play online or stream, you don't need ultra fast. You get 3 or 4 people all wanting to do it at the same time and you need something to pick up the pace. They're constantly having to upgrade infrastructure where I live to account for the number of students. Apparently shared student housing has the highest demand, which is something that makes sense the more I think about it.
Well, sure, but this isn't a shared housing, nor is it all that common overall where I live.
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
I guess for people who download all of their games digitally via Steam, D2D, Impulse etc. it's really handy. Also two or three of my friends are in game design and are frequently downloading eachother's work, usually rather large files.

Sure it's situational, but the only reason there isn't an application for it yet is because it's not widespread enough. Once the whole world it operating at these speeds there'll be more uses for the speed.
Wait, Doesn't Steam limit connection speeds to 2 meg, because that's all i got when downloading games, and i have a 14meg connection.

Also, I believe certain sites put a cap on download speeds if I'm not mistaken.
 

Realitycrash

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Jazoni89 said:
Azure-Supernova said:
I guess for people who download all of their games digitally via Steam, D2D, Impulse etc. it's really handy. Also two or three of my friends are in game design and are frequently downloading eachother's work, usually rather large files.

Sure it's situational, but the only reason there isn't an application for it yet is because it's not widespread enough. Once the whole world it operating at these speeds there'll be more uses for the speed.
Wait, Doesn't Steam limit connection speeds to 2 meg, because that's all i got when downloading games, and i have a 14meg connection.

Also, I believe certain sites put a cap on download speeds if I'm not mistaken.
Almost all third-party streaming-sites put a cap on streaming/downloading-speed unless you pay a membership-fee.
 

Bad Jim

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Jazoni89 said:
Doesn't Steam limit connection speeds to 2 meg, because that's all i got when downloading games, and i have a 14meg connection.
I have an 8 meg connection, and my Steam downloads are at 8 meg or so. You might find your ISP is doing it.
 

Esotera

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For absurdly fast download times!

It was pretty much impossible to stream live video ten years ago via the internet, now it's very much possible. Who knows what we'll be able to do in ten years time? And it'll be even quicker to download existing media.

Also, most internet speeds are advertised as 'up to', which means on average you get way less. So it might be worth upgrading.
 

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Realitycrash said:
How are they increased? Streaming videos will probably remain the same for years, or what am I missing?
The growing popularity and availability of HD streams.
 

Kahldris71

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I hate everyone here, i live in Canada and the best plan i can get is over 100 bucks a month with 2 meg speed and a 200gb download limit.

capcha make haste... oh go to hell lol
 

Realitycrash

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targren said:
Realitycrash said:
How are they increased? Streaming videos will probably remain the same for years, or what am I missing?
The growing popularity and availability of HD streams.
Eh, before Megavideo went down, I streamed it at HD just fine with 25mbit/Sec.
 

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Kahldris71 said:
I hate everyone here, i live in Canada and the best plan i can get is over 100 bucks a month with 2 meg speed and a 200gb download limit.

capcha make haste... oh go to hell lol
..Seriously, is that near any urban center, or "out in the woods"? Because 100 bucks for 2meg is fucking laughable.
 

Weaver

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Well, I probably have 600 gigs worth of games on Steam, so a fast internet would really help that :p
 

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Realitycrash said:
Kahldris71 said:
I hate everyone here, i live in Canada and the best plan i can get is over 100 bucks a month with 2 meg speed and a 200gb download limit.

capcha make haste... oh go to hell lol
..Seriously, is that near any urban center, or "out in the woods"? Because 100 bucks for 2meg is fucking laughable.
Hope not. Canadian here. I'm paying $60 CAD a month for 25/MBit and no bandwidth cap.
Our infastructure is overpriced and owned my only 2 companies who will never get stuck with monopoly laws because they're best buddies with the CRTC. But 100 bucks for 2/MB is atrocious.
 

Azure-Supernova

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Jazoni89 said:
Azure-Supernova said:
I guess for people who download all of their games digitally via Steam, D2D, Impulse etc. it's really handy. Also two or three of my friends are in game design and are frequently downloading eachother's work, usually rather large files.

Sure it's situational, but the only reason there isn't an application for it yet is because it's not widespread enough. Once the whole world it operating at these speeds there'll be more uses for the speed.
Wait, Doesn't Steam limit connection speeds to 2 meg, because that's all i got when downloading games, and i have a 14meg connection.

Also, I believe certain sites put a cap on download speeds if I'm not mistaken.
I'm sure there's a cap, but it's certainly not 2mbps. I've 4mbps in optimal conditions.