Abuse vs Equality

[oppp7]

One of the webcomics I read, Digger, presented female on male spouse abuse pretty well.

OT: We have stereotypes in culture. Women are 'inferior' and 'weak' compared to men, so when they hit guys it 'never does any damage' and 'is more lighthearted' compared to vice versa. The same goes for several other crimes, such as female on female or female on male rape, since they 'can't hurt the victims'. The people that let these stereotypes go and influence the punishment for crimes/whatever are either morons or pussies who don't want to look chuvenistic.

 

[Mechsoap]

its a stupid thing about its okay for a girl to hit a boy, but a boy who hits a girl is shunned, firstly would be a good thing to stop beating our own kin and start seeing the greater good (kudos for reference)

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

It's a double standard that will probably always exist. Women can talk shit and not worry about a thing.

I was at a concert once and the moshpit was really out of hand. This one girl was literally just punching smaller girls who were just standing in the crowd watching the band. I got inbetween them and pushed her away. She then tried to punch me in the face so I ducked and pushed her away again. Then 2 guys who were at least 4 inches taller than me (I'm 6'3) came and grabbed me and threw me out of the building. I got thrown out for trying to protect women because I pushed 1.

 

[Something Amyss]

I don't follow garbage TV, and I STILL want to hit Snookie.

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Okay, seriously, folks. I'm 6'5" I'm not even like, really strong or anything (being an RPG fan, I am vulnerable to light and exercise), but when I get into a fight, I'm almost always assumed to be the perpetrator. And I don't really hit people that often.

Now, say I got into a fight with a pro wrestler, where my height would barely put me to "average." Doesn't matter who started it, the bigger brawler's going to be held accountable. Even if I started a fight with Paul Wight (The Big Show from WWE). If someone with a 50% weight advantage screws me up because I tried to clock him, it's generally considered to be his fault.

Like I said, I don't follow this tripe normally, so I had to go look for video footage. The guy looks like he's pretty big and well built, all things considered, and it looks like he literally just punches Snookie out of nowhere. Male or Female, if you have to punch someone because they say something mean, you have problems. If you attack someone significantly smaller than you, you have problems. And if you attack someone for talking smack when you're a dick....

and that's what the reports seem to say. He started the altercation, then he punched the little twit.

Yeah. Let's get behind this guy as a victim.

Playground fights are probably a different matter. But even then, there will not be equal protection for people of different sizes.

This isn't really "equality gone awry."

I feel your "pain," guys, but try and have a little dignity about a dude attacking someone much smaller than him.

 

[Lazarus Long]

I'm torn between my intellect telling me that equality means no special privileges, and my Southern Gentleman upbringing telling me that women are special, magical creatures to be treated like the last unicorn.
I know that violence is a last resort option, but some people are just determined to start a fight. The truth is, women are just as gentle, brutish, brilliant, and stupid as men. I still like to think that asshole women are the minority, though. Can't help it. Call me an old-fashioned sexist, but the chivalry is kind of built in.

 

[TheSentinel]

"WHY CAN'T I HIT WOMEN?"

Oh, hey. It's you. You already got told this once, on a different site. So I will repeat it here. You cannot hit women. Ever. You should not hit anyone. Ever. Snooki didn't get arrested for getting punched in the face after calling someone a mean word? I'd say that is fair.

 

[infinity_turtles]

Women being generally physically weaker is not a stereotype. It's genetics. If it wasn't true sports wouldn't be separated by gender. Women are not weak or fragile but generally they are weaker and more fragile in comparison to men.

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If a woman ever assaults you and she isn't some kind of kung fu wizard or a testosterone freak just try to push her away without bashing her teeth in.

Yeah, because you always know what someone assaulting you is capable of. Even if they aren't a "kung fu wizard or testosterone freak", it isn't at all difficult to cause someone permanent damage. It's not hard to say, grab a finger and mangle it beyond use. Or stomp hard enough on someones foot to screw with the way they walk.(I got taken off the track team in Middleschool because some prick fucked my foot up bad enough that I can't sprint anymore) Human beings in general, not just women, are fragile. Punching is fairly safe, in terms of acts of violence, but from my experience woman like to claw at people when they attack them.

But really, that's not the point. The point is why should a guy who attacks someone get the hell beaten out of them while women just get pushed aside. Same action, same consequences.

 

[Zorg Machine]

I see it like this, guys get harsh penalties if we hit women because they "are made differently" and are not as physically strong as guys. However, if you refuse to employ a woman in a job that requires heavy lifting because they "are made differently" and are not as physically strong as guys. It means that you are a sexist and you get harsh penalties.

The only way to win (or lose less) is to be perfectly nice to all women and treat them like the divine queens that they really are because, isn't that what equality is all about?

 

[PoliceBox63]

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I totally agree with you. Excellent post.
Some people who campaign for women being treated as equals and whatnot (I'm not trying to generalise) are the same people who say man on woman violence in situations such as these is "disturbing", "disgusting", "inhuman" etc. I hate it. As I have said before in a related thread, I will defend myself if a man or woman continually physically or verbally abuses me.

 

[AdmanUK]

Yeah there was a girl in my primary school who used to kick guys in the shins because they couldn't hit her back. I find the best way to defend myself against these psycho-bitches is to humiliate them by reminding them how much stronger you are, a good arm lock or bear hug is good enough so long as it doesn't hurt them.

 

[Lieju]

Neither physical or emotional abuse is ok, and no matter how strong you are physically, it's not okay. It's not okay for a man to hit a woman, and it's equally wrong for a woman to hit a man. I'm annoyed by this attitude that women being punched is somehow worse than men being hurt. And I feel sorry for boys who grow up in an environment where they are expected to be tough and take part in fights.

I got bullied by both girls and boys in school. I honestly didn't mind the girls not playing with me, and talking bad things about me, since I didn't care.

On the other hand, being beat up by the boys hurt. Having your stuff stolen by them and them teasing you with it was worse than any emotional abuse I got, but I'm by nature someone who doesn't care about what people say.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

I no difference between hitting a man or a women. If they had it coming (like for instance, they've already hit you) then whether or not they have a penis shouldn't be a factor. Whether they're weaker may, but gender =/= strength. Plus the best way to stop sexism is to stop looking a sex first. By not hitting a women who has assualting you because she is a women is performing a sexist act. And if you want to be exempt from violence due to your womanhood, then prepare to get the whole "Women are delicate flowers that must be protected constantly" package, because I don't sell them both to the same person.

 

[Cheesus333]

I suppose it's about time I made myself a little rule for this sort of thing.

If someone does something that makes you want to hit them, let it slide. If they do it again, tell them. If they do it again, hit them.

That's reasonable, right?