I think all assassins just try to look as cool as as possible while assassing so they dress in badass clothes and make everything baddass
AC3 Connor's outfit = pretty ridiculous
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It's a very fine line what screws up the players suspension of disbelief, especially in this shiny new(ish) generation. If something isn't consistent in the game world, it'll stand out more. Like snow white robes in a green forest.FranBunnyFFXII said:
OT: This is yet another reason I enjoyed the first couple of hours more than the rest of the game. At least the character looked like he belonged.
Yeah, all assassins seem to have that problem, I choose to view it as the Animus spicing things up a bit by adding some aesthetic value to what they are actually wearing. I mean, every game past the first one (I think) allows you to change Ezio's costume to whatever the hell you want, including wearing a Desmond suit, so I feel it works.
I think Altair's excuse is that he could be mistaken for a priest or something, as shown in that one assassination where the paranoid bastard was killing them off for their hoods.
With Ezio, I think flamboyance would have been more in-context, and he may blend in by virtue of the surroundings being generally colourful as well. Which is fair enough. You'd still notice him in real life but my suspension of disbelief allows it.
With Connor, you see absolutely no-one else wearing a white hood, let alone the rest. He's dintinctive even among military dress. What's more, he's massive, the people he's walking with are plain, the streets are open and the colours are dull. He wouldn't even be that hard to spot in the forest. With some alternate outfits, like Boston, it's a bit better. But still, no-one outside of the military is dressed in that kind of attire, and on top of that he's a native Indian.
With Ezio, I think flamboyance would have been more in-context, and he may blend in by virtue of the surroundings being generally colourful as well. Which is fair enough. You'd still notice him in real life but my suspension of disbelief allows it.
With Connor, you see absolutely no-one else wearing a white hood, let alone the rest. He's dintinctive even among military dress. What's more, he's massive, the people he's walking with are plain, the streets are open and the colours are dull. He wouldn't even be that hard to spot in the forest. With some alternate outfits, like Boston, it's a bit better. But still, no-one outside of the military is dressed in that kind of attire, and on top of that he's a native Indian.
connors outfit annoys me ALOT less than Ezios in Brotherhood...god I hated that rediculous thingWolfThomas said:
.....not sure why..its truw that it sticks out to redicuous levels..its actually not so bad aside from the "coat tails" (and hood)...
when I first playes AC3 I actually I wished I could be dressed like Haythem for the whole thing, I liked an assasin who really WAS inconspicuous
with altair its the most practical since in a crowd during that time he's nto that conspicuous...Ezio a little less but still plausable...Radoh said:
More practical would be regular clothes with an overcoat, tricorn hat and wig. It could still retain the assassin colours. Something that could be swapped very quickly to change appearance. His colouring is an advantage if not covered in Native American stuff, as he could pass as an Italian or Spaniard, or as a mixed blood slave. I'd love to be able to apply disguises like a beard with spirit gum.MeChaNiZ3D said:
Yeah, they should make Assassin's all grey and brown so nothing would stand out. It would be more consistent with this generation's graphics.AgentLampshade said:
OT: I honestly don't care much. The fact that no-one is able to pick out the assassins in any of the games seems strange to me. It's not like they're actually disguised or something.
If we're really going into it, would a Nobleman really walk alone in a crowded street and stalk someone? Nope. Would the monks who always walk in one big crowd wander off for no reason carrying a sword? The mercenary is the only one that would make sense to pass without too much notice.
lmaorhizhim said:maybe they think that someone so flamboyant and extrovert couldnt be possibly be an assassin since those sneaky bastards are like ninjas and everyone knows that they want to blend in the mass and be "invisible".
so it is practically reverse psychology.
shut up! it works.....in that universe..
you there beggar! you are not suspicious enough, therefore you must be an assassin! prepare to die!
Ill say this Im glad for connors outfit I HATED Ezios big ass clothing in bro and rev. It was so bulky compared to the lean mean machine that was altair.
The series has always taken a "its a video game, deal with it" approach to why no one looks at Altair, Ezio, or Connor, and doesn't just immediately throw them in jail for carrying an army's worth of weapon racks on their backs. I guess the same could be said for Agent 47's barcode on his head, or Sam Fisher's glowing goggles, its just sorta what they do.
Connor's attire in colonial America does seem more out of place than the other games though, i'll grant you that.
Connor's attire in colonial America does seem more out of place than the other games though, i'll grant you that.
It's a strange case. Altair's outfit, while certainly distinctive, still resempled the day clothes of some people in the setting of his game, and it wasn't overly flashy or over-designed; it was a fairly practical and comfortable garment, which could concievably make him inconspicious under the right circumstances (assuming that the weapons were done away with).
Ezio's first (ACII) outfit actually seemed to be the most inconspicious one of all, as it was essentially a nice shirt with long tails and a hood. It didn't look all that obvious at first glance, and it was fairly low-key as far as Assassin outfits go. The only things that made it stand out were the extra flourishes (including the Assassin logo) and, of course, the weapons. Weirdly, Ezio's second and third outfits (I'm discounting Altair's armor and the Armor of Brutus as those have really no excuse) seem to take a lot from Altair's outfit, which would be fine, if clothing styles had not changed in the intervening centuries. As it stands, the Brotherhood and Revelations outfits are rather obvious to anyone's eye, Ezio comes off as more Zorro or Batman rather than sneaky Assassin. Still, though, a constant of Ezio's outfits is his ability to dye them, and that alone may help explain why he doesn't stand out as much; he can make his outfit just as colorful as the ones people around him are wearing. Still doesn't change the shape and profile, but it's something.
And that brings us to Connor, who has literally no excuse, save for the fact that his white coat can help him stay hidden in the snow. Hoods have really gone out of style by his time, and all of his little affectations, such as his deerskin boots or his feathers, kind of make the whole "pass myself off as an Italian or Spaniard" story hard to swallow. He's really just too flashy, too garish, for his surroundings. Ezio at least was flashy in personality and the Reneaissance was garish in terms of fashion, but Colonial America just doesn't have the same aesthetic sensibilities. Haytham, on the other hand, Haytham knows how to dress properly for his line of work. He probably has the best outfit of any playable character in the AC series, including Altair. He manages to find a sweet spot in the difficult juggling act of outfits: his getup manages to be classy, badass, and subtle. He realistically can be counted on to appear inconspicouus in his surroundings; he's almost like the James Bond of his era in that regard, he dresses stylishly but still can walk around without drawing too many awkward stares. Plus, he also uses disguises a lot more than other protagonists, which is another reason why he comse off as the least conspicious and (ironically) the most "assassin-like" playable character.
Ezio's first (ACII) outfit actually seemed to be the most inconspicious one of all, as it was essentially a nice shirt with long tails and a hood. It didn't look all that obvious at first glance, and it was fairly low-key as far as Assassin outfits go. The only things that made it stand out were the extra flourishes (including the Assassin logo) and, of course, the weapons. Weirdly, Ezio's second and third outfits (I'm discounting Altair's armor and the Armor of Brutus as those have really no excuse) seem to take a lot from Altair's outfit, which would be fine, if clothing styles had not changed in the intervening centuries. As it stands, the Brotherhood and Revelations outfits are rather obvious to anyone's eye, Ezio comes off as more Zorro or Batman rather than sneaky Assassin. Still, though, a constant of Ezio's outfits is his ability to dye them, and that alone may help explain why he doesn't stand out as much; he can make his outfit just as colorful as the ones people around him are wearing. Still doesn't change the shape and profile, but it's something.
And that brings us to Connor, who has literally no excuse, save for the fact that his white coat can help him stay hidden in the snow. Hoods have really gone out of style by his time, and all of his little affectations, such as his deerskin boots or his feathers, kind of make the whole "pass myself off as an Italian or Spaniard" story hard to swallow. He's really just too flashy, too garish, for his surroundings. Ezio at least was flashy in personality and the Reneaissance was garish in terms of fashion, but Colonial America just doesn't have the same aesthetic sensibilities. Haytham, on the other hand, Haytham knows how to dress properly for his line of work. He probably has the best outfit of any playable character in the AC series, including Altair. He manages to find a sweet spot in the difficult juggling act of outfits: his getup manages to be classy, badass, and subtle. He realistically can be counted on to appear inconspicouus in his surroundings; he's almost like the James Bond of his era in that regard, he dresses stylishly but still can walk around without drawing too many awkward stares. Plus, he also uses disguises a lot more than other protagonists, which is another reason why he comse off as the least conspicious and (ironically) the most "assassin-like" playable character.
I agree. And something I would have liked even more would be to be able to use items like hats and coats that your people make. I find myself often wondering why I can skin all these different animals and make all these various clothes and what they amount to is another sundry thing to sell.WolfThomas said:
Captcha: check your coat. Well I'll be.
In the novels Ezio's assassin robes are purely ceremonial and he actually dresses more practically the majority of the time, and in the fluff material in the games it's straight-up stated that the Animus does simplify and exaggerate certain aspects of the ancestor's memory to make the experience more convienent for the user, translating non-english languages in AC and ACII and simplifying the colony's monetary system to use nothing but pounds when IRL colonial America's bartering system was... Chaotic, to say the least are the biggest standout examples that come to mind immediately, so I think you're on to something there.Scow2 said:
No, the closest you can get to getting to wear that outfit on land is with the 'Captain of the Aquila' pre-order outfit, which in spite of what many say is not an exact copy, but is rather a much more grandiose variant on it. In layman's terms, his sailing outfit is something a ship captain would wear, while the CotA outfit looks like something a nobleman would wear, knee-high socks and everything.hazabaza1 said:
Frankly, it makes me sick that they made the goddamned prisoner outfit equippable after you complete Sequence 8... But not the nice Mercenary outfit you wear for that one mission.
Seriously, who the fuck would want to wear the prisoner outfit after you finally manage to get your robes back!? 'Tis bloody absurd...