Accidental Cleanliness Destroys $1.1m Art Installation

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Koroviev

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Never have been a big fan of latter-day hipster art. How much "art" can stake its claim to existence on irony?
 
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Koroviev said:
Never have been a big fan of latter-day hipster art. How much "art" can stake its claim to existence on irony?
I'd tell you, but it's a number you've probably never heard of.
 
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Hero in a half shell said:
I hate to say it, as it is quite a cliched meme... but

AND NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST!

The thing is, I think the fact the cleaning lady destroyed the art piece because she thought it was trash gives bigger pause for thought than whatever the stupid thing was supposed to represent. Well done. She should get a raise.

(also £1.1 million? are you kidding me? that means someone decided the cheap wood trellis and dried paint was worth more than all the property on my Street. Reign your neck in.)
aha ninja'd by the one with the ninja turtle avatar...

ninjeption? (inception...)


OT: really? that is what art is? good grief come take the sap filled wood pile from out back, it looks better than that 1st grade piece of trash.
 

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Fawxy said:
Gasaraki said:
ITT: WAAAAAAH THIS ISN'T ART BECAUSE A JANITOR DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, BUT MAH GAEMZORS SHOULD BE ART BECAUSE OMGDECENTSTORYIT'SSOAWESOMEYEAH!

Seriously guys?
If someone as creatively devoid as I am could slap together an exact copy of this piece of 'art' in less than an afternoon's time, you'd have to believe the 'art' doesn't have very much artistic merit.

It's a shitty pile of scrapwood with a pretentious explanation attached to it. If that's what is considered 'art', then I don't WANT games to be considered art.
Modern art is about concept. You could hammer out a replica of this, but you'd just be copying the artist's idea, which is what the work is really about.
 

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The art itself looks like a piece of shit but you'd think that someone who made this/exhibiting it would SPECIFICALLY instruct any staff about details about it so as not to fuck anything up, but whatever.

The poor poor artist will have to just make that piece of shi-I mean artwork again wont they -_-
 

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sir.rutthed said:
Honestly, I'm surprised something like this hasn't happened before. Or maybe it was...

Swept under the rug?
They once did "renovate" a modern art painting with a paint roller. That was pretty hilarious.
 

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Gasaraki said:
ITT: WAAAAAAH THIS ISN'T ART BECAUSE A JANITOR DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, BUT MAH GAEMZORS SHOULD BE ART BECAUSE OMGDECENTSTORYIT'SSOAWESOMEYEAH!

Seriously guys?
Well, I've never seen anyone look at a gameplay video of Mass Effect and think "Oh, the TV is off, I might as well unplug it.

Within a Game you can find orchestral level soundtracks:


stunning visuals:




Oscar worthy story moments: Modern Warfare's original nuke scene:
(Unfortunately much of the real impact of this moment is lost because the video medium it is shown in lacks the interactivity and therefore character investment you can get in games. That's right, I just said games have an artistic advantage towards film in creating empathy with protagonists, and are naturally therefore a better medium for getting across certain messages and themes.)

Other moments include (but are in no way limited to: FF7, Aeris' death, and KOTOR, Revan's revelation
Literature level character development: (Cast of the Brothers In Arms Franchise)


and even political and Philosophical commentaries can be expressed in games: (Bioshock's take on Ayn Rand, Braid's twist on heroes and villains)

Although these individual elements all exist in different games, and there are compelling arguments as to why videogames aren't quite art yet, The argument for videogames being art is much stronger than most of what passes for "modern art" today.
 
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Gasaraki said:
Fawxy said:
Gasaraki said:
ITT: WAAAAAAH THIS ISN'T ART BECAUSE A JANITOR DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, BUT MAH GAEMZORS SHOULD BE ART BECAUSE OMGDECENTSTORYIT'SSOAWESOMEYEAH!

Seriously guys?
If someone as creatively devoid as I am could slap together an exact copy of this piece of 'art' in less than an afternoon's time, you'd have to believe the 'art' doesn't have very much artistic merit.

It's a shitty pile of scrapwood with a pretentious explanation attached to it. If that's what is considered 'art', then I don't WANT games to be considered art.
Modern art is about concept. You could hammer out a replica of this, but you'd just be copying the artist's idea, which is what the work is really about.
I should be in for some money then, because I'm pretty sure that my old shed looked like that piece of arse, and the artist copied my idea to build the shed like that...
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Koroviev said:
Never have been a big fan of latter-day hipster art. How much "art" can stake its claim to existence on irony?
I'd tell you, but it's a number you've probably never heard of.
Do it. My mind hasn't been blown in a while.
 

Koroviev

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Daystar Clarion said:
Koroviev said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Koroviev said:
Never have been a big fan of latter-day hipster art. How much "art" can stake its claim to existence on irony?
I'd tell you, but it's a number you've probably never heard of.
Do it. My mind hasn't been blown in a while.
Eleventy...

Batrillion...

Thousand.

Yeah.
*BOOM*

And to think (with the remaining fragments of my mind) that hipsters have the capability to reproduce (too mainstream?).
 

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and yet, the custodians don't go throwing Picasso's into the trash. Guess they knew this one was garbage.
 
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Koroviev said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Koroviev said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Koroviev said:
Never have been a big fan of latter-day hipster art. How much "art" can stake its claim to existence on irony?
I'd tell you, but it's a number you've probably never heard of.
Do it. My mind hasn't been blown in a while.
Eleventy...

Batrillion...

Thousand.

Yeah.
*BOOM*

And to think (with the remaining fragments of my mind) that hipsters have the capability to reproduce (too mainstream?).
I think they reproduce through mytosis.

One individual can only contain so much pretentious douchebaggery, so when the individual reaches it's peak, it splits off into another individual.

That would probably explain why they all look alike.
 

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the thing is.... that is only worth 1.1m because of the fact that that museum bought it for 1.1m, doesnt mean its visually or artistically worth 1.1m, its just the owner of the museum bought it for that much, and probably will(or would have, LOL) only sold it for more then 1.1m. something physical is only monetarily as valuable as someone will pay for it :p

if i bled on a stick and sold it for 1.1m, evidently it must be worth that much(?)
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
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(also £1.1 million? are you kidding me? that means someone decided the cheap wood trellis and dried paint was worth more than all the property on my Street. Reign your neck in.)
Art is more or less about the name attached than anything else.

OT: this only makes me think of how many plumbers looked at duchamps fountain and said I could fix that right up.
 

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Gasaraki said:
ITT: WAAAAAAH THIS ISN'T ART BECAUSE A JANITOR DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, BUT MAH GAEMZORS SHOULD BE ART BECAUSE OMGDECENTSTORYIT'SSOAWESOMEYEAH!

Seriously guys?
...or they looked at a picture of it and thought 'wow, that looks like a waste of wood' That's what I did anyway.
 

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Martin Creed's "The Lights Going On And Off" is a completely empty room, that every 5 seconds switches between the lights being on and the lights being off.

It won the Turner Prize in 2001.

Now let me direct you to this article.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113976-BBC-Debate-Games-Arent-Art-Yet

"I'd suggest that the things we really consider art are the things that allow us to ask profound questions about who we are, how we live and the state of the world around us."

An empty room can make people ask profound questions about the world, and apparently no game has yet.

What i'm trying to say is fuck modern art.