Ad blocking is the same as game pirecy
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Aaaaaand this is where the thread could have stopped forever, because nothing more needs to be said.migo said:
First things first, fixing the grammar would prove that would actually like people to be able to legibly read and understand your point and position, not take a guess at it from malformed English. It would prove that you believe in your argument, not just forcing us in good nature to take the best version of your argument, which is more than likely not the intended one. Secondly, it's a period or a full stop not a dot. There are plenty of ASCII characters that can be referred to as a dot, the period for clarity's sake is NOT one of them. Thirdly, while it's just a word, it is still a sentence, albeit a malformed one. The period or full stop indicates the end of sentences, thus he was correct in adding it. Not adding it would imply that he has not finished said sentence.ionveau said:
Now back to your original post, what in god's name are you on? Ignoring all the moral and ethical things wrong with this argument; there is a major technical difference here, when you pay for a game you are not opening your computer up to virus's, ad-ware, Trojan horses nor are you giving out personal identifiable information without your consent. On top of that, you aren't automatically using your Internet bandwidth (although that is changing sadly), you aren't making the game take longer to load, you aren't putting a noisy, flashy, distracting item, next to or in the game.
... I could go on, but your not going to listen and so I don't feel like wasting my energy. To sum, your argument is flawed, get the hell off the drugs. Also, your attitude is absolutely horrendous. Somebody telling you that your grammar needs to be fixed, does not mean they expect you to be an "obedient little dog". It means that for clarity's sake you need to fix your argument. In this instance, he shouldn't of needed to tell you. With the incredible amount of grammar and spelling mistake's riddling your post, you either need to go back to school or finish school or try to get your IQ up to that of the average human. It is scary, and an indication of the failure in society when we get people like you who think writing like this is okay.
To give you an idea of just how those two sentences should have gone, no matter how wrong they are.
"Well I am not going to bother seeing as you copied the whole post, fixing the grammar would only show im an obedient little dog.
There is no point in adding a period as it's just one word, just saying."
Changes are in bold. They are by no means the end, as there are far more edits to be made. However I stopped there since doing as such would break it out of slang you have left it in and take it a more formal level.
As a side note, I don't block ads.
[HEADING=3]The last time people talked about ad blockers, there were bans... at least 20 per page. Watch what you say people.[/HEADING]
OT: I have no ads here, and even then I NEVER click ads. They appear, and for that slight revenue is earned but I do not click on them. Sort of a policy.
Calumon: Most of them want me to do something and win a phone.
OT: I have no ads here, and even then I NEVER click ads. They appear, and for that slight revenue is earned but I do not click on them. Sort of a policy.
Calumon: Most of them want me to do something and win a phone.
That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle643yzv8u]ionveau said:
Want to waste my bandwidth and drain the battery in my laptop faster? You can pay me to look at your ads. Meanwhile, here in the real world, I will continue using Adblock Plus, Flashblock, RequestPolicy, NoScript, Greasemonkey, and whatever the hell else I need to stop all these crappy sites from trying to kill and eat my browser. I won't even get into the security and privacy issues with some of the particularly sketchy ads and other junk thrown into some sites. I have no problem with paying for things (I still buy all my games despite being unemployed, for example, although I generally have to wait until they're on sale pretty cheap at the moment). I do have a problem with stuff that makes my web browsing experience substantially worse in multiple ways.
Edit: I suppose it's mildly hypocritical to say that and not have subscribed to The Escapist so far, but I wouldn't have a problem with doing that if I actually had any sort of regular income, which I don't quite yet.
If you post a wall of text with no grammar, I'm not going to read it. Fix it up please.
I guess I agree with you on your basis, however. Companies make money from games and companies make money from ads.
I guess I agree with you on your basis, however. Companies make money from games and companies make money from ads.
It's incredibly risky not to use some form of ad and script blocker these days. Many advertisers put malicious scripts and other malware into their ads, and most websites don't check them ahead of time. They rely on their users to contract the malware, then report it so they can then ask the advertisers to remove it. People who block ads, scripts, etc. are cutting out the middlemen and saving their computers at the same time. Also, there's little point for people who never click on ads NOT to block them. Just makes sense to me.
Indeed, my account was one that was banned. Kind of interesting... That just 'talking' about removing ads is grounds for banning.Jack and Calumon said:
That being said, Ad blocking the same as piracy? Really? Are we taking that a little to far, persay? Ad blocking, yes, isn't good for the website, it won't get them their income. But, piracy? Piracy is much worse. Ad blocking removes a few ads from a page. Piracy involves illegally downloading a movie or song or video game or whathaveyou... Not that I'm saying there isn't a lot of work going into 1. The Webpage and 2. The banner ads, but I'm guessing a lot more effort goes into that song or that movie or that video game or that whathaveyou. (Especially that last one.) Plus, I think the average hollywood movie has upward of about 100-500 names attached to it.
I mean... Actually... It might be pretty close to piracy. After writing all this, it seems very similar. You're stealing the content by refusing to pay the income. Hmm... It could go either way.
Gonna play Devil's advocate for a bit.marurder said:
1. Its a conscious decision to visit a website
2. Nobody forces you to click a link
3. You can pretty much tell when an ad is probably unsavory. (Unless...grandma? Is that you?)
4. I think the connection between the two is this: How can you justify denying revenue from one source of media (adblocking on websites) but to deny revenue from another is deplorable (piracy).
I am an Experimental Psychology masters student, planning an investigation that will employ online forums in the next year. It will not be my intention to do much in the way of trolling.Bek359 said:
Yes, but I assume that you don't TELL people that they're part of an experiment, in order that the data will not be corrupted. If someone says it the way this guy does, that just means they're a trolling douche trying to feel all high and mighty and pretentious.dietpeachsnapple said:
On the contrary, participant consent is a mandatory component to any psychological experiment one seeks to have any reception in the scientific community. The only exception is when deception is in order, in which case there is a debriefing at the end of the process.Bek359 said:
All right, yes, that is indeed correct. The message I wa trying to get across was that anyone who comes into a forum, says something inflammatory and idiotic, and then uses the words "psychological experiment" is obviously a troll. Seriously, it's what they actually say oftentimes.dietpeachsnapple said:
Just aghrhghgfhg. "Potential ad clicks"?! If you use a adblocker you don't give a shit about them in the first place.
Also piracy. Pirated Minecraft, costs barley anything, because I'm too young to legally have a creditcard and my parents refuse to get one. Showed Minecraft to some friends and after a week of whining at one of them they also bought it for me. In the end it was one pirated copy = six sales.
Also piracy. Pirated Minecraft, costs barley anything, because I'm too young to legally have a creditcard and my parents refuse to get one. Showed Minecraft to some friends and after a week of whining at one of them they also bought it for me. In the end it was one pirated copy = six sales.