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ItouKaiji said:
American Psycho the movie is superior to American Psycho the book. The movie gets across the exact same themes and concepts without having to repeat everything three or more times. The movie also thankfully refrains from having Batemen describe his boner as massive about five hundred times. The movie adapts the best scenes from the book while combining bunch of repetitive scenes into new scenes are that are effective.
Aw man, you stole mine! Dang.

Others? Hmm... some of Stephen King's less horror-based work, such as Stand By Me, Shawshank Redemption, and the Green Mile.
 

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I'm going with the Razor's Edge. The only thing wrong with the book is that it doesn't have Bill Murray.
 

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FPLOON said:
I consider the 2003 FullMetal Alchemist anime to be better than the manga, especially when it deviated from the original source while still keeping the anime series consistent from start to finish... Then again, I could say the same about the FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood anime being better than the manga, so there's that...

Other than that, I consider Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated to be the best Scooby-Doo series adaptation to date...
This, this so hard. The first anime is way better than the manga and, by extension, Brotherhood.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
FPLOON said:
I consider the 2003 FullMetal Alchemist anime to be better than the manga, especially when it deviated from the original source while still keeping the anime series consistent from start to finish... Then again, I could say the same about the FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood anime being better than the manga, so there's that...

Other than that, I consider Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated to be the best Scooby-Doo series adaptation to date...
This, this so hard. The first anime is way better than the manga and, by extension, Brotherhood.
Oh my glob! You're the second person on this site that agrees with me about FullMetal Alchemist!
http://media0.giphy.com/media/JG4iKdJamPHNK/giphy.gif
I could fall asleep happier than usual right now...
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Hey, I only ever saw the first two episodes of the Berserk anime (long before I ever even tried the manga), and the reason I stopped watching was because I felt like I was looking at something that was 60% still frames. The art in the manga was just so good that I never felt compeled to go back to the anime. My true resentment is reserved for the recent movies.
Lol, I couldn't watch those movies either.

I do remember the show started off... not in the best quality, but I think it improved shortly after. It's been awhile since I've seen it now though.

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I liked the Manga more overall, but I think the show made small improvements. The pacing was better, for instance, and I'm glad that they cut the bit with Wyald and the sewer assasins. I also think that they did a better job of cutting down on the fantasy, so that when things DO happen it's a lot more memorable, and a lot more frightening. I wish they had cut the sub plot with Casca's period as well. Unfortunately they also cut out important moments, like Skull Knight, pieces of Guts's back story, and some of the philosophy, so it felt like they threw out the baby with the bath water, so to speak.

My ideal version of the story would probably be somewhere between the two versions.
You know what? I have forgotten all about the Skull Knight and Guts's back story. I'm going to watch and read it all again probably next weekend now because I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about anymore.
 

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FPLOON said:
crimson5pheonix said:
FPLOON said:
I consider the 2003 FullMetal Alchemist anime to be better than the manga, especially when it deviated from the original source while still keeping the anime series consistent from start to finish... Then again, I could say the same about the FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood anime being better than the manga, so there's that...

Other than that, I consider Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated to be the best Scooby-Doo series adaptation to date...
This, this so hard. The first anime is way better than the manga and, by extension, Brotherhood.
Oh my glob! You're the second person on this site that agrees with me about FullMetal Alchemist!
http://media0.giphy.com/media/JG4iKdJamPHNK/giphy.gif
I could fall asleep happier than usual right now...
If your talking about the first anime being the best thing out of all FMA then count me as your 3rd. Didn't like Brotherhood though.
 

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FPLOON said:
It's a great opinion to get lynched by. But the only nice thing I can reliably say about Brotherhood is that the animation is nice.
 

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Outright superior

-Revenge of the Sith (as in, the novelization)

-Apocalypse Now (as it was based on Heart of Darkness)

-Henry V, Othello (a bit unfair, as they follow the plays word for word, but combining those words with acting, and Kenneth Brannagh, I think these adaptations are excellent)

-Catching Fire (film adaptation)

Arguably the following:

-Resident Evil (novelization of the first film)

-Lord of the Rings trilogy (Jackson)

-Matilda (film adaptation)

Liked equally, but for different reasons:

-Game of Thrones (TV series)

-Starship Troopers (original movie)

-The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (film adaptation)
 

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Nazulu said:
FPLOON said:
crimson5pheonix said:
-This snip-
Oh my glob! You're the second person on this site that agrees with me about FullMetal Alchemist!

I could fall asleep happier than usual right now...
If your talking about the first anime being the best thing out of all FMA then count me as your 3rd. Didn't like Brotherhood though.
I think you mean my first, since you were the first one I talked to about the 2003 anime being the better version around here...
crimson5pheonix said:
FPLOON said:
It's a great opinion to get lynched by. But the only nice thing I can reliably say about Brotherhood is that the animation is nice.
I can't argue with that... Brotherhood did look stunning... And gave us this:
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FPLOON said:
I think you mean my first, since you were the first one I talked to about the 2003 anime being the better version around here...
Oh snap! Evacuating now.

Then I think Souplex would be our 3rd, if he's still around.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
FPLOON said:
Here's a question I have, what the hell was up with the animation in Sacred Star of Milos?
"Movie Production" logic, I guess? Or maybe because it was basically made in a year? I don't know...
Nazulu said:
FPLOON said:
I think you mean my first, since you were the first one I talked to about the 2003 anime being the better version around here...
Oh snap! Evacuating now.

Then I think Souplex would be our 3rd, if he's still around.
He still is... I saw his comment on another thread I commented on not long ago, actually...
 

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Fear and loathing in Las Vegas. The script of the movie is very faithful to the book, but they have the advantage of being able to actually play all the music mentioned in the book (except sympathy for the devil as they couldn't get the rights). Also the acting and the visuals are just fantastic.

FPLOON said:
Are we turning this into a FMA:Brotherhood hate thread? Cause I thought the 2003 anime was far superior.
 

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SweetShark said:
PaulH said:
Starship Troopers. I hated the book, and I found the movie fun and deceptively brilliant.
And then make a sequel, and a 3rd part.
To be fair, the 3rd movie represent the feelings of the books quit nice. But because of this you will HATE the "heroes" in the movie...
Wasn't the subtext of the third Starship Troopers movie "you're stupid if you believe in god and you're an asshole if you don't", or was that some other one I don't know about?
I mostly talking about the whole Army Propaganda and Power Thing is going on with the books. If you are part of the Military, then you are "normal". If not, then simple you are nothing. Also the army is the law, so if you do something stupid that it is related with them, you are f*cked. They are like Space-Nazis.
The first movie nearly touched this subject and the second movie didn't bother at all.
However the 3rd movie, you can see clearly the film maker wanted to make you feel that the Army actually is very, very WRONG. It had been shown a lot more than the first movie and more clear.
 

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SweetShark said:
MarsAtlas said:
SweetShark said:
PaulH said:
Starship Troopers. I hated the book, and I found the movie fun and deceptively brilliant.
And then make a sequel, and a 3rd part.
To be fair, the 3rd movie represent the feelings of the books quit nice. But because of this you will HATE the "heroes" in the movie...
Wasn't the subtext of the third Starship Troopers movie "you're stupid if you believe in god and you're an asshole if you don't", or was that some other one I don't know about?
I mostly talking about the whole Army Propaganda and Power Thing is going on with the books. If you are part of the Military, then you are "normal". If not, then simple you are nothing. Also the army is the law, so if you do something stupid that it is related with them, you are f*cked. They are like Space-Nazis.
The first movie nearly touched this subject and the second movie didn't bother at all.
However the 3rd movie, you can see clearly the film maker wanted to make you feel that the Army actually is very, very WRONG. It had been shown a lot more than the first movie and more clear.
Starship Troopers was a gigantic letdown for me. The director only focused on subtext and managed to completely forget the story aspect of the movie. There is so many inteligent parts of the movie and i love those parts, but the storyline is paper thin and the characters flatter still. I loved how it understood jingoism and the part were Rico defends the invasion by stating "I'm from Rio and I say, let's kill 'em all" hit the jackpot, just replace it with Iraq and you've got America in a nutshell: an angry, stupid boy that wants to break stuff. How could the movie go so wrong, it came from the Robocop guys, for lords sake. They made one of the best stories in any action movie.

Total Recall is a much better candidate for best adaptation. It also came from the same director.
 

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I'm not sure about "better", but I had greater enjoyment from the Fellowship of the Ring and Two Towers films than I did the books.

Way too weirdly paced, full of bad elf-songs and hobbit-shanties, the lyrics recorded over multiple pages for no discernible purpose.
Here, here! The original trilogy skips on everyone and their mother being given a song-and-dance number except for when the effect is guaranteed to be poignant (Merry's song at Minas Tirith, for instance), and most of all, we don't have any Tom Bombashit nonsense to push through.

The main problem with the books is that they're written by a war-scarred linguist and philologist trying and failing at putting suitable bedtime stories together for his kids. One moment's all "Whee, lookit the hobbits being all whimsical and shit!" and then the next you've got Nazgûl being described as post-traumatic hallucinations carved out of undead flesh and bones.

Um, consistency, Tolkien? Please?
 

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Watchmen. I don't really like the graphic novel, the characters are all too unlikeable and the ending makes no sense and there are too many wordy passages that don't add anything valuable to the story. The film was far superior as far as I'm concerned.
 

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On risk of being brutally murdered (I feel a FNAF jumpscare featuring a horde of elven-eared book purists coming up), it's both A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings for me.

ASoIaF: I liked the first three books, then master short story writer Martin kind of lost his thread a bit. In the series, the showrunners get to fix a lot of that and make everything flow a bit better. It's sort of a reverse LOST situation where the show didn't have the luxury of knowing where actually it was going, unlike ASoIaF where Martin has already tried the waters.

LotR: Don't get me wrong, without Tolkien, there wouldn't be a fantasy genre as we know it. The man has created a memorable, epic world with incredible detail and inhuman feats of world design (languages come to mind). I do however prefer Jackson's pictures to Tolkien's prose - that's not to say Tolkien is a bad writer, only that he tends to go on tangents that make his books a fairly unenjoyable read as his "world before plot before character" prioritization comes through in his writing style as well.
 

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Jaws and The Godfather are perennial examples of classic movies being made from schlocky pulp fiction. My personal example is Cloud Atlas the movie versus the book. I felt cinema did a much better job of conveying the themes and meta plot across the six vignettes that make up the story (the immediacy of film made it much easier). Contrariwise, I've only seen the first episode of the new Jonathan Strange and Mister Norrell, and as much as I liked it, it is inferior to the novel (books having the luxury of being able to digress into massive footnotes and description for the mere fun of it).