Advice for buying a New PC

[SweetShark]

So I am looking to buy a new PC, a the most important characteristic it have, are those below:
CPU: AMD FX-6350 4.20 GHz
Memory: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Disk: 240 GB SSD 1 TB HDD
VGA: AMD RX 480 8GB
Cost 999 euros

Do you think is enough to play games like DOOM [the new one] or even Dishonored 2?

Thank you for your time.

EDIT:

So After read your opinions, I decided to find something else and I found this one:
CPU: Intel Core i5 6402P 2.80 GHz
Memory: 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz
Disk: 1 TB HDD 120 GB SSD
VGA: nVidia GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB GDDR5
Cost: 799 euro


EDIT 2:

A more detailed PC I will try to built myself:


- Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit DSP
- Toshiba Desktop HDD 2TB
- TeamGroup SSD Evo L7 120GB
- TeamGroup Desktop RAM Value 8GB 2400MHz DDR4
- MSI VGA GeForce GTX 1060 OCV1 6GB
- Gigabyte Motherboard B250M DS3H (B250/1151/DDR4)
- CPU Cooler CP-1210
- Intel CPU Core i5 6500 (1151/3.2 GHz/6 MB)
- Corsair PSU CX Series 430 W CX430
- Corsair Carbide Spec-03 Blue Midi Tower

 

[Supernova1138]

I wouldn't buy anything AMD right now for CPUs. The FX 6350 is four years old and is on the verge of being replaced with something entirely new, the motherboard its on is going to be just as outdated missing a lot of newer I/O features. Assuming you don't live in a country with crazy pricing, you should be able to get something like an i3 6100 or 7100 on a B150 or B250 motherboard for a similar price, though you'd have to switch your RAM to DDR4. Either i3 will outperform the FX 6350 in pretty much everything save perhaps video encoding.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Yeah I would rethink most of this build. A lot of the hardware is quite out of date already.

If you are set on going AMD at least wait for Ryzen to be released. As Supernova said the 6350 is pretty long in the tooth and any new build I would recommend jumping on the DDR4 train- which means a new cpu and motherboard. The Rx480 is fine. I would either save up or simply spring for more for a 1070 though.

Will this PC play modern games? Yeah, but it's not worth 1000 euros by any means. Unless the euro is doing so poorly right now that it's nowhere close to the same value as $1000.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

That CPU is not gonna cut it. Not only is the CPU too slow for modern games, it's going to bottleneck the shit out of the GPU. You need at least an intel i5 or wait for AMD to release their Ryzen CPU's.

And you don't need 16Gb of RAM. 8gb will do. You can always get another 8gb later on.

 

[QuiteEnjoyed2016]

Yes, flee the CPU there, an i5 of any of the modern iterations should see you straight. A chap / chappesse up there suggested an i3, I wouldn't if you can possibly avoid myself, it will bottle neck your card. You'll find a 200GB SSD really bloody annoying after a while, bear in mind you will lose 20GB or so Windows and a bit to system on format, DOOM is 70gb at the moment... and they are still adding stuff, if you can increase to 512GB you'll be happier, I'd have thought.

 

[SweetShark]

Thank you so much you gave an informative look in my problem.
I will check for something better with your infomations.

 

[SweetShark]

Yes, flee the CPU there, an i5 of any of the modern iterations should see you straight. A chap / chappesse up there suggested an i3, I wouldn't if you can possibly avoid myself, it will bottle neck your card. You'll find a 200GB SSD really bloody annoying after a while, bear in mind you will lose 20GB or so Windows and a bit to system on format, DOOM is 70gb at the moment... and they are still adding stuff, if you can increase to 512GB you'll be happier, I'd have thought.

I don't mind a lot about the space it would have. I have a massive 4TB external hard drive, so I am cool.
I see the most people suggest an i5. Why not a i7?

 

[McElroy]

I see most people suggest an i5. Why not an i7?

The performance increase you'd get from an i7 compared to an i5 isn't cost-efficient for gaming purposes.

 

[SweetShark]

I see most people suggest an i5. Why not an i7?

The performance increase you'd get from an i7 compared to an i5 isn't cost-efficient for gaming purposes.

I see. Thank.

Btw, I just updated my OP with a new PC. Do you think is now ok?

 

[aozgolo]

I would suggest you're making a mistake by buying a pre-built PC for Gaming. I would really only recommend that if you are buying a Gaming Laptop. For the price points you have mentioned you could have a MUCH better PC by buying the parts yourself and building it.

Now I want to make it clear, the concept of building a PC sounds way more of a big deal than it is. Building a PC is pretty easy actually, you can find tons of guides online, tons of communities and people willing to help you, both from the perspective of buying parts to putting them together.

There are numerous advantages of building your own PC. The biggest one is cost, you will save hundreds of dollars and get exactly what you need. When buying a pre-built you are putting a lot of money into a brand name or into labor for assembling it for you. The other advantage is that you will learn a bit about how computers go together, which means when something goes bad or you feel the need to upgrade, you don't have to toss out the other 90% of a good computer to replace the 10% that's bad or outdated.

Building a PC is easy enough for a layman to do, even one with no prior technical knowledge. It may take longer to figure out, but you will be much more satisfied with the result. The only roadblock is knowledge, all the rest is just connecting cords and using screwdrivers, and the knowledge isn't hard to grasp.

 

[Arina Love]

Never buy a pre-built PC. It's a waste of money, especially if you on a tight budget. 1050ti is not a golden standard for value for money too, GTX 1060 (even 3gb model) is not THAT much more money and it absolutely annihilates 1050ti.


So save up and definitely go for gtx 1060 and you will be all set for 1080p high-ultra settings gaming for years to come.

SO right now i5 6500 + gtx 1060 is optimal value for money build with CLEAR upgrade path for the future. This config will play EVERYTHING you will throw at it. and when it will be time for GPU upgrade the CPU will be JUUUST fine! I mean i'm STILL on my i5 3570 doing just fine with only GPUs upgrades.

 

[aozgolo]

Also worth looking into a well-balanced PC, many people like to go all in on the Graphics Card and sell themselves short on Motherboard and CPU. There's a lot of components that go into making a Gaming PC work really well, and you don't want to get a whole bunch of cheap crap just to shove a high end GPU that you can't even take full advantage of in there.

I'm not saying a GTX 1050/1060 is really high end, it's not really but just giving advice in general about that. I'm unsure if the price difference is really noticeable but you could even go with a GTX 970/980 instead of a 10 series if you can find one cheaper, as you won't find any games out yet that you're really gonna notice the difference on, especially if you don't bother with 4K or VR.

 

[Ender910_v1legacy]

Also worth looking into a well-balanced PC, many people like to go all in on the Graphics Card and sell themselves short on Motherboard and CPU. There's a lot of components that go into making a Gaming PC work really well, and you don't want to get a whole bunch of cheap crap just to shove a high end GPU that you can't even take full advantage of in there.

Aye, I typically try to focus my build on the CPU and motherboard first, as those are the biggest pain to upgrade later on. That's largely why for the last 2-3 years I've been waiting on the Zen's release with a great deal of anticipation. Admittedly, I could've just jumped over to Intel, but I really want to see what AMD's bringing out before I make that decision.

Whatever happens with the Zen though, part of me will really miss my Phenom II x4 975. She's been a fine chip for many years.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Btw, I just updated my OP with a new PC. Do you think is now ok?

Nope. I wouldn't get an Intel CPU below 3.2Ghz these days and the GPU is not that great. Look into RX 470 4gb. It's cheaper than the 480 (obviously) but it's almost as fast.

And truly don't buy a pre-built PC. You will not get your money's worth. Assembling a PC is not rocket science. You can look at how it's done on YouTube and everything just fits naturally and intuitively. You just have to follow a few simple instructions.

 

[Worgen]

I would bump the 1050 upto at least a 1060 if you can afford it. The 50 designation on nvidia cards tends to mean low range for gaming. A 1060 won't be the best but its much more of a gaming card than the 1050 is.

This is a really nice one.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487275

 

[aozgolo]

I would bump the 1050 upto at least a 1060 if you can afford it. The 50 designation on nvidia cards tends to mean low range for gaming. A 1060 won't be the best but its much more of a gaming card than the 1050 is.

This is a really nice one.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487275

When it comes to Nvidia cards the first number is the generation, the last 2 digits is the actual tier of the card. That's why something like a GTX 780 is better for gaming than a 950, it may be an inferior generation but where it counts it doesn't have the power. If I had to choose between a 970 or a 1050, I'd go with the 970 easily, though I'd be tempted to choose the 1060 over a 970 and I believe they are at similar price points right now.

 

[Worgen]

I would bump the 1050 upto at least a 1060 if you can afford it. The 50 designation on nvidia cards tends to mean low range for gaming. A 1060 won't be the best but its much more of a gaming card than the 1050 is.

This is a really nice one.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487275

When it comes to Nvidia cards the first number is the generation, the last 2 digits is the actual tier of the card. That's why something like a GTX 780 is better for gaming than a 950, it may be an inferior generation but where it counts it doesn't have the power. If I had to choose between a 970 or a 1050, I'd go with the 970 easily, though I'd be tempted to choose the 1060 over a 970 and I believe they are at similar price points right now.

The specs on a 1060 are better than my 970. I think I would go with the 1060.

 

[Fallow]

So I am looking to buy a new PC, a the most important characteristic it have, are those below:
CPU: AMD FX-6350 4.20 GHz
Memory: 16 GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Disk: 240 GB SSD 1 TB HDD
VGA: AMD RX 480 8GB
Cost 999 euros

Do you think is enough to play games like DOOM [the new one] or even Dishonored 2?

Thank you for your time.

EDIT:

So After read your opinions, I decided to find something else and I found this one:
CPU: Intel Core i5 6402P 2.80 GHz
Memory: 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz
Disk: 1 TB HDD 120 GB SSD
VGA: nVidia GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB GDDR5
Cost: 799 euro

Wait a month until AMD releases their new line-up of CPUs. Whether or not you buy and AMD is up in the air, but it should force Intel to reduce the prices on their current line-up.

 

[aozgolo]

The specs on a 1060 are better than my 970. I think I would go with the 1060.

Right, I haven't done a side-by-side comparison, but if I were buying today I'd go with a 1060, I got my 970 about 2 years ago so before the 10 series launched, and thus far it plays everything just fine, but as mentioned the price point of both is about equal so better to get the newer model in this case.

 

[QuiteEnjoyed2016]

Yes, flee the CPU there, an i5 of any of the modern iterations should see you straight. A chap / chappesse up there suggested an i3, I wouldn't if you can possibly avoid myself, it will bottle neck your card. You'll find a 200GB SSD really bloody annoying after a while, bear in mind you will lose 20GB or so Windows and a bit to system on format, DOOM is 70gb at the moment... and they are still adding stuff, if you can increase to 512GB you'll be happier, I'd have thought.

I don't mind a lot about the space it would have. I have a massive 4TB external hard drive, so I am cool.
I see the most people suggest an i5. Why not a i7?

My point is that you'll want your SSD to have your current games on it to reduce those hateful load screens and at 200GB, with the way games are going (easily 50GB+ an install), you may end up only being able to have 2 or 3 games on there, with the issue only getting worse.

OMG, just seen you've reduced it to 120GB... I really wouldn't do that, 2 games tops, if you install to an HDD after using an SDD it will annoy you

Or maybe you are just patient, obviously just my opinion!

Think most people have explained i7 doesn't really make any (practical) difference outside video editing .

Edit - Hmmm, you need to do something about the clock speed on that CPU too IMO. I don't know how that model overclocks? I could be a bit out of touch but as far as I can remember anything below 4GHZ is a 'mare.