After playing Fallout 3 I got to thinkin

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skcseth

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Well, a DLC set in Las Vegas (or something close to it) is in the works, and it should have quite a few grandiose landmarks (Paris Hotel, Hard Rock Cafe, ect.). So I guess I'd only be looking forward to a NY-esque DLC if A. they can pull off major landmarks well and B. if the player can actually visit said landmarks (The White House in Fallout 3's main game = off limits).
 

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skcseth said:
Well, a DLC set in Las Vegas (or something close to it) is in the works, and it should have quite a few grandiose landmarks (Paris Hotel, Hard Rock Cafe, ect.). So I guess I'd only be looking forward to a NY-esque DLC if A. they can pull off major landmarks well and B. if the player can actually visit said landmarks (The White House in Fallout 3's main game = off limits).
First off fallout vegas is a sequel, secondly you can visit the white house its just radioactive.
 

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spindle said:
skcseth said:
Well, a DLC set in Las Vegas (or something close to it) is in the works, and it should have quite a few grandiose landmarks (Paris Hotel, Hard Rock Cafe, ect.). So I guess I'd only be looking forward to a NY-esque DLC if A. they can pull off major landmarks well and B. if the player can actually visit said landmarks (The White House in Fallout 3's main game = off limits).
First off fallout vegas is a sequel, secondly you can visit the white house its just radioactive.
Well radioactive = death so.. yea.

And a sequel? As in an entirely new game?? OH JOY!!!!!
 

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Gilbert Munch said:
Really, what in New York would look good destroyed?
It would look like this: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/images/groundzero.jpg

Which incidently, looks enough like this: http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/files/2008/12/fallout3.jpg

...not to matter.
 

chozo_hybrid

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Wait I don't usually care but I actually wanted to say something to the naysayers about New York.

New York is huge, but if you have ever actually been there you know there are a million and one landmarks tucked between the buildings.

There are parks, Gothic churches, a hundred unique buildings. Different districts, think Hells Kitchen and Chinatown, areas of unique ethnic origin. I mean I could go on, but just because there are only two landmarks most of you can think of off hand does not mean there is not a large and varied bulk of land to work with there.

Then there is the underground. There are miles upon miles upon miles of tunnels under the soil in New York some of it extending as deep as 500+ feet under ground. There are lost and abandoned tunnels. Hell you could make a game of exploring the underground in New York alone and not even have to worry about it being ruined.
Fair enough, I'm from New Zealand and have never been there and yet I know there are tonnes of landmarks, but how about a Fallout in a different country? It could put a massive spin on the game. Say for example Germay, Russia, France, China or Britan?

I mean the people would be different culture wise and it could bring different reactions to things as well as just a whole different landscape :)

I loved Fallout 1 + 2 + 3 and can't wait for more, no matter where it's set :)
 

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spindle said:
How about fallout: detroit, you could see how nukes can improve a landscape
Fallout: Detroit, it takes place in the futuristic year 2010, where a small band of survivalists roam the barren sparsely populated ruined city looking for a scarce and precious resource known as dollars; and always on the lookout for nightmarish ZOMBIE BANKS!
 

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Clashero said:
Again. Do people just assume Fallout 3 was the first game of the series like they did with GTA?
How does my saying of interesting places to go for a fallout game imply anything about my knowledge of the series? I know there were two games before 3, I know how to count. Though I have the feeling that fallout will probably not be going back to a top down game. Is there some reason you chose to pick me out of the crowd to imply ignorance, because I was saying only that San Fran might be an interesting place to see what survives a nuclear war like DC was.
 

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blaze96 said:
Clashero said:
Again. Do people just assume Fallout 3 was the first game of the series like they did with GTA?
How does my saying of interesting places to go for a fallout game imply anything about my knowledge of the series? I know there were two games before 3, I know how to count. Though I have the feeling that fallout will probably not be going back to a top down game. Is there some reason you chose to pick me out of the crowd to imply ignorance, because I was saying only that San Fran might be an interesting place to see what survives a nuclear war like DC was.
Perhaps you didn't notice, but if you want to explore San Francisco in a Fallout game, you needn't look any further than Fallout 2.

What does the isometric view have to do with this?

And OF COURSE I know you know that 3 wasn't the first game of the series. Christ, does everything need to be made so clear? It was a figure of speech, referring to the great amount of people who played Fallout 3 and hadn't even heard of the series up until then.
 

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Spineyguy said:
England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.
Video Games that take place in places other than America:
Farcry2
Age Of Empires 1 and 2 (the Aztec campaign takes place in Mexico, not USA)
Half-Life 2 and all sequel episodes
Bioshock
Tropico
Planescape: Torment

On-Topic: I would like to see a Fallout game set in China, because I really want to see how nuclear war affected it.
 

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Juraz said:
Fallout Australia, with Rad Emus, Kangaroos, Koalas, and of course giant snakes and spiders
umm, the fallout series is already way too dependent on the road warrior.
 

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Vendayn said:
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It's a shame they are never going to try and make a fallout MMO. You figure even with 11 million players (if it was wow sized) it would still only account for a tiny fraction of what was the global population.

I imagine they'd do it wrong though :p.
Actually...supposedly (rumors) there is going to be a fallout MMO. I know bethesda is planning to do an elder scrolls MMO too supposedly...but nothing confirmed.
I don't want an mmo of elderscrolls BUT BUT BUT! (need to quantify that statement) I DO want a multiplayer Elder Scrolls like what the fudge dude.

Once it becomes an MMO unfortunately it gets the grind strapped on it. But if it is just Multiplayer I think you have much more room to make a very exciting game.

As for a fallout MMO, if it is done properly I'd be pretty pleased I just think it'll get butchered :(. I wish my optimism wasn't so nonexistent about games anymore.
 

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Clashero said:
Perhaps you didn't notice, but if you want to explore San Francisco in a Fallout game, you needn't look any further than Fallout 2.

What does the isometric view have to do with this?

And OF COURSE I know you know that 3 wasn't the first game of the series. Christ, does everything need to be made so clear? It was a figure of speech, referring to the great amount of people who played Fallout 3 and hadn't even heard of the series up until then.
I apologize, I acted without properly thinking. My main problem was why you saw fit to quote myself rather than make a standalone post, I can be rather defensive at times. I apologize for that.

I do remember something about SF in fallout now (I read up on the story when I was brought in on 3 and just forgot everything but the basic plot of the past games). I had to look it up to remind myself but yes you are right there was a small bit of SF in fallout 2. I just would like to see a game that took place in all of SF rather than a relatively small part.

While I would love to play Fallout 1 & 2, I have no idea where I may buy them in reliable quality.

So once again I apologize for my defensiveness. I have always just had problems with perceived slams against my intelligence. It is one of the few things that I pride myself on and one of the few things that is repeatedly attacked, and sometimes I just snap.

Edit: On isometric view, it is one of the things that always seems to come up when people talk about original fallout versus fallout 3. It is a standard argument made by fans of the original, and figured it was a main point of your unsaid argument. Again I snap and don't think straight.
 

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Spineyguy said:
paragon1 said:
Spineyguy said:
How about we do over with the whole 'ruined US cityscape' idea and try something new. Maybe, an RPG with FPS elements set in post-apocalyptic London Can you imagen fighting your way through Parliament house with hordes of mutant politicians trying to claw your nipples off and take all your money.

I would much prefer a game set in England, why does that never happen? The closest thing we've come to an english game so far has been either GTA London 1960s or Fable, and even Fable tries to hide the fact that it's set in england by calling it 'Albion'.

England was originally named Albion, then it was named Anglo-land, then England. So it's not even a particularly clever disguise. But why disguise it at all? Are Americans completely incapable of accepting that there are other countries in the world? It's been assumed that if you don't set your game in America, then you won't appeal to the American market, but why? Americans aren't bad people who are self-centred and xeno-phobic (well most aren't anyway). So why not mix things up a bit.

Also, I'm not counting 'Resident Evil' because they're clearly making a statement about how terrible all these other countries are compared to America, and that an American should go in there and feed them some liberty, democracy and bullets.
Really? Seriously dude, really? An Englishman (UK citizen, at least) is accusing Americans of being self-rightous imperialists? Do I really need to go into just how hypocritical and ironic that would be?
I can only assume the original fallout took place in America because the developers were American. Fallout 2 was a direct sequel, so it wouldn't make much sense for it to take place elsewhere, would it? I guess Fallout 3 took place in America for continuity's sake.

I believe there are several games that take place in London. In fact, Unskippable did an episode on the Getaway, if I'm not much mistaken. Also, don't Americans play an awful lot of games from a little place called Japan? Last time I checked, the land of the rising son hasn't applied for statehood yet.
I said that the majority of Americans AREN'T self-rightious imperialists. (This might have been unclear typing on my part) Some of my best freinds are American and why would I badmouth one of the most powerful nations in the world?

Yeah, you can bring up 'The Getaway' if you like, but I was actually referring to good games. Maybe something a little more mainstream. And I wasn't even referring to Fallout specifically, I just think that by broadening the range of places you set your games in, you would probably attract a wider, not narrower audience.

Besides, the Englishmen who ran the empire a hundred years ago were miles from the hypochondriac, safety-obsessed, desparate people we are today. Half the country live in fifty bedroom houses with butlers and massive govornment paycheques, and the other half live in council provided housing, refusing to find jobs and living off the state benefits and free healthcare. In some ways, we are already a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
Ooh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. The massive government paycheckes sound nice (though I'm betting you guys get taxed halfway to Obilivion). Though I still have one tiny problem with your original statement. Resident Evil was made in Japan, wasn't it? And isn't the protagonist supposed to be working for some sort of international thingy?
P.S. I agree that the Getaway wasn't very good.