Age = SMRT?

[SmartIdiot]

I believe that wisdom comes with experience, not age. You can live for 50 years and do fuck all with your life and you can also be in your late teens and have a whole fuckton of crazy things happen to you. Age is irrelevant.

It just so happens that the internet makes information freely available, often with a lack of context which enables snotty nosed teenagers to think they know everything.

 

[Enigmers]

There are a lot of old people who have convinced themselves that their age means they're better at making rational decisions.

 

[UnusualStranger]

Yes, great skills can be learned by repeating a task, and it certainly helps you understanding of not just the skill itself, but things related to it, which is what improves intelligence. And also, your right, experience and books can be wrong, which is why the greatest way to learn is to keep an open mind and not refuse to acknowledge an opposing argument.

I'm exactly like you XD. People closer to your age, and ironically closer to your mindset can often be irritating since similarities lead to unexpected problems. Which is why sometimes, your greatest rival can make more sense and be easier to get along with than your greatest friend.

This is true. While keeping an open mind is important, I am sure that it is quite difficult to do so as you acquire more experience, as a newcomer would be assumed to have less experience than yourself, and thus considered wrong when they give their opinions.

And....Well, we don't have a very similar mindset at all, actually. We are quite different, which is a good thing, because I don't think I have really run into anyone with a style similar to my own. But speaking of rivals....I always think of the relationships of such things in stories, how sometimes the rival knows the hero better than the friends of the hero do.

I believe that wisdom comes with experience, not age. You can live for 50 years and do fuck all with your life and you can also be in your late teens and have a whole fuckton of crazy things happen to you. Age is irrelevant.

It just so happens that the internet makes information freely available, often with a lack of context which enables snotty nosed teenagers to think they know everything.

Yes, the whole access to information thing has kind of made a lot of know-it-alls in the process of spreading information. This definitely is a flaw in knowledge that needs some major correcting.

 

[Burningsok]

age=wisdom give or take a few points. But no, smartz doesn't = age. Plus someone using the term "Well you're young, so you don't know what your talking about" should be shot and pissed on because obviously their argument is completely arrogant and unintelligent. It should be something like this "hey, I went to college and studied the human body, so I'm the one who knows exactly I'm talking about. Until you get a degree like what I have, go piss off." that is what you should say in that example... kinda lol

they should count age with XP points, the more you legitimately learn, the more XP points you get that go towards your overall smartz and wisdom or whatever. Unfortunately this doesn't exist I wish we had little XP bars floating above our heads to see how far we have made it in life lol.

 

[Emeli]

Smart is such an incredibly relative term. Smart in one area doesn't mean smart in another. The one thing I've learned over the years is how incredibly little I know in the grand scheme of things.

Life is like science. You try something and if it doesn't work out you know to try something different next time. Statistically speaking it's unlikely to get everything right on your first try, so when looking for general life smarts it's better to rely on the opinion of someone with a wide pool of experiments. Whether that's a person who has lived a long time or a younger person who has lived very broadly, it doesn't so much matter.

Also it should be taken into account that the human brain is not fully formed until the early 20s. Reasoning at a person's full potential is simply not possible until that point.

So yes, there is something to be said for age. Ask anyone over the age of 25 what they were like ten years ago and see if the answer isn't "OMG I was a moron". This is the learning stage of life, when you make the mistakes that get you the experience.

That being said, dismissing an opinion out of hand because of the speaker's age is just as stupid as anything they could say.

For instance, my mother got sick when I was 7, and my whole family had to face the fact that she was not getting better. At the age of 10 I had a more wise and rational opinion on death and mortality then most 30 year olds I know today.

There's no clear cut path. For any young person struggling with this I'd say that no one has ever listened to every piece of advice they should have, but looking to older people with an open mind can teach you alot. It's a difficult thing to accept when they might be right for reasons you don't yet understand. And when they're genuinely full of shit and won't hear you out, accepting that with grace is a virtue they'll probably never learn if they live to be a thousand.

 

[Levitas1234]

Age is just another part of the cover to be judged before actually getting to know a person, If someone is to think of a young person as less intelligent then they should at least prove that the individual whom is believed to be less intelligent do to his youth is actually of lesser intelligence before permanently judging.

 

[WolfThomas]

I think it generally depends on the person, but often older does mean smarter/wiser. I'm not saying this is true for everyone. It is not simply because the age, it is more about the number of experiences and being older simply exposes you to more statistically.

But then again it may be because studying and spending everyday of my life around intelligent and highly trained individuals. But at the end of the day, the reason my boss is my boss isn't because he's any fifty, it's because he's spent 30 more years than me training and practicing.

I guess what I'm saying is give older people the benefit of the doubt initially, as there's a good chance they know a damn sight more than you. Assume they know what they're talking about until proven otherwise. But if they do say something ignorant/racist/plain stupid, then of course you should challenge it's validity.

 

[Denamic]

Younger = Stupider
Older != Smarter

 

[snide_cake]

I think age has a lot to do with self-confidence, exposure to different situations and such. So you can become a little life-smarter I suppose is a good word for it.

Some people though don't get book-smarter with age, and will hold onto their child-like tendencies.

It depends really on the individual, and their environment also I reckon. If they are encouraged to stay in their child-like habits then they feel there's no need to show maturity.

Then again maturity probably does not equal smarts.

It does depend on the individual, and their exposure to certain things, and the values that those around them hold important, and therefore what their own values become. Then age doesn't come into it -too- much... but nothing beats experience. And again, you can get that experience old or young, and it's going to be different for everybody. That's why some kids seem real smart and mature for their age...

 

[alucard1997]

I feel that the only time to use the "you can't understand, you're too young" is only to explain the birds and the bees. Or if there is a funny innuendo about an old video game they weren't around for.

 

[CouchCommando]

I've met some pig iron dumb older people and I've met some naive young people ,I've never accused a young person of been stupid per say only learning, but if I see an older person making an ass of themselves I am a lot less forgiving.

 

[xDarc]

Its that people so happily throw this into any discussion amongst generations. "Well, you're young, so you don't know what you are talking about".

Look. There's a reason you hear this a lot from people. It's generally because they are embarrassed at the naivety or foolishness of their younger selves. This is almost a universal feeling, the sense of growth.

I think there are some sharp kids out there. When I say sharp, I'm referring to common sense and rationality. I'm referring to being responsible, planning and attaining goals, taking control of your life and possessing some self-reliance. Stuff you don't get from books. Stuff that makes you an adult.

Everyone gets there in their own time.

And as far as current pop culture goes- the 2000's were downright awful. I miss the relative peace and prosperity of the 90's. I could quit a job and get hired again the same day back then.

 

[demoman_chaos]

They mistake experience for knowledge.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

Once you're 25-30, you're at your smartest, anything before or after that and you're probably either naive or you wish things would stay the same.

 

[ultrachicken]

Age=experience, not SMRT.
There are insanely smart 5th graders that are learning high school level math, but they lack experience.

 

[Kiju]

You just typed out a big bunch of discrimination, but from your own view-point (i.e. the side of the younger). Good job.

 

[UnusualStranger]

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I really wish we had those numbers. Could really help identify who is going to demolish me, and who is on my level!

chop

I see you understand what I was getting at. The age doesn't mean you actual do know more, it is the experiences you have which dictate that. I am just trying to point out the argument that young=very little knowledge is not true.

However, you raise an interesting dilemma though. How do you know when your elders are giving you solid advice, or when they are just being stubborn old people?

slice

You are looking at the problem, but not seeing it, exactly. The problem isn't quite along the lines of intelligence, it is that age(or maturity, I think is the word you are using) does not mean you are the wiser choice. Experiences play a big factor, and just because the person is older does not mean their experience means more.

rip

I understand that older generations do not like to see naivety, but isn't that what we should shoot for anyway? If you plan on doing something completely outlandish, you might as well go all the way, right? Just accepting that things will not change, will not change anything. Would not that make you an adult as well?

And I hear ya on this being a bad couple o years. I really wish I had a job around now....I hate having to take loans.

cut

Thanks! *High five back*

You took my point a little bit further, but it is the topic. When someone older manages to do something, it is worthy of praise, cash, and all that good stuff. When a younger generation does it, people figure that it was going through the motions and that someone taught the kid to do that. And you bring up another point. Each generation replaces itself, proving the other wrong, and moving on. These days it just seems a little, well, worse, as older generations are sticking around a lot longer to harp on younger generations.

*smack*

Contribute to the discussion please.

 

[Good morning blues]

Age definitely correlates with maturity, and when you're as young as most of this forum's demographic, it doesn't take very much time for it to make a noticeable difference.