AhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaa... a Zoe Quinn movie.

[StatusNil]

When I say "men", I mean "a majority of men". You have your allies like Christina Hoff Sommers patting you on the head for being good little reactionaries, but a majority of Gamergate are the usual packs of pissed off men who have few hobbies beyond railing against SJWs and feminism and have been doing so for the past half-decade.

You say "reactionary", I say "liberal". My word has the advantage of having a meaning.

 

[THM]

I'd be interested in her memoirs and a film version later. It seems way too soon currently, and the best biopics or movies on events get at least a few viewpoints to help construct it. Considering how much shady shit happened around August last year on every side and form of social networking, I think it'd be best to cool it down and try and figure out what happened (and if its even important) before making and greenlighting a movie because Quinn wrote a memoir.

Agreed. Also, congrats - 6 pages worth of comments, and this is the most measured and intelligent out of any of them.

 

[sageoftruth]

Maybe if they make it something like Phoenix Wright and turn the forum arguments into an actual Hollywood trial it might be interesting.

 

[MerlinCross]

Why anyone should mobilize in online packs of aggrieved men for over a year because of her, however, is a fucking mystery. I suppose I simply have a modicum of happiness in my miserable little life making the prospect of waging ideological jihad against some other guys' shitty ex-girlfriend/ failed relationship unappealing to me.

Sounds like you've been listening to and believing in exactly the real problem that has people (not just men) up in arms. Namely, the brazenly dishonest "journo" junta, who use this individual as a shield to cover their tangled webs of cronyism infecting gaming media. Their very power to make you believe their precious Narrative is an ample demonstration of why they need to be resisted.

No way I could disagree with you without having been brainwashed. I've been lurking long enough to have witnessed the original "Quinnspiracy thread" so that gaslighting horseshit about how what I remember as being a dumpster fire revolving around "OMG, what a horrible skank-beast Zoe is" actually being a grassroots consumer revolt centered on "ethics in journalism" won't work on me. Sorry. I'll trust my lying eyes over your insistence.


Complaining about "gaming journalism" for its lack of adherence to journalistic ethics (which would preclude reporting on half-baked innuendo from a jilted ex, anyway) is like rallying against root beer over its low alcohol content. "Journalism" in this case is colloquial and being used to describe tech reviews and blog posts. Game Informer, Polygon, Kotaku, etc. are about as journalistic as E! News. So, even if I took GamerGate at face value, I'd be unswayed by the self-righteous demagoguery involving "holding game reviewers accountable" and all that. It's simply not that important. This is made worse by how all the angst regarding race/sex/gender identity/etc. is dismissed as busybody hand-wringing that can be solved by simply not purchasing "problematic" material or affording views to such content, yet I'm supposed to be moved by all these "I was bullied for being a video game nerd!" sob stories and treat "neckbeard" like it's the real N-word rather than state, "You could just not read the magazines/ websites you've deemed guilty of stereotyping you as a "gamer".

When I say "men", I mean "a majority of men". You have your allies like Christina Hoff Sommers patting you on the head for being good little reactionaries, but a majority of Gamergate are the usual packs of pissed off men who have few hobbies beyond railing against SJWs and feminism and have been doing so for the past half-decade.

You just summed up why 99% of the internet hits another tab when "Gamergate" or "Ethics in Game Journalism" is mentioned. We hear it for the coded language it is, wielded as it is by the unwieldy and unwashed.

Then why are you guys still here if you click another tab? Heck if you say "avoid the sites you hate" to GG shouldn't you follow your own advise and not come back to the site anymore?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Then why are you guys still here if you click another tab? Heck if you say "avoid the sites you hate" to GG shouldn't you follow your own advise and not come back to the site anymore?

If they're anything like me, it's the "laughing at conspiracy theories" part. Sometimes you just gotta know how far down the rabbit hole of crazy it goes. I don't know it they'll ever top "they're weaponizing the UN to destroy free speech, they should be tried under this 200 year old law that's applicable if you don't know case law and squint at it a fair bit". I'm willing to stick around and see if they try though, it's a laugh and a half.

OT: Neat, movie. Que the sex jokes, 'cause it's totes not about slut-shaming. Still, it'll have better production quality than The Sarkeesian Effect. Be careful not to trip on that bar.

(Speaking of, has that pile of lols been released to the Internet yet? I mean, I know opening day got like, 7 people, but I'm interested in riffing the shit out of seeing what skull boy and bathrobe man came up with.)

 

[MrMan999]

Honestly I'm just tired of both sides of this whole debacle at this point. In this past year this shitstorm has turned The Internet into The Somme. And its just getting old. A pox on both thy houses I say. I just want this whole fiasco to end.

 

[Secondhand Revenant]

Why anyone should mobilize in online packs of aggrieved men for over a year because of her, however, is a fucking mystery. I suppose I simply have a modicum of happiness in my miserable little life making the prospect of waging ideological jihad against some other guys' shitty ex-girlfriend/ failed relationship unappealing to me.

Sounds like you've been listening to and believing in exactly the real problem that has people (not just men) up in arms. Namely, the brazenly dishonest "journo" junta, who use this individual as a shield to cover their tangled webs of cronyism infecting gaming media. Their very power to make you believe their precious Narrative is an ample demonstration of why they need to be resisted.

No way I could disagree with you without having been brainwashed. I've been lurking long enough to have witnessed the original "Quinnspiracy thread" so that gaslighting horseshit about how what I remember as being a dumpster fire revolving around "OMG, what a horrible skank-beast Zoe is" actually being a grassroots consumer revolt centered on "ethics in journalism" won't work on me. Sorry. I'll trust my lying eyes over your insistence.


Complaining about "gaming journalism" for its lack of adherence to journalistic ethics (which would preclude reporting on half-baked innuendo from a jilted ex, anyway) is like rallying against root beer over its low alcohol content. "Journalism" in this case is colloquial and being used to describe tech reviews and blog posts. Game Informer, Polygon, Kotaku, etc. are about as journalistic as E! News. So, even if I took GamerGate at face value, I'd be unswayed by the self-righteous demagoguery involving "holding game reviewers accountable" and all that. It's simply not that important. This is made worse by how all the angst regarding race/sex/gender identity/etc. is dismissed as busybody hand-wringing that can be solved by simply not purchasing "problematic" material or affording views to such content, yet I'm supposed to be moved by all these "I was bullied for being a video game nerd!" sob stories and treat "neckbeard" like it's the real N-word rather than state, "You could just not read the magazines/ websites you've deemed guilty of stereotyping you as a "gamer".

When I say "men", I mean "a majority of men". You have your allies like Christina Hoff Sommers patting you on the head for being good little reactionaries, but a majority of Gamergate are the usual packs of pissed off men who have few hobbies beyond railing against SJWs and feminism and have been doing so for the past half-decade.

You just summed up why 99% of the internet hits another tab when "Gamergate" or "Ethics in Game Journalism" is mentioned. We hear it for the coded language it is, wielded as it is by the unwieldy and unwashed.

Then why are you guys still here if you click another tab? Heck if you say "avoid the sites you hate" to GG shouldn't you follow your own advise and not come back to the site anymore?

This site is called 'The Escapist'. Not 'Gamergate'. I'm not sure what impression you have but thankfully GG is not the entire forums.

 

[sky14kemea]

Okay okay okay, that's enough.

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This thread's caused enough bickering for now.