Alien asks you to prove humanity is worth saving
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^This^ is an excellent point.AbundantRedundancy said:
OT: I'd say that even though we have all this horrible stuff, we also have people willing to give their lives for other people, we have love and empathy, we have bacon, skittles, the potential for greatness, and if we aren't worth saving then we'll probably kill ourselves off anyway, so the most practical course of action is to save us.
whaaaat. who says pessimists cant save the planet.naughtynazgul said:
all you need to say is "you guys were probably totally worse".
and all hostilities would cease
I've got nothing. I could show them what we're like and they'd react by flying back to their home planet to get a bigger, more powerful weapon to make sure we are completely annihilated and/or kill us more painfully. That might buy us some time to do, well, something.
EDIT: Wait, no, I think I misunderstood what you meant by 'save'. Oh well.
EDIT: Wait, no, I think I misunderstood what you meant by 'save'. Oh well.
Letting an antire sentient species die out is morally wrong. By even debating it you have no moral high ground. Hell humans have made efforts to keep animals of all sizes from going extinct, so why are should we not be given the same chance. I mean come on guys, at least try.
Why Caring about what Aliens Think ?.
I dont even think Incarnated Angels think Humanity is Worth Saving ...
I dont even think Incarnated Angels think Humanity is Worth Saving ...
I treat them with kindness prompting them to declare that humanity is safe as long as I live. They bestow upon me an alien technology that eventually allows me to become a skillful assassin. I soon forget my past experience, and eventually have my memories as an assassin erased to keep me from remembering dangerous secrets. Years pass. I now live a boring life.
However, I have a passion to travel to Mars. Technology has advanced by now, and I have false memories implanted of a trip to mars as a spy. Real memories from my assassin days are revealed, and my old agency tracks me down. They offer to spare my life if I implant new more egocentric memories to cover up the assassination ones. They decide to make me remember saving the world from an alien invasion only to reveal the ones I forgot long ago, meaning they have no choice but to spare me.
Or has this been covered already?
However, I have a passion to travel to Mars. Technology has advanced by now, and I have false memories implanted of a trip to mars as a spy. Real memories from my assassin days are revealed, and my old agency tracks me down. They offer to spare my life if I implant new more egocentric memories to cover up the assassination ones. They decide to make me remember saving the world from an alien invasion only to reveal the ones I forgot long ago, meaning they have no choice but to spare me.
Or has this been covered already?
Same reason one culture should value another. The different viewpoints or values systems could end up solving problems you have now or come up against later down the line, because every culture has its own blind spots. It's useful to have some mirrors.
I'd say "You know what? We're not perfect, but if you could see how far we've come? 100,000 years ago, we were killing each other. Constantly. We lived in little tribes, and if we came across another tribe that was smaller, we killed them. If we came across one that was bigger, they killed us. That was all we did. We were killers through and through. But we grew, and we discovered language, and laws, and trade, and we learned that you don't always have to kill the other guy. And we settled down, and formed towns and cities and nations. We created art and music. And yes, we still killed each other, but here's the thing. We started feeling bad about it. And we started doing it less. And with each passing century, we killed each other less and we felt worse about the killing that we did do. So by the time we got to the twentieth century, which even though it had our two biggest and bloodiest wars ever, it was still the least bloody century in our history (seriously, I know it's counter-intuitive but it's actually true). We're getting better. We are getting so much better. With every decade we become wiser, more humane, more decent, less violent. And it doesn't feel like that to us because the wiser and more humane we become the more glaring our faults seem to us. We always think we're getting worse, when in fact we're getting better. And we will keep getting better. And that is why we deserve to live. Also, we have nukes and we don't like being threatened."
Aaaaaaaaaaaand bye-bye goes humanity.AbundantRedundancy said:
There's no knowing what may save (or damn) us. Think about the vast differences in culture and values between yourself and, say, the immigrant family down the block. Multiply that by ten and you're still nowhere near the difference that would exist between humans and aliens. A handshake is a sign of welcome to us but if offered to a being from a planet where touching was the ultimate taboo it would likely be rather poorly received.
What would be most important is their message to us -- whether it was peace or obliteration. We flatter ourselves in our fiction because it's more dramatic and pleasing when little underdog Man can step up and be counted among starfarers. In reality any civilization that could cross interstellar distances could pretty much do whatever it wanted with Earth. We'd be powerless to stop them.
We wouldn't even notice. We'd be asked, then immediately put it on Facebook and Twitter, text it to all our friends, and within an hour, we'd all have heard of it, and then we'd be so busy arguing amongst ourselves on the internet and on challenge shows of 'Should humanity be destroyed, or should we try and wipe them out of our satellite interference?' that they'd either kill us for providing them the hassle, or just fuck off and leave us the hell alone.
