Alien Vs Predator, That Battle of the Films!

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This is the official battle of the ages. The greatest hunter vs the greatest race of aliens. The two movie icons, which have spawned so much controversy. I take a look back now, to the very origins of the greatest duo in the world? Alien and Predator!! I will be judging the two movies on different points of interest including: Sci-fi-yness, how creative the aliens were, the movie body count, the protagonists, the way they ended and the spin-offs. So without further delay I bring to you Alien Vs Predator, That Battle of the Films!

Sci-fi-yness:
Alien defiantly takes the cake here and eats it too. Set in the future (point 1) a ship (point 2) known as the Nostromo follows a distrest beacon through deep space. The AI on board (point 3), known as ?Mother? wakes up the crew so they can investigate the signal. The crew discover a desolate alien spaceship (point 4) where they find the former race of aliens (point 5) have been destroyed by another alien race (point 6) which by now has turned their ship into some hive world (point 7). The crew find a large cavern full of alien eggs, and when the foolish yet inquisitive Mr Kane goes to investigate one, he gets an unexpected and much unneeded alien blowjob, which he later finds himself pregnant to a little baby alien. Aww, cute, if not gory and bloodthirsty. Just like real life pregnancies I suppose. (Point 8).

Predator on the other hand is about Arnold Schwarzenegger and his crew of buff super-humans who go out and tackle a g terrorist group in Central America to free some prisoners. This is where they meet the Predator. The ultimate hunter in the galaxy. Sadly, the sci-fi-yness factor only comes of the Predator and his range of unique weapons and equipment.

Alien 1. Predator 0.

Alien creativity:
What can be said? I do believe that the phallic extraterrestrial created from the disconcerting mind of famous artist H.R Giger has once more taken the frikken cake, being the sneaky little thief that it is. The first art designs of the Alien had it sporting a penis for a tongue (not a lot has changed since it?s now basically a penis with teeth) and a penis for a tail, and it went on merry trips raping women. The alien life cycle is something that made it famous. Having three main stages in its life: first being that of the face rapist. Eggs are laid into your stomach for a little baby alien to grow inside of. When it feels all big and strong out burst number two, the chest buster. Its name is pretty much self-explanatory as it busts through your chest. This little guy goes around eating anything and everything until he becomes a big strong xenomorph, the third and last stage of its life. This isn?t including the Queen and different types of hosts, which spawn different types of babies.

As for Predator, he?s just the stereotypical hunter complete with fish nettings, invisibility cloak and laser guns. Because all hunters now days should use a laser gun to kill their pray. This is why I shop at Purple Rain?s Laser and Co. If it isn?t quality, it isn?t Purple Rain Lasers.

Score: Alien 2. Predator 0.

Body count:
Well, it is an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. This means lots of bodies and a lot of explosions. Between Schwarzenegger and Predator, it seems like a race for who can kill and skin as many bodies as possible. Schwarzenegger missing out because he didn?t skin a body once; although he did stab a guy with a machete and tell him to ?stick around.?

Alien didn?t have as many deaths in it, since it was only a small crew of seven. The body count isn?t going to exceed that. Take off one since one of the dead crew was actually a robot.

Score: Alien 2. Predator 1.

Protagonists:
Hmm, this was a bit of a toughie. On one hand we have Sigourney Weaver. She?s one of the first female actors to be the main protagonist. She basically carved the way for more female actors to take up the role of being the hot and sassy, lady in charge instead of the usual, hot and sassy underdog. Then we have Arnold Schwarzenegger and that basically says it for itself. But at the end of the day, I?ll have to give Predator one point since Schwarzenegger was also backed up by Jesse Ventura who delivered the line, ?I ain?t got time to bleed.?

Score: Alien 2. Predator 2.

Endings:
This would be one that Predator exceeds in. The wounded alien hunter sets off a huge explosion, which blows apart half the jungle in a last attempt to kill poor old Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yet, due to the fact that he?s a mother fucking god, that man walks out of harms way in epic strides. A man who has killed robots, terrorists and even a demon, has now added, galactic celestial hunter to his list of things he?s killed.
In Aliens, the antagonist was sucked out of the airlock. Nothing special, no explosion, no fiery exits. I?m somewhat let down.

Score: Alien 2. Predator 3.

The spin-offs:
Alien was so enjoyable, 3 sequels came of it, although only one of them was any good. Aliens is truly shining star in the series, which pushed the boundaries with both the franchise and the sci-fi genre in general. A great film to watch.
Predator sadly, is let down by its predecessor. Predator 2 shoed off some new moves and gadgets, but the movie lacked anything good that was in the first.
Onto the Alien Vs Predator series: the Aliens rocked the horse hard in this movie. End of topic.

Score: Alien 3. Predator 3.

Oh people, this is a close one. In an epic last minute duel I concocted one last battle to see who is the true victor of the series.

Who am I most biased for:
Aliens.

Score: Alien 4. Predator 3.
 

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Both lose 100 points for the AVP movies and therefore, both lose and should be jettisoned out of a cannon somewhere far far away.

Seriously, if your not gonna take the material seriously, just LEAVE IT THE #%#$ ALONE!
 

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MikeyW said:
Both lose 100 points for the AVP movies and therefore, both lose and should be jettisoned out of a cannon somewhere far far away.

Seriously, if your not gonna take the material seriously, just LEAVE IT THE #%#$ ALONE!
I'm hoping that was aimed at Hollywood.

Anyway, the AVP films fall into the 'Have nothing to do with the actual story but can be enjoyed if only for the violence factor' catigory. AVP screws up both series of films but if you dim down your mind, they are a bit of fun.
 

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PurpleRain said:
MikeyW said:
Both lose 100 points for the AVP movies and therefore, both lose and should be jettisoned out of a cannon somewhere far far away.

Seriously, if your not gonna take the material seriously, just LEAVE IT THE #%#$ ALONE!
I'm hoping that was aimed at Hollywood.

Anyway, the AVP films fall into the 'Have nothing to do with the actual story but can be enjoyed if only for the violence factor' catigory. AVP screws up both series of films but if you dim down your mind, they are a bit of fun.
Sorry, wasn't going off at you. Just really hate having to dumb down because of MTV hacks.

Your right though. Aliens should always win. Predator only has the edge with all his gadgetry. The Alien was built to kill from birth.
 

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MikeyW said:
Your right though. Aliens should always win. Predator only has the edge with all his gadgetry. The Alien was built to kill from birth.
Pre-birth sorta. That's why I love them so. They are the perfect predator.

Sometimes I feel Hollywood should go back to its roots. When it actually made good films instead of CGI battles dummed down for the stupids. I miss those days.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Predator and Alien were made for eachother... As you said, Alien has a real phallic aspect, and Predator has a face like a fanged vagina. A match if I ever saw one.
Haha. Best quote I've ever heard. Mind if I use that one?

Khell_Sennet said:
This is a toughie... Predator can't count nearly as many kills as there were in the movie. If we're comparing the two species, then Pred's only real kills were from Ahnold's team. I'd actually rate this point as a tie.
But you forget about the skined bodies hung up in the trees and the two dead chopper pilots. It's never really told who did it BUT if you DO want to go by AvPR then it was all Predator.

Khell_Sennet said:
Yes Pred set off a nuke, but if you recall, so did Ripley. Hers was bigger. And I have to give her the win because of the double-ending. They make you think it's all over as Ripley sets her cat in a sleep tube, and the Narcissus blasts away from the Nostromo... But then Xeno pops his phallic head back up and goes one more round. Also, he isn't just simply blasted into space, he tries to crawl back in through the engine and gets burninated to death.
Gah! How could I forget this?! My life as a critic is over. I must go now and plant my sword into my chest.
 

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I like this thread, It seems most of the posters here (most as in all 2 of you) like the Aliens, which in my humble opinion were the best of the two. I am so sick and tired of people who are predator freaks "omgah well predator is cooler than aliens because they have a shoulder cannon WHOA!!11!". Predator was cool, but no where near the sheer awesomeness that were the Alien movies. As for the movie AVP, don't get me started, that movie was rather bad. They made the predators look way to powerful and godlike, and made the aliens look like a bunch of retarded insects, also the movie was too predator centered. I never did see the second AVP though.

I did love the AVP games though, they were balanced rather well between the three races, and AVP2 was a lot of fun to play online. Being part of a 16 Alien swarm, climbing over the fence of a human compound and tearing all the human players apart rules.
 

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In contrast, I do remember the Alien in Alien 3 tearing up the nuclear blast doors and putting a sizable dint in it. and with all the times they tore someone to pieces, I would admit they are actually quite strong.
 

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I'll have to do that. Finding those books is a mission in Brisbane but they sound great. I think I know where some of the AVP comics are.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Predator is the better killer. ]
I stand by my original statement. Predator is only a better killer because of superior technology. Without his cloaking, shoulder cannon, mask, medkit etc etc etc, Isn't much of a badass. And the whole I'm going to lose so I'm breaking everything attitude doesn't get any points. You seriously injure an Xeno and it either keeps trying to kill you or backs off so it can kill you later.
 

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PurpleRain said:
I'll have to do that. Finding those books is a mission in Brisbane but they sound great. I think I know where some of the AVP comics are.
Try a QBD. I can usually get whatever I need within a week. Even the really obscure stuff.
 

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MikeyW said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Predator is the better killer. ]
I stand by my original statement. Predator is only a better killer because of superior technology. Without his cloaking, shoulder cannon, mask, medkit etc etc etc, Isn't much of a badass. And the whole I'm going to lose so I'm breaking everything attitude doesn't get any points. You seriously injure an Xeno and it either keeps trying to kill you or backs off so it can kill you later.
Hey now. Xenos arnt much without there theeth, claws, acid blood, penis mouth and tail *wink*
 

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MikeyW said:
Khell_Sennet said:
Predator is the better killer. ]
I stand by my original statement. Predator is only a better killer because of superior technology. Without his cloaking, shoulder cannon, mask, medkit etc etc etc, Isn't much of a badass. And the whole I'm going to lose so I'm breaking everything attitude doesn't get any points. You seriously injure an Xeno and it either keeps trying to kill you or backs off so it can kill you later.
As I remember Predator seems to like getting naked to fight the big enemy, Predalien or Arnold S. They lost both times though, so I think we see a pattern emerging.

zen5887 said:
Hey now. Xenos arnt much without there theeth, claws, acid blood, penis mouth and tail *wink*
Then without blood, they're dead.
 

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now im not the biggest alien knower around but.. on the topic of how many families there were on Lv 426...

someone said around 30 families... but wasn't it more around 70-75 families? not counting pets and the like
 

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Sathannas said:
someone said around 30 families... but wasn't it more around 70-75 families? not counting pets and the like
Cause pets make for tasty treats to fuel the hive.