"All PC Games Run On Macs." What?
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step 1: do NOT. GET A MAC.The Virgo said:
mac's have 40% profit margin. they are ALWAYS. overpriced. also those advising you to get a mac are mac zombies. and are talking out of their ass as many a poster has said.
also i have recently ( 3 weeks ago ) built the very computer i am now typing this with. its so good the games that it cant run havent even been made yet. and i have only spent 850 euros.
so thats about 298734923492 dollars. ( just kidding ) more like 1100? so 3000 my bum.
Your friend is an idiot.
There are be about 15% of PC games that also run on a Macintosh OS, but with some hassle you can install Windows on your Mac to play all of them, then the question is why not just get a normal PC and save some money...
Yes RAM can be in odd numbers as it comes also as 1024MB -> 1GB.
There are be about 15% of PC games that also run on a Macintosh OS, but with some hassle you can install Windows on your Mac to play all of them, then the question is why not just get a normal PC and save some money...
Yes RAM can be in odd numbers as it comes also as 1024MB -> 1GB.
Mac users like that make me want to fire bomb Apple Stores everywhere... I built my gaming rig a 1 1/2 years ago for $600 and I can still run things on medium to high settings at 1920x1080 resolution. The problem with the average mac user is that they don't know shit about computers and rely on Macs as a crutch. I'm not saying all mac users know nothing about computers, but a vast majority don't.
Your friend doesn't have a clue.The Virgo said:
The hardware inside PCs and Macs is now the same. It used to be that the CPUs were based on a different 'template' so to speak but that's changed now, which is why it's taken this long to get games on Mac OS. Most games still don't run on Macs, and you have to go through all the same installation crap, except the Mac OS buries the advanced tools necessary for troubleshooting in menus, so fixing any problems is that much harder.
A PC will always be cheaper than a hardware-equivalent Mac because Macs are overpriced. They charge you a fortune for that little apple symbol.
If you want to actually use your computer for anything, rather than show it off, you're better off getting a PC. That's why PCs still have dominant market share. The only real plus point of Macs is that the pre-installed software can be very good, and the screens are good. That's why media people who don't know what they're doing use them. Now-a-days, though, with my PC having never crashed and the ease with which you can stop viruses, the two main flaws of Windows are gone (imo). You can get the software that makes Macs worthwhile for media stuff on PC now, really, there's no reason at all to buy a Mac.
Unless you want to wind up all your tech-savvy friends.
Oh, and yes, you can have an odd number. I have 3gb.
Well you could install windows on it but other than that no
also on the price point that's bull as well no computer cost's 3000$ at least not a home computer and 1200$ would buy you a top of the range gaming pc with all the trimmings like microsoft office where as a mac will charge you extra for the inconvenience of it being a mac (damm hipsters for funding this shit) so do your self a favor and spend about 900$ on an excellent rig in comparison I spent about 400$ 6 years ago on a midrange rig it wont play shit nowdays but it was good for a few years and to be honest its set up for media editing not gaming but that was me being an idiot
also on the price point that's bull as well no computer cost's 3000$ at least not a home computer and 1200$ would buy you a top of the range gaming pc with all the trimmings like microsoft office where as a mac will charge you extra for the inconvenience of it being a mac (damm hipsters for funding this shit) so do your self a favor and spend about 900$ on an excellent rig in comparison I spent about 400$ 6 years ago on a midrange rig it wont play shit nowdays but it was good for a few years and to be honest its set up for media editing not gaming but that was me being an idiot
I have a 2007 Macbook pro thats bootcamped with windows 7. It runs DoW2 well all be it with the fans going at full speed, along with some of the newer games. That being said I prefer the OSX interface for day to day stuff, and the only reason I have bootcamp is to play RTS games, use solidworks or explosives modelling software that hasnt yet been coded for mac.
I kinda prefer playing games that arent RTS/ turn based strategy on my xbox and big tv anyways
If you do want to get a mac dont use parallels to play games, bootcamp it.
I kinda prefer playing games that arent RTS/ turn based strategy on my xbox and big tv anyways
If you do want to get a mac dont use parallels to play games, bootcamp it.
I'm a happy Mac user. But, this part is just bullshit and hyperbole to the highest degree. He seems to think a Mac is a PS3 or something. That isn't the case. You still have to install the game... there's no "boom, it's loaded" happening here...The Virgo said:
Yes, a Mac can run any PC game... IF that Mac is dual-booting Windows. A lot more PC games are becoming available for OS X these days. But, if you fancy yourself a proper PC gamer, you'd still probably need to dual boot Windows.
Personally, I use my Mac(book) for general computing purposes. I'll play Valve or Blizzard games on it as well. I use my PS3 for everything else. But, I don't consider myself a PC gamer really. It works well for me, but I don't expect it to work for everyone.
The iMac is a solid computer. But, you have to know what you're getting. They aren't upgradable to the extent that a typical gaming desktop is. But, they have decent hardware that's more than capable for all but the most die-hard of PC gamers. They're only worth it if you want what they offer, though. If you want the most powerful and upgradable hardware for the money, so you can max out every game in existence, build yourself a desktop. With the iMac, you're paying for a bunch of hardware crammed into a comparatively small space. You're paying for hardware thoroughly optimized for the operating system it runs on, for maximum stability. You're paying for a snazzy aluminum enclosure and a snazzy, up to 27" IPS display. You're paying for something that works out of the box, requiring no tinkering on your part to get drivers working and all that fun stuff. If you don't care about those things, look elsewhere.
Yes, you just install a Windows operating system on the computer, like Vista or Win-7, then boot that operating system.The Virgo said:
iMac is JUST THE HARDWARE! It's all Intel an x86 architecture, it will install and run Windows perfectly.
You still have to do some amount of installation for most games.
But games like Doom and Minecraft you can launch instantly without installation, launch directly from the .exe file.
This was funny reading. People claiming to know computers usually say stupid things like that.. "Mac's are great for gaming Windows machines are not.... "
3k on a "gaming rig" well maybe for a "dream rig", everything over 1k on a new gaming computer is only for when you happen to have money to burn or you believe your "E-pen!s" is to small..
Macs are good for many things like holding your paper in one place if you have a windy office (also called paperweight). Just joking they are great for battery time, surfing, do graphic work.. but mostly just look good.
Windows machines can do most but rarely look good to the "mac people"...
And I think most know that the "sticks" come in 1,2,4,8etc flavor so yes if you hav 1Gb stick you could upgrade an odd number...
And exactly what iMac cost 700? they start at 1200..
Edit: o yea a recommendation to you; Stop listening to what that friend tell you about computers.. or at least take it with a huge bucket of salt...
3k on a "gaming rig" well maybe for a "dream rig", everything over 1k on a new gaming computer is only for when you happen to have money to burn or you believe your "E-pen!s" is to small..
Macs are good for many things like holding your paper in one place if you have a windy office (also called paperweight). Just joking they are great for battery time, surfing, do graphic work.. but mostly just look good.
Windows machines can do most but rarely look good to the "mac people"...
And I think most know that the "sticks" come in 1,2,4,8etc flavor so yes if you hav 1Gb stick you could upgrade an odd number...
And exactly what iMac cost 700? they start at 1200..
Edit: o yea a recommendation to you; Stop listening to what that friend tell you about computers.. or at least take it with a huge bucket of salt...
Oh my, I haven't had a good laugh for while. Thank you for curing that.
Ok, right.
Firstly:
Games really don't work on a Mac. Only a selection of games do, and that's because they've been made to, or your using onlive.
And it's possible to have an odd amount of Ram, it's just you have to make it out off 1gb and 2gb stick. And it's not because no one has bothered to it's because of the most basic rules of computing.
Binary decimal values. 1,2,4,8,16 etc. It's why you won't get a 3gb memory stick.
Ok, right.
Firstly:
Games really don't work on a Mac. Only a selection of games do, and that's because they've been made to, or your using onlive.
And it's possible to have an odd amount of Ram, it's just you have to make it out off 1gb and 2gb stick. And it's not because no one has bothered to it's because of the most basic rules of computing.
Binary decimal values. 1,2,4,8,16 etc. It's why you won't get a 3gb memory stick.
Technaly yes u can, partition the HD and install windows and bam ur "mac" can now play windows games. But what your friend said is wrong macs cannot run everything PCs can never can and never will (atleast for a long time). Or you can install a program (cant remember what its called) to run windows at the same time as the mac OS kinda like a emulator i think it was.
Many games have been ported or developed simultaneously for Mac, but certainly not all.
PCs and Macs both require install for large applications such as games, the access time off of a disk (which is usually compressed), is just a bad way to go.
Games can be developed on Macs, I'm sure many are, and pieces of most, but the corporate world is predominately PC. The applications required to create and collaborate on creating a game generally require customized hardware and OS. It certainly is and can be done, but no, not all games are made with Macs. Either way, the machine that created an application does not determine the machine on which it will run. You don't create games with an xbox or an iPhone... yet.
A 5gb increment of RAM is possible, if you don't go dual-channel, or you use two 512 sticks... which is kind-of pointless either way.
Bang-for buck; DIY is cheapest, like $500 for a decent gaming configuration that will last a while. The same config will probably be $1,000 from a manufacturer like Dell or HP. The same configuration will probably be $1,700 from Apple. Going laptop it gets expensive across the board and you lose DIY... unless you are really determined.
PCs and Macs both require install for large applications such as games, the access time off of a disk (which is usually compressed), is just a bad way to go.
Games can be developed on Macs, I'm sure many are, and pieces of most, but the corporate world is predominately PC. The applications required to create and collaborate on creating a game generally require customized hardware and OS. It certainly is and can be done, but no, not all games are made with Macs. Either way, the machine that created an application does not determine the machine on which it will run. You don't create games with an xbox or an iPhone... yet.
A 5gb increment of RAM is possible, if you don't go dual-channel, or you use two 512 sticks... which is kind-of pointless either way.
Bang-for buck; DIY is cheapest, like $500 for a decent gaming configuration that will last a while. The same config will probably be $1,000 from a manufacturer like Dell or HP. The same configuration will probably be $1,700 from Apple. Going laptop it gets expensive across the board and you lose DIY... unless you are really determined.
Really, just find out which platform your favorite games and developers usually release for. Then determine what type of configuration will support the type of experience you want. Then, find a solution that will play the games you want at the level you want that fits in your budget.
If that ends up a Mac, a Dell, a custom, whatever. You are going to have to live with it, and pay for it, so pick what works for you.
Your friend knows what he's talking about, it works the same way with paper - Seeing how the instructions for making nuclear weapons were written down on paper, all pieces of paper can instantly create nuclear weapons.
It's really nifty.
It's really nifty.
For the price of a new Mac, you could build a gaming rig and a work pc.
That guy is woefully ignorant, and worse, he's SPREADING it.
That guy is woefully ignorant, and worse, he's SPREADING it.
as others have pointed out you don't really need to spend 3000 on a gaming rig, 1200 that you had for a "work computer" would be a pretty good gaming pc (you could run bf3 on it).
Also mac can not run all pc games, and they are not cheaper than pc's. if you want a "mac" just go get a pc and install osx on it. ^^
Also mac can not run all pc games, and they are not cheaper than pc's. if you want a "mac" just go get a pc and install osx on it. ^^
No. Not all games. But a lot of good relevant ones.
The entire Valve Library save for Half-Life and it's expansions is on the Mac now, and my little Macbook Pro can play TF2 with minimal lag after a little while on a server.
And there's always Minecraft.
But if you want a lot of games, just go with a gaming rig.
The entire Valve Library save for Half-Life and it's expansions is on the Mac now, and my little Macbook Pro can play TF2 with minimal lag after a little while on a server.
And there's always Minecraft.
But if you want a lot of games, just go with a gaming rig.