"All PC Games Run On Macs." What?

[Conza]

I wouldn't usually say this, but at least 75% of the people here have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Yes, you can certainly run windows games on a Mac. It takes about about 5 clicks to get windows installed on your mac, from there it can run windows just as well (And in some proven cases, better) then a windows native computer. And you still have all the advantages of OS X if you want to do professional work. The thing is, if you aren't going to take advantage of an OS X native system, then you are better of buying a cheaper (Less reliable) windows native computer.

Exactly what are these "proven cases" where running Windows on an iMac is better? It sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. They both use the same hardware architecture, except the stuff in iMacs is pathetically weak but comes in a shiny box and a huge price tag.

Here here! I second this above question. Please; bring on the proven cases, and I want to see how much more performance and extra $3000 gets you, with lesser components, please, I'm just dying to know how it's possible to pay more money, get less capable hardware, and yet still come out in front - is it magic man?

I wouldn't usually say this, but at least 75% of the people here have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Yes, you can certainly run windows games on a Mac. It takes about about 5 clicks to get windows installed on your mac, from there it can run windows just as well (And in some proven cases, better) then a windows native computer. And you still have all the advantages of OS X if you want to do professional work. The thing is, if you aren't going to take advantage of an OS X native system, then you are better of buying a cheaper (Less reliable) windows native computer.

Exactly what are these "proven cases" where running Windows on an iMac is better? It sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. They both use the same hardware architecture, except the stuff in iMacs is pathetically weak but comes in a shiny box and a huge price tag.

It was a big study by popular mechanics, it started as a simple windows native computer vs os x native computer of equal hardware. Also, about the price tag, I challenge you to find ANYTHING that can even remotely compete with an iMac.

Challenge accepted! Please read my above post for more details.

Then I challenge you, to tell me why, a laptop shoved into a monitor, could possibly ever compete with a real bonafied PC.

Okay, that is like me saying "My MacBook is better then your iPhone". Find an all in one.

No, its actually asking you to either withdraw your statement that a mac could possibly run better than a similar, check that, superior speced PC.

And furthermore, its my marketable desktop computer kicks the shit out of your marketable desktop computer, because it gives much more bang for much less buck.

So go on, give us the tests or withdraw the statement.

Like it or not, all in ones are a HUGE part of the PC market, one that apple is entirely dominating. Just like apple is dominating the ultraportable market.

Excuse me for saying this, as I intend no ill will.

Are you mentally retarded?

I shall, say again. Please provide the case studies, or conceed and be done with it.

iMacs, while 'yes' are "WONDERFUL!" all in ones *pukes* are pieces of shit, when it comes to graphics power.

Yes, they have a place in the market, for morons who can't connect a video cable into video card. Fark, if you're that dumb, then you deserve an iMac, serves those people right. It really shouldn't take a high IQ, to plug a video plug into a video card now can it? Oh well! Just waste more money on a soon to be dated computer because of sheer laziness.

Yay Apple!

My 2 year old iMac with an ATI 5750m is able to get 40fps on starcraft 2 on all ultra settings, under OS X, at 1440x2560, and that is decent to say the least. There is no computer in it's class that competes with it. Just admit it, and then we can move onto the MacBook air.

Yep, you are mentally retarded, and in lieu of this (oh, that means because you've confirmed it for me), I won't make fun of you any more.

I will say this, it is the best in class, because it is the only one 'in' its class, because shoving a laptop into a desktop screen, is a really stupid idea.

Tell me how much your machine cost?

I too have SC2, however I actually have a 'real' desktop computer (not a laptop pretending to be a desktop), which means in this case, a real graphics card, your 5750M would be fried before my 285GTX (that's what we call a real graphics card), even realised it was under pressure. I also have an i7 950, which is the 4th best desktop processor, in the world, coupled with the 285GTX, and while it is a DX10 card, to my knowledge it was the second best DX10 ever released, with 1GB of dedicated graphics ram, and it can deal a whole world of hurt.

Oh yeah, SC2? Too easy, 75 FPS (Full HD).

Look to be honest, if you had a laptop which had a 5750M card, and were getting 40 FPS, SC2 is tolerable, but thats all it is, tolerable. But you spent 4 or 5 times what is appropriate for a laptop, and got included with it an overpriced screen, then you got the handicap of them being shoved together, for no reason what so ever.

You're computer.

A. "Does not" run Windows better than any PC of the same or superior grade, you've failed to prove otherwise multiple times now.

B. Is also so stupid, only a company like Apple would continue making it for 20 years, long after every other manufacturer decided it was a ridiculous idea.

You may as well stick an LCD on the side of a mid or full tower case, and lug it around claiming you have the ultimate laptop. If it's a desktop it doesn't need portability so make something servable that won't overheat, if it needs to be portable, then use micro technology and sacrifice performance. Don't say 'gee, lets use laptop bits, and then make it have no portability' thats fucking stupid no matter who you are.

You have lost any and all potential credibility, and I'm just sorry that you're so brain washed you can't even understand why you are wrong.

The iMac is the only one in it's class.

That is why all 10 of the top 10 computer manufacturers make at least one.

Wait, by your logic, all the other 9 top computer manufacturers don't exist. GO APPLE. At least do 2 minutes of research before you declare almost all of the mainstream PC market nonexistent, and if not, stupid. And I am the retarded one.

By the way, the desktop I built gets 110 fps at 2560x1440, all ultra settings. I know what it is like to use a gaming computer. And I will buy a new iMac when this one breaks in about 7 years, given apple's reliability.

Apple's reliability, wow what a trump card.

Oh hang on a second, is it?

Why does Apple have such a 'good' return policy. Bit of a scam really, they make several cheap products in mass quantities, keeping several in reserve because they 'know' the products will break down. So that when you inevitably walk in with a broken product they just say, 'here just take a new free one, we're too stupid to know how to solve your problem'. They can afford to do it right now because they've conned so many people into joining their cult.

Much like you actually.

I really do feel sorry for you. Show me the screenshot with 110FPS at 2560x1440, go on, show me, Ctrl + Alt + F... Unless you're running a Mac, then I can't help you.

Also, how much did this mega machine cost? 5 grand? 10 grand maybe? With a screen that stupidly large, it couldn't possibly be 2MS could it now?

Ah research. Wonderful thing, surprising that you've heard of it actually, here, let me show you some for your education.

A1 - "As usual , Gartner did not cover Apple's worldwide market share for the quarter, as the company does not rank among the top five vendors on a worldwide basis."

Let?s go to the horse?s mouth shall we?

B1 - "Worldwide PC shipments totaled 84.3 million units in the first quarter of 2010."

Take a guess at how many of them were produced by Apple's factories, and then take a guess if that number accounts for any significance in any other market, other than the US.

Very few, and no significance are the correct answers.

B1 http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1353330

A1 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/12/apples-share-of-u-s-pc-market-leaps-to-12-9-in-3q-2011/

Here?s a few exciting nuggets of information for you too.

C1 - Windows Vista users, alone, exceed total Mac OS X users by nearly 4% of the total market.

In terms of ratio, Windows operating systems outweigh Mac OS X by more than 9.4:1.

Mobile phones? Don't even bother, the market is swarmming with fleets of Android phones, Apple are only 1 make, their products are closed minded, and have not captured enough sheep to dominant the market.

C1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

Do you understand why, your claimed manufaturers, whatever you said, make a device similar to an iMac? They don't do it in hopes of it ever become a real alternative to a proper quint essentially true, Desktop computer, they only do it because they can. They aren?t very successful, they all know they aren?t very good, but if they don?t make something like it, then yes, the minority of idiots who want something like that, will be more inclined to buy the iMac. So the iMac really is still the only one in its class, well, the only one in the class that takes the 'class' seriously.

In the world of Desktop computers, this includes PCs, i/Macs, you have about three main options

Option 1. Buy a built to order PC from a manufacturer
Option 2. Buy a built to order x/Mac from Apple
Option 3. Buy all the components required for a PC and assemble

The majority of the world, thankfully, opt for options 1 and 3. There are some like you, who opt for multiple options, as I suppose many of us do actually, however you include Option 2.

You?ve been conned. You?re spending more money, and receiving a less sophisticated, less customizable, less powerful, and less reliable machine, when your alternative is to think smart, and buy the cheaper, faster, accessible, configurable and safer machine in the PC.

Done and done.

 

[redisforever]

No. But you can have 5 GB of RAM. A 4 GB stick, and a 1 GB stick. Also BS.

 

[YawningAngel]

"THEN spend at least $3,000 bucks on a new, up-to-date gaming rig."

A great gaming rig wouldn't cost anywhere near that much. As for Macs, you'd need to dual boot with Windows, and it can be somewhat of a pain.

It takes a whole 2 minutes of idiot proof instructions to do, courtesy of apple. So much misinformation going on up in this *****.

They're not that idiot proof, I can cope with the Gentoo install and I still managed to screw them up.

You managed to screw bootcamp up, or gentoo install up? Because I don't know of someone who could mess up the bootcamp process...

The Bootcamp. And when I say I screwed it up, I mean I followed the instructions to the letter and they didn't work.

What happened? I have done it on 3 or 4 different macs, and never had an issue (Except one time I messed up the windows installation)

Windows utilities to allow me to choose which OS to boot wouldn't install.

I am confused. Choosing which OS to boot can be done simply by holding down option on startup.

A useful piece of information totally undocumented in the instructions.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Oh OS fail. Anyways, no Windows games don't run on Mac. Mac have a complete different architecture and thing that runs the graphics on windows, directX, isn't available for Mac meaning that they have to do graphic differently. Also your friend doesn't know what "install" means. Install inherent means the transfer of data onto your computer. Things don't come per-installed unless the person making the system put it on there. (And no, companies don't go out and install expensive PC games on your PC before you buy it for free).
You can have 5 GB of RAM by install a 4 GB stick and a 1 GB stick. It's unusual since its better to install 2 equally sized sticks. Thus 8GB = 4+4 or 4 = 2+2 instead of 1+4. If I were you, I'd never trust your friend on computer knowledge ever again since he's obviously totally screw up or a chronic liar.

 

[NewClassic_v1legacy]

All in ones came into this when people started saying the iMac was overpriced, and yet nobody here has been able to find a computer in it's class that can match it.

Just for funsies. I'll give you that iMac does have higher spec versions, but we are talking about pricing, not maximum capability.


 
HP
iMac
Difference


Screen Size
21.5"
21.5"
0"


Processor
2.8 Ghz
2.8 Ghz
0 Ghz


RAM
8 GB
8 GB
0 GB


HD
1 TB
1 TB
0 bytes


Graphics
1 GB
512 MB
512 MB


Cost
$1,400
$1,900
$500



In terms of price-per-dollar, matching the specs as best I can, you're actually paying about 30% more for the iMac (before factoring in the purchasing of a 64-bit Windows to use that amount of RAM on), and that's even discounting the rebates and special offers HP has going at time of writing. (It would've been $1,100 otherwise, or a difference of about 42%.) It's hard to rate the video cards because of the different amount of dedicated RAM compared to the other aspects of the card. I'm not much of a hardware guru, but I'd argue they're both pretty middling, in terms of power.

But, pound-for-pound, the iMac is significantly more expensive than the HP.

 

[AbnormalFetus]

Ok, im not going to comment on the money or pricepoint or how much bullshit that guy said about macs as it has been said before in the thread.
But I guess I can leave my own experience with MAC vs PC for games. I have been useing macs for work for over 10 years now and all I can say is I love macs for work, and I think OS X eats windows for breakfeast. But this is all in the context of my work. When it comes to games, in my own experience macs is they have never really managed to run them propperly.
Both games i have run that are made for mac OS (Like Starcraft 2), and games i have run in windows with bootcamp have had waaaaaay more issues then they do on my pc. My pc is a 3 years old gaming pc. Even with better specs my mac just can't seem to run the games as good as my pc.
I have to mention that i use a mac powerbook so it may be unfair to compare it to a desktop pc. But my laptop has better hardware specs then my pc and it dosent seem to help. Bottom line. I have allways seen games run better on windows, macs are great machines, but they are not made for gaming.

 

[DustStorm]

An Intel based Mac can run PC games after you use Bootcamp to install Windows 7 onto it. Bootcamp, by the way, is a program that partitions your hard drive and starts the Windows installation after you insert a valid copy of Windows into your DVD Drive. Once you've installed Windows 7 it is just like any other PC.

"All PC games can run on Mac. They were designed on Macs. You put it in and, BOOM, it's loaded. No installing, no waiting, it's in there instantly.

That statement is completely incorrect. The only way to run a PC game on a Mac is to install Windows or buy the Mac version of the game. 99% of game developers develop their games on PC because it is much easier to port the game to consoles as the Xbox's development kit is on Windows and PCs are cheaper and so using PCs would minimize costs for a game developer. The last part is completely impossible, to play the game you have to transfer data to your hard drive unless it's a game which is playable from the DVD, I don't know of one, and tranfering a few GB of data from a DVD will take some time.

 

[matt87_50]

About your example: It is going to cost more to make something an all in one. Regardless of the fact that all in ones cost more money for less power, they still remain a large part of the PC market, a part that the iMac dominates year after year. If you want to compare something with an iMac, compare an all in one. I wouldn't go shouting about my iPad in an iPhone thread would I? People always have their preferences in OS, but Mac OS X has obvious advantages in nearly any professional field out there. The ONLY advantage I can see in windows is DirectX11. If you have some other reason feel free to tell me, then I can use my windows computer for something other then gaming. I agree though, if you want to play games and the work you are doing is not of top level importance, then get a windows computer.

hey, I'm not arguing that comparing apples with apples, Apple makes the best all in one. Apple have a remarkable attention to detail, and by doing everything themselves, they usually come out on top.

but the OP was asking what would be the best desktop computer for someone on a budget and wanting to play games.

he did not ask who makes the best all in one, he did not ask who makes the highest quality one, he did not ask who made the smallest one.

he asked about priceerformance for games, and other work. so I compared the best thing Apple offered to match these requests, and the best thing PC offered.

as I said, its not that Apple has failed in its attempts to meet these set of requirements, they simply have never tried. they don't make a computer for this market, simple as that. if they did, I would most certainly buy it (and then put windows on it ).

 

[brainslurper]

I wouldn't usually say this, but at least 75% of the people here have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Yes, you can certainly run windows games on a Mac. It takes about about 5 clicks to get windows installed on your mac, from there it can run windows just as well (And in some proven cases, better) then a windows native computer. And you still have all the advantages of OS X if you want to do professional work. The thing is, if you aren't going to take advantage of an OS X native system, then you are better of buying a cheaper (Less reliable) windows native computer.

Exactly what are these "proven cases" where running Windows on an iMac is better? It sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. They both use the same hardware architecture, except the stuff in iMacs is pathetically weak but comes in a shiny box and a huge price tag.

Here here! I second this above question. Please; bring on the proven cases, and I want to see how much more performance and extra $3000 gets you, with lesser components, please, I'm just dying to know how it's possible to pay more money, get less capable hardware, and yet still come out in front - is it magic man?

I wouldn't usually say this, but at least 75% of the people here have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Yes, you can certainly run windows games on a Mac. It takes about about 5 clicks to get windows installed on your mac, from there it can run windows just as well (And in some proven cases, better) then a windows native computer. And you still have all the advantages of OS X if you want to do professional work. The thing is, if you aren't going to take advantage of an OS X native system, then you are better of buying a cheaper (Less reliable) windows native computer.

Exactly what are these "proven cases" where running Windows on an iMac is better? It sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. They both use the same hardware architecture, except the stuff in iMacs is pathetically weak but comes in a shiny box and a huge price tag.

It was a big study by popular mechanics, it started as a simple windows native computer vs os x native computer of equal hardware. Also, about the price tag, I challenge you to find ANYTHING that can even remotely compete with an iMac.

Challenge accepted! Please read my above post for more details.

Then I challenge you, to tell me why, a laptop shoved into a monitor, could possibly ever compete with a real bonafied PC.

Okay, that is like me saying "My MacBook is better then your iPhone". Find an all in one.

No, its actually asking you to either withdraw your statement that a mac could possibly run better than a similar, check that, superior speced PC.

And furthermore, its my marketable desktop computer kicks the shit out of your marketable desktop computer, because it gives much more bang for much less buck.

So go on, give us the tests or withdraw the statement.

Like it or not, all in ones are a HUGE part of the PC market, one that apple is entirely dominating. Just like apple is dominating the ultraportable market.

Excuse me for saying this, as I intend no ill will.

Are you mentally retarded?

I shall, say again. Please provide the case studies, or conceed and be done with it.

iMacs, while 'yes' are "WONDERFUL!" all in ones *pukes* are pieces of shit, when it comes to graphics power.

Yes, they have a place in the market, for morons who can't connect a video cable into video card. Fark, if you're that dumb, then you deserve an iMac, serves those people right. It really shouldn't take a high IQ, to plug a video plug into a video card now can it? Oh well! Just waste more money on a soon to be dated computer because of sheer laziness.

Yay Apple!

My 2 year old iMac with an ATI 5750m is able to get 40fps on starcraft 2 on all ultra settings, under OS X, at 1440x2560, and that is decent to say the least. There is no computer in it's class that competes with it. Just admit it, and then we can move onto the MacBook air.

Yep, you are mentally retarded, and in lieu of this (oh, that means because you've confirmed it for me), I won't make fun of you any more.

I will say this, it is the best in class, because it is the only one 'in' its class, because shoving a laptop into a desktop screen, is a really stupid idea.

Tell me how much your machine cost?

I too have SC2, however I actually have a 'real' desktop computer (not a laptop pretending to be a desktop), which means in this case, a real graphics card, your 5750M would be fried before my 285GTX (that's what we call a real graphics card), even realised it was under pressure. I also have an i7 950, which is the 4th best desktop processor, in the world, coupled with the 285GTX, and while it is a DX10 card, to my knowledge it was the second best DX10 ever released, with 1GB of dedicated graphics ram, and it can deal a whole world of hurt.

Oh yeah, SC2? Too easy, 75 FPS (Full HD).

Look to be honest, if you had a laptop which had a 5750M card, and were getting 40 FPS, SC2 is tolerable, but thats all it is, tolerable. But you spent 4 or 5 times what is appropriate for a laptop, and got included with it an overpriced screen, then you got the handicap of them being shoved together, for no reason what so ever.

You're computer.

A. "Does not" run Windows better than any PC of the same or superior grade, you've failed to prove otherwise multiple times now.

B. Is also so stupid, only a company like Apple would continue making it for 20 years, long after every other manufacturer decided it was a ridiculous idea.

You may as well stick an LCD on the side of a mid or full tower case, and lug it around claiming you have the ultimate laptop. If it's a desktop it doesn't need portability so make something servable that won't overheat, if it needs to be portable, then use micro technology and sacrifice performance. Don't say 'gee, lets use laptop bits, and then make it have no portability' thats fucking stupid no matter who you are.

You have lost any and all potential credibility, and I'm just sorry that you're so brain washed you can't even understand why you are wrong.

The iMac is the only one in it's class.

That is why all 10 of the top 10 computer manufacturers make at least one.

Wait, by your logic, all the other 9 top computer manufacturers don't exist. GO APPLE. At least do 2 minutes of research before you declare almost all of the mainstream PC market nonexistent, and if not, stupid. And I am the retarded one.

By the way, the desktop I built gets 110 fps at 2560x1440, all ultra settings. I know what it is like to use a gaming computer. And I will buy a new iMac when this one breaks in about 7 years, given apple's reliability.

Apple's reliability, wow what a trump card.

Oh hang on a second, is it?

Why does Apple have such a 'good' return policy. Bit of a scam really, they make several cheap products in mass quantities, keeping several in reserve because they 'know' the products will break down. So that when you inevitably walk in with a broken product they just say, 'here just take a new free one, we're too stupid to know how to solve your problem'. They can afford to do it right now because they've conned so many people into joining their cult.

Much like you actually.

I really do feel sorry for you. Show me the screenshot with 110FPS at 2560x1440, go on, show me, Ctrl + Alt + F... Unless you're running a Mac, then I can't help you.

Also, how much did this mega machine cost? 5 grand? 10 grand maybe? With a screen that stupidly large, it couldn't possibly be 2MS could it now?

Ah research. Wonderful thing, surprising that you've heard of it actually, here, let me show you some for your education.

A1 - "As usual , Gartner did not cover Apple's worldwide market share for the quarter, as the company does not rank among the top five vendors on a worldwide basis."

Let?s go to the horse?s mouth shall we?

B1 - "Worldwide PC shipments totaled 84.3 million units in the first quarter of 2010."

Take a guess at how many of them were produced by Apple's factories, and then take a guess if that number accounts for any significance in any other market, other than the US.

Very few, and no significance are the correct answers.

B1 http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1353330

A1 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/12/apples-share-of-u-s-pc-market-leaps-to-12-9-in-3q-2011/

Here?s a few exciting nuggets of information for you too.

C1 - Windows Vista users, alone, exceed total Mac OS X users by nearly 4% of the total market.

In terms of ratio, Windows operating systems outweigh Mac OS X by more than 9.4:1.

Mobile phones? Don't even bother, the market is swarmming with fleets of Android phones, Apple are only 1 make, their products are closed minded, and have not captured enough sheep to dominant the market.

C1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

Do you understand why, your claimed manufaturers, whatever you said, make a device similar to an iMac? They don't do it in hopes of it ever become a real alternative to a proper quint essentially true, Desktop computer, they only do it because they can. They aren?t very successful, they all know they aren?t very good, but if they don?t make something like it, then yes, the minority of idiots who want something like that, will be more inclined to buy the iMac. So the iMac really is still the only one in its class, well, the only one in the class that takes the 'class' seriously.

In the world of Desktop computers, this includes PCs, i/Macs, you have about three main options

Option 1. Buy a built to order PC from a manufacturer
Option 2. Buy a built to order x/Mac from Apple
Option 3. Buy all the components required for a PC and assemble

The majority of the world, thankfully, opt for options 1 and 3. There are some like you, who opt for multiple options, as I suppose many of us do actually, however you include Option 2.

You?ve been conned. You?re spending more money, and receiving a less sophisticated, less customizable, less powerful, and less reliable machine, when your alternative is to think smart, and buy the cheaper, faster, accessible, configurable and safer machine in the PC.

Done and done.

I launched starcraft and got you your screenshot, even though you repeatedly call me retarded. That is how nice of a person I am. Unfortunately, I have no fucking idea where windows saved the screenshot. Got 112 fps on standard clock, but I decided to over clock everything, got it to 125 fps, until I got a gray screen, and the computer shut down. Should probably find out what that was. Don't call me incompetent, the cpu cooler and graphics card fans were on auto and were running far below capacity, and the temperatures were well within operable conditions. Probably my piece of shit motherboard.

Cost me about $1000, without windows, which for some reason I cannot fathom, costs $150 for a single license. Since you seem so interested in price, OS X Lion costs $30 for 5 licenses. If you want 5 windows licenses that match the RAM cap of lion, you need to pay over $700. I don't understand why you are bringing up market shares so much, but keep this in mind. iOS has 5 phones running on it, while android has hundreds. You can blame apple for not distributing it all you want, but the small line of phones is what keeps the app store from turning into the hardware specific mess that the android market has become (and the app store is STILL larger then the Android market). 27 inch screen isn't stupidly large. Basically, while my iMac is rendering and running servers 24/7, I just plug my gaming PC into it, and use the display as a monitor. Screenshot shortcut on mac is Shift-Command-3, in case you feel like trying something before you scrutinize it constantly.

Also, how do I create symbolic links in windows 7? It is pretty easy in OS X and ubuntu, but there doesn't seem to be an extension manager for the default windows file browser.

 

[brainslurper]

"THEN spend at least $3,000 bucks on a new, up-to-date gaming rig."

A great gaming rig wouldn't cost anywhere near that much. As for Macs, you'd need to dual boot with Windows, and it can be somewhat of a pain.

It takes a whole 2 minutes of idiot proof instructions to do, courtesy of apple. So much misinformation going on up in this *****.

They're not that idiot proof, I can cope with the Gentoo install and I still managed to screw them up.

You managed to screw bootcamp up, or gentoo install up? Because I don't know of someone who could mess up the bootcamp process...

The Bootcamp. And when I say I screwed it up, I mean I followed the instructions to the letter and they didn't work.

What happened? I have done it on 3 or 4 different macs, and never had an issue (Except one time I messed up the windows installation)

Windows utilities to allow me to choose which OS to boot wouldn't install.

I am confused. Choosing which OS to boot can be done simply by holding down option on startup.

A useful piece of information totally undocumented in the instructions.

That isn't in the instructions? I think I remember learning that from one of the pages when installing bootcamp. Maybe I am just psychic.

 

[brainslurper]

Okay, forums kind of shat on this comment. Sorry.

 

[The_R3d_Fury]

No.... just no.
Macs can play some not all.
Also RAM tends to go in even numbers so I think this guy may have been lying

Mac is in fact an operating system and a computer, whereas PC is just a computer. Windows is the platform that games are played on. I have installed Windows on my Mac and it plays PC games perfectly. Macs come with bootcamp pre installed these days, so installing Windows would be as easy on Mac as it would on a PC. Macs are preferable to me as I am making Machinima a lot and doing video editing along with music composition which just feels more streamlined and clean on a mac, But I'm planning on getting an Alienware or an origin. Look up Origin PCs if you want an affordable rig.

 

[Tristan Knope-Jenkins]

My computer runs most stuff reasonably well and only cost about $500... While for 3 grand you could probably run a couple of copys of crysis windowed why would you want to?

 

[somonels]

You should have been smart by buying a PC and installing the iOS on that.

 

[ResonanceSD]

First of all: Please read the whole post before posting. Thanks!

If this is not a troll thread, then


The "friend" you mentioned. Is a dumbass.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

This thread is still going? 9 pages of people saying the same thing. We get it, guys.