Why would you try to slide your lightsaber down another lightsaber? Sounds like your just asking to get them twisted.
All the Jedi and Sith should have been without hands, NO EXCEPTIONS
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This is pretty much the answer. If sliding had been a thing, there would have been crossguards to correct a design flaw.tippy2k2 said:
Exactly. People will let the most fantastical things go without comment except for some very nitpicky things they suddenly have a problem with, which is ridiculously hypocritical.TheVampwizimp said:
The Crossguard lightsaber revealed in the Episode 7 trailer is actually one of the safer and more sensible lightsaber designs. The crossguard protects the wielder from accidentally slipping their hand along the hilt and into the blade, (people seem to somehow fail to notice the secondary blades come out an inch away from the main hilt via emitters) whether lightsabers can slide or not is irrelevant as even if they could any Force User worth his salt would not be so inattentive as to permit that, the secondary blades allow slightly greater coverage for defense and attack, and if the secondary blades could be turned on and off independent of the main blade it could even be used at a surprise attack during a saber lock. Besides, anyone who would use a lightsaber like that would be skilled in it's use thus the risk to themselves would be minimal.
Police and military switch to either carbine rifles or sub-machine guns for close quarters or confined fire fights. A full rifle is not an ideal weapon for tight spaces since the length of the barrel means you have to lower your weapon when maneuvering in tight spots, as well as the added issue of someone rushing into your personal space (up close it is very easy to keep a rifle from being able to point at you, whereas a smaller weapon can be turned at the wrist to obtain a shot on the enemy).thaluikhain said:
Those who think that it can't slide should watch the Obi-Wan vs General Grievous scene from Episode 3. It slides alright. That's how Obi-Wan chopped of Grievous' hand.
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But none of this crap actually matters. What matters is that lightsabers are cool. Variations of lightsabers are cool as well. I have no problem with standard lightsabers, staff sabers or lightsabers with cross guards. They're all freakin' cool and the Jedi know how to use them properly because of reasons. It's not something that you should overthink.
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But none of this crap actually matters. What matters is that lightsabers are cool. Variations of lightsabers are cool as well. I have no problem with standard lightsabers, staff sabers or lightsabers with cross guards. They're all freakin' cool and the Jedi know how to use them properly because of reasons. It's not something that you should overthink.
First off, only a sith deals in absolutes. Some saber-wielders are just that good.
Second, robotic hands and other prosthesis are very common in the Star Wars universe. Even if they did lose limbs during training, etc., there is no reason to go without hands.
Third, unlike metal swords, Lightsabers don't slide lengthwise. Watch the fights and uses carefully: they can parry but not envelop, they can block but not riposte, and they cross and lock with incredible frequency. Even Greivous, who specialized in unorthodox swordsmanship and slaying of Jedi, never once tagged a hand.
Second, robotic hands and other prosthesis are very common in the Star Wars universe. Even if they did lose limbs during training, etc., there is no reason to go without hands.
Third, unlike metal swords, Lightsabers don't slide lengthwise. Watch the fights and uses carefully: they can parry but not envelop, they can block but not riposte, and they cross and lock with incredible frequency. Even Greivous, who specialized in unorthodox swordsmanship and slaying of Jedi, never once tagged a hand.
Shouldnt there be, like at least one guy running around who still has his hands? Because he chopped theirs off before they chopped off his.
You know, this is the kind of thing the Doylist/Watsonian explanation dichotomy was created. It is related to Arthur Conan Doyle and the Sherlock Holmes series, where any inconsistencies found by the persistent fans (yes, there were fans back there, they just wrote letters instead of forum posts) could be approached from two directions: In-universe or from the other side of the fourth wall. Say, for example, let's presume that in a Holmes story the killer makes a blatant mistake that somehow still managed to get by the titular master detective.
The Watsonian explanation is the one using in-universe lore and knowledge to correct in incongruity. Say, Holmes was distracted because he received a head-wound earlier in the story. Or he noticed it but he thought it was so blatant that he considered it a misdirection and never examined it closely.
The Doylist explanation on the other hand would be something related to the work or the author. Say, the author simply didn't notice the mistake. Or maybe there was a printing error, or one of the editors changed the script to correct something and accidentally introduced a spoiler.
So, how does that relate to this question? Let's see our options.
The Watsonian explanation for why there are no cross-guards on lightsabers are many. Maybe the magnetic fields keeping the plasma of the blade contained don't let them slip. Maybe it has to do with the force abilities of the user. Maybe it is for ease of concealment. Maybe it's because of technological limitations, like the original lightsabers being created in an era when lighsaber-proof materials were not yet invented and therefore there was no point in creating a cross-guard.
The Doylist explanations are just as varied. First and foremost, Lucas never thought the things would become so ubiquitous, and thus didn't really think through how fighting with them would work. Or maybe it's because of brand-recognition; as the guard-less lightsaber became so iconic that they didn't dare to change it.
In the end it is probably a mixture of both in-universe and real life explanations, but the mere fact that it needs an explanation tells us that the issue is in need of closer examination and possibly coming up with a canonical solution for it.
The Watsonian explanation is the one using in-universe lore and knowledge to correct in incongruity. Say, Holmes was distracted because he received a head-wound earlier in the story. Or he noticed it but he thought it was so blatant that he considered it a misdirection and never examined it closely.
The Doylist explanation on the other hand would be something related to the work or the author. Say, the author simply didn't notice the mistake. Or maybe there was a printing error, or one of the editors changed the script to correct something and accidentally introduced a spoiler.
So, how does that relate to this question? Let's see our options.
The Watsonian explanation for why there are no cross-guards on lightsabers are many. Maybe the magnetic fields keeping the plasma of the blade contained don't let them slip. Maybe it has to do with the force abilities of the user. Maybe it is for ease of concealment. Maybe it's because of technological limitations, like the original lightsabers being created in an era when lighsaber-proof materials were not yet invented and therefore there was no point in creating a cross-guard.
The Doylist explanations are just as varied. First and foremost, Lucas never thought the things would become so ubiquitous, and thus didn't really think through how fighting with them would work. Or maybe it's because of brand-recognition; as the guard-less lightsaber became so iconic that they didn't dare to change it.
In the end it is probably a mixture of both in-universe and real life explanations, but the mere fact that it needs an explanation tells us that the issue is in need of closer examination and possibly coming up with a canonical solution for it.
Even then, I don't think it's sliding (or if it is, it is of barest of contact).Adam Jensen said:Those who think that it can't slide should watch the Obi-Wan vs General Grievous scene from Episode 3. It slides alright. That's how Obi-Wan chopped of Grievous' hand.
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But none of this crap actually matters. What matters is that lightsabers are cool. Variations of lightsabers are cool as well. I have no problem with standard lightsabers, staff sabers or lightsabers with cross guards. They're all freakin' cool and the Jedi know how to use them properly because of reasons. It's not something that you should overthink.
Obi-Wan swings almost straight up and down in the first shot. In the second shot, Grevious's blade is also almost straight up. Looking at that, it looks like Grevious is attempting to block the shot but just fails miserably as the blades either don't contact or have little enough contact that they are able to break from each other anyway.
So it's kind of like having two powerful magnets that are of opposite polarity; they want to stick together but with enough force at the right angle, you can still push magnets past each other without allowing them to stick together.
...that's it! Lightsabers are really hot magnets! I cracked the code!
I'm thinking if that's what immediately springs to mind when we hear that eye for an eye quote we may be what's wrong with the world lol.snappydog said:
Can't take my eye if I get you first!
It's not only about blades sliding. Hands and arms are the most vulnerable body parts in fights, because they're usually in front of your body and closer to your enemy.
Did you know it's also impossible to move objects using a quasi-spiritual energy, a force if you will? It's true. As long as the series obeys its own internal logic, I don't really think it matters. The reason it doesn't have a cross guard is because a cross guard would look incredibly stupid. Unless your J.J. Abrams, apparently.