Am About to play Mass Effect 3

[Fappy]

Let Marauder Shields win.

You will thank me later.

Also, this

'Who is Marauder Shields?' I hear you say.

You'll know.

And when it happens.

Let him win.

Never forget.

He tried to warn us. He tried to stop us. He held the line when no one else could.

 

[AnarchistFish]

It won't ruin the whole game for you, but the ending is a disappointing finish to all the preceding greatness. I'm kinda pretending it didn't happen.

 

[wooty]

Just play the game, enjoy the hell out of it and be grown up about it.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

OK, so My copy of Mass Effect 3 comes tomorrow, And I've managed to avoid having the ending spoiled for me so far, all I know is that it is apparently disappointing to the point where my comrades-in-arms are all polymorphed into Giant Squids of Anger. What I have to ask is this.

Is all the rage justified? I mean really, unbiased, objectively is the ending THAT BAD that it deserves this kind of unified outrage? I don't think i've ever seen such a massive fallout from how an otherwise much loved series failure.

Thoughts?

Impressive to have avoided spoilers this far into release.

99% of the game is amazing. The final 10 minutes is widely seen as a poor way to end such a beloved trilogy. Judge for yourself. I hate the ending somewhat passionately but I love the actual game enough to be on my third playthrough.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

...and grows in shittiness directly proportional to how big of a fan you are and how much time you spend thinking about it.

This is a very good point. The ending is bad on a first look, but really starts to crumble under more intense analysis. The best thing you can do is say "I GUESS THAT'S THAT" in a loud voice seconds after finishing the game, and then immediately try to blast it from your mind. A sharp blow to the head might do it.

 

[RJ 17]

Snip

To be clear, I'm not trying to stand up for Bioware or defend their actions in the least, basically what I'm saying is that both parties - to be specific the Retake ME movement and Bioware - were acting like a bunch of dicks.

I'm just saying how I think things would have turned out if Bioware didn't do what they did to appease people, which would have indeed and most certainly ended poorly for Bioware. My point, though, is that it wasn't right for things like the Retake ME movement to get started in the first place.

That doesn't mean Bioware owes you a better ending. The same way the author of a series of books doesn't owe you a new ending if you didn't like the way the series ended. The same way a movie studio doesn't owe you a new ending if you didn't like how the movie ended.

You don't ask for a better ending, you write a review and say the ending sucked and that Bioware blew it. Yeah, it seems like you're just jackin' off when you do that, buuuuuuut up until ME 3, I've never seen a group of fans demand that a game's ending be changed (not saying it hasn't happened, just saying I've never seen it). I've seen PLENTY of reviews that said "The game was pretty fun, yadda yadda yadda, the ending was absolute and complete shit." for games like Rage, for instance. In this ideal situation of mine, faced with so many bad reviews, Bioware would get the ME 3 team back together and point out all the reviews and be like "You know what fellas? These reviews are right...our ending DOES suck. We're better than this, we can DO better than this. Let's make something that better explains the ending (or whatever they intend to do with the extended cut)." Bioware says they care about their beloved fans and that they're always listening. If this were true, I honestly don't think the scenario I just mentioned is that big of a stretch. This way, NO ONE has to be labeled with the title "Big bag o' dicks."

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

OK, so My copy of Mass Effect 3 comes tomorrow, And I've managed to avoid having the ending spoiled for me so far, all I know is that it is apparently disappointing to the point where my comrades-in-arms are all polymorphed into Giant Squids of Anger. What I have to ask is this.

Is all the rage justified? I mean really, unbiased, objectively is the ending THAT BAD that it deserves this kind of unified outrage? I don't think i've ever seen such a massive fallout from how an otherwise much loved series failure.

Thoughts?

Basically the Plot is retarded.
The rest of the game is great, the individual quests are awesome, the characters are great.
There are even some great moments within the main story but overall the plot is really weak and this is hyper intensified during the ending.

Does it make the game bad? Hell no i enjoyed almost every second of it but the ending is definitely one of the worst parts.

Was the rage justified? Probably not but i don't think the gaming press helped with it, infact if i were really cynical about it i'd say they were purposefully fanning the flames to generate traffic.

Just enjoy the game but don't expect too much from the ending.

Also, congrats on actually avoiding spoilers this long, i had some details spoiled for me before it was even out in the UK =[

 

[Phlakes]

OK, so My copy of Mass Effect 3 comes tomorrow, And I've managed to avoid having the ending spoiled for me so far, all I know is that it is apparently disappointing to the point where my comrades-in-arms are all polymorphed into Giant Squids of Anger. What I have to ask is this.

Is all the rage justified? I mean really, unbiased, objectively is the ending THAT BAD that it deserves this kind of unified outrage? I don't think i've ever seen such a massive fallout from how an otherwise much loved series failure.

Thoughts?

Just go into it with an open mind. If you do that, I guarantee that at the very least you won't be wanting to go the the FTC.

 

[synobal]

OK, so My copy of Mass Effect 3 comes tomorrow, And I've managed to avoid having the ending spoiled for me so far, all I know is that it is apparently disappointing to the point where my comrades-in-arms are all polymorphed into Giant Squids of Anger. What I have to ask is this.

Is all the rage justified? I mean really, unbiased, objectively is the ending THAT BAD that it deserves this kind of unified outrage? I don't think i've ever seen such a massive fallout from how an otherwise much loved series failure.

Thoughts?

I've played all the mass effect games, I've got like 250 hours in mass effect 2 alone. I can tell you this Mass Effect 3 for me was absolutely amazing, including the ending. I was baffled at all the rage about the end. I still don't get all the rage either but what ever I can't change the Internets collective out rage. My suggestion is just play the game and enjoy it.

 

[AbstractStream]

Wow, kudos for avoiding spoilers this long OP.

The game is great, don't worry about that. Play the game, not even thinking about the ending and when the time comes, well then the time comes. Just don't go into the ending thinking it's going to suck. You'll know it's coming when you have to go to Earth...is that a spoiler? Sorry, I think.

Just go in prepared is what I gotta say. Who knows, you might be in the few that actually likes the ending. Crazy, but just might happen.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I'm just saying how I think things would have turned out if Bioware didn't do what they did to appease people, which would have indeed and most certainly ended poorly for Bioware. My point, though, is that it wasn't right for things like the Retake ME movement to get started in the first place.

The "Retake Movement" was actually really tame and polite when it started. Bioware couldn't stop praising them for their good manners and constructive feedback. The problem is that eventually EVERY angry outburst EVER got associated with that "movement".

I also think they're being really stubborn, and setting their sights too high, in their refusal to give the Extended Edition a chance. Bioware was never going to fully retcon that awful ending. The problem is that while 90% of people poll as hating the ending, they all hate it for different reasons. That there are this many reasons to hate it is amazing, but that's not really the point. The point is there's no one way for Bioware to address this that will please everyone. They chose a low impact way that everyone watching this debacle could have easily predicted. It'd be nice if Retake could give it a chance instead of digging in further.

You don't ask for a better ending, you write a review and say the ending sucked and that Bioware blew it.

Well this forum been over it and over it and we shant hijack this thread with this tiresome debate, but yes you can ask. There's no rule that says you can't ask. Bioware doesn't have to listen, but as we've discussed it was always in their best interest to listen.

The fact that people are even bothering to ask is a sign of RESPECT towards the IP. They want to fix something broken, instead of just writing it off as shit. That's pretty remarkable, actually.

 

[Madkipz]

Actually...yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying. The fans started acting like a bunch of dicks which prompted Bioware to start acting like dicks which leaves the fans with one of two options:

1: "Well, we were acting like a bunch of dicks. Let's all just move on with our lives and chalk this one up to being a horrible failure of an ending."
2: "Well fuck Bioware then! See if they get a single cent of my money ever again!"

Well, no, see. That's a misrepresentation of events. "The fans" were not acting like a bunch of dicks. A certain, small percentage of fans acted like dicks, and their actions were allowed to color the collective dissatisfaction of the whole as "entitlement", or whatever idiotic buzzword you care to slap on it. Now, even if all you did was quietly express disappointment, you're an "entitled crybaby"...because if anything demonstrates that you're speaking from a position of moral authority it's hurling invectives at total strangers.

So now, I guess, your perspective is that because we bought it, we can expect Bioware to have a chortle, and flip us the bird, and troll us via IGN? And just not address anything anyone was asking for, because their feathers were ruffled by a handful of assholes, as if vocally unhappy customers were some new phenomenon, and no one in any service industry has ever had to deal with them patiently before? You're damn right that would be a company I wouldn't be giving any more money to. What would be the sense in that? They're a fucking business. I expect them to act like professionals, not pull some 3rd grade "HE STARTED IT" nonsense and have a fit in the media. I mean, I guess that's a good way to go, if you've decided you're done with the whole "selling games" thing, and now you're off to hunt snipes or collect hummel figurines or whatever else people do when they've lost their minds.

But you know, whatever. That's not what happened. The extended edition is coming, and I'm prepared to give it a chance before deciding whether or not I trust these guys enough to continue paying them to tell me stories. They didn't flip me the bird, because that would have been corporate suicide. It's nice you think it would've been funny and appropriate, but I guess that's why none of us are CEOs of game developers.

HHAHAHA extended "CUTSCENE" edition. At this point I don't care if its a 5 minute long cinematic of mr.Hudson saying how sorry he is or if it actually clarifies 5 of the 100 plot-holes that the ending created. Fact still remains that they rushed the ending, treated us like shit while gamers in general did everything they could to appear as mature as possible (Retake mass effect, cupcakes and large youtube segmented video's explaining just why the ending sucks).

Quite literally everyone that called us entitled man children did no research, and just stood on their vocal soapbox spouting what is essentially uninformed nonsense while half our support jumped ship on the fucking indoctrination theory like a bunch of moronic sheep.

How can you in the face of EA stonewalling and the Bioware blogs, PAX event treatment still be willing to buy their games when the so called "star wars" of our generation is just a poorly written, chest-high wall simulator. <,<

Mass effect 3's ending to the mass effect universe is broken.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

HHAHAHA extended "CUTSCENE" edition.

...and? Sometimes a cut scene is enough. I've always said that the likeliest scenario is they upgrade the ending from abomination to "poor", but a poor ending never would've had so many people up in arms to begin with. Yes, it would be nice if the ending was AWESOME, but that ship has sailed.

You really don't need to lecture me on the entitlement crusade or EA's bad behavior. I am the choir. Stop preaching to me.

 

[Michael Austin]

Mass Effect 3 is a good game and that's all you really need to know. Enjoy it for what it is, but don't expect anything of the ending, you can judge it for yourself when you get there but I doubt you will be overly pleased.

 

[Vanitas likes Bubbles]

In short, this:

You really enjoy sharing that picture around don't you?

OT: I thought the ending was just kinda meh. Wasn't bad but it wasn't good either.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

You really enjoy sharing that picture around don't you?

I do wish someone would share some of the FUNNY webcomics that have been put out on this issue. Instead we keep getting the same painfully stupid one. Whatever happened to brevity is the soul of wit?

 

[RJ 17]

My avatar still makes RJ chuckle.

I'll hijack any topic I please! But seriously, you're right, this conversation has been had plenty of times over and over again. I've said my piece, you've said yours, I won't continue.

I will point this out, though:

I also think they're being really stubborn, and setting their sights too high, in their refusal to give the Extended Edition a chance.

HHAHAHA extended "CUTSCENE" edition. At this point I don't care if its a 5 minute long cinematic of mr.Hudson saying how sorry he is or if it actually clarifies 5 of the 100 plot-holes that the ending created. Fact still remains that they rushed the ending, treated us like shit while gamers in general did everything they could to appear as mature as possible (Retake mass effect, cupcakes and large youtube segmented video's explaining just why the ending sucks).

Quite literally everyone that called us entitled man children did no research, and just stood on their vocal soapbox spouting what is essentially uninformed nonsense while half our support jumped ship on the fucking indoctrination theory like a bunch of moronic sheep.

How can you in the face of EA stonewalling and the Bioware blogs, PAX event treatment still be willing to buy their games when the so called "star wars" of our generation is just a poorly written, chest-high wall simulator. <,<

Mass effect 3's ending to the mass effect universe is broken.

Think that about proves your point.

...and grows in shittiness directly proportional to how big of a fan you are and how much time you spend thinking about it.

This is a very good point. The ending is bad on a first look, but really starts to crumble under more intense analysis. The best thing you can do is say "I GUESS THAT'S THAT" in a loud voice seconds after finishing the game, and then immediately try to blast it from your mind. A sharp blow to the head might do it.

Actually I was apparently one of the few people that didn't openly rage at the ending. A friend of mine was in party chat when he beat the game (before me) and good god you should have heard the rage. At one point I think he got possessed and started speaking in tongues followed by incoherent gibbering and bouts of open weeping.

I didn't really even notice the plothole involving the squadmates disembarking from the Normandy at the end when they shouldn't have been there (because they were making the final assault with Shepard on Earth) until someone here mentioned it. My biggest disappointment was that, after reloading the autosave that takes place just before you fight Marauder Shields, I saw how same-ish all the endings were.

 

[Detective Prince]

Jesus Christ, how did you avoid spoilers THIS long? You, my friend, are a saint. XD You must have locked yourself in a small cubicle for months.

Anyway. The game is good up till the end so ya know. Enjoy it while it lasts because it really is good.

 

[RJ 17]

You really enjoy sharing that picture around don't you?

I do wish someone would share some of the FUNNY webcomics that have been put out on this issue. Instead we keep getting the same painfully stupid one. Whatever happened to brevity is the soul of wit?

Ask and you shall receive!!!

>.> except on the whole brevity thing.