Am I in the wrong?

[Kinguendo]

Really? People just believe stories like this now?

Hey guys, did you hear? I took out a guy twice the size of me with a single punch, the doctors say I nearly killed him. Was that wrong of me? T_T

Did you say "Tough break, kid" after you broke his arm too?! XD

I just dont find this story to be believable at all.

What this guy said he did, isnt that unbelievable. he dragged someone smaller than him into an alley and punched him in the face, at which point, the kid pulled a knife. Here's a little secret: a knife isnt that good of a weapon, unless you really know how to use it. When you dont, using one is more likely to get yourself hurt, than anyone else.

I dont recall getting this guys age OR height. And the knife thing... he said he lunged for him so he clearly didnt hurt himself, he had the knife out and lunged. They were in an alley where this chap had just punched the kid in the face... so he had to be in arms length... This guy dodged a lunge from a knife at arms length and then had his wits about him to also break the kids arm (bearing in mind this kid has a knife) straight after he dodges... come on.

not hard at all. the kid would have, most likely, been pushed back by the punch, and the kid didnt lunge right away, since the guy had time to warn him. And you would be surprised how easy it is to break someones arm when they lunge out at u like that, sometimes it would even be the same motion that blocked. Out of curiousity, have you ever been in a fight or had martial arts training? I have had the misfortune of being bullied physically, and ive been in a few fights because of it, and ive had a very small amount of martial arts trainging, and i know i could do what this guy said he could do, it really isnt that hard. Had the kid lunged the instant he pulled the knife, it would have been a different story, but he hesitated, thats what u get.

D-do you think he dragged him out into the alley... and then placed him in the middle of it? NO! When you drag someone out into an alley you throw them against the wall or push them against the wall. You dont position them in the middle.

And yes, I have been training in Muay Thai for a couple of months now... I made a thread about it. A lot of people talked about different martial arts... it was nice.

I dont believe someone who asks us to believe him without stating he had some kind of training, how much older they are than this person or how much bigger they are than this person.

If I told you that I (a 20 year old, 6'4 guy) could knock out a 10 year old girl you would believe me... but without the information you could justifiably assume I was also a 10 year old girl, then it gets tricky.

 

[spartan231490]

Nice!

Fuck yeah!

/sarcasm.

You were probably in the wrong. This kid might just have been an asshole for the sake of it, but he might have a shitty home life. And he's just taking it out on someone else.

this kind of bullshit pisses me the frack off. so he had a hard home life, who doesnt? at the end of the day, that doesnt mean he isnt responsible for his own actions. A lot of things in todays society do this, they tell you to take responsibility for your actions, and then they encourage you to blame anyone and everyone else for when u make a mistake. The kid shouldnt have been doing what he was doing, and he a got a punch in the face for it, he'd have been fine in hour if he hadnt pulled a knife. once again, he made a bad decision and he should have to live with the mother fracking consequences.
sorry, people not taking responsibility for their own decisions is kind of a pet-peeve of mine.

What I said have anything to do with taking responsibility for your actions. I agree he should, but those actions could be prevented by his situation.

You heavily implied that the kid can't be held accountable for his bullying of other kids if he has a hard home life. Last time I looked, just cuz ur dad kicks ur a$$ 4 times a day, it doesnt mean that it isnt your fault when you decide to take it out on someone else. Key word: decide. If you accept teh premise that it is his decision to bully or not to bully, than everything else is a mute point, he made the choice, so he has to be held accountable and accept the consequences. If you didn't mean to imply that, im sorry i ranted, but you did make the implication, weather u intended to or not.

 

[Kinguendo]

Really? People just believe stories like this now?

Hey guys, did you hear? I took out a guy twice the size of me with a single punch, the doctors say I nearly killed him. Was that wrong of me? T_T

Did you say "Tough break, kid" after you broke his arm too?! XD

I just dont find this story to be believable at all.

What this guy said he did, isnt that unbelievable. he dragged someone smaller than him into an alley and punched him in the face, at which point, the kid pulled a knife. Here's a little secret: a knife isnt that good of a weapon, unless you really know how to use it. When you dont, using one is more likely to get yourself hurt, than anyone else.

OH YEAH?! Well I danced so awesome-ly that I traveled back in time and kissed Hitler... WITH TONGUE! Told him it was called a Jewish Kiss (Or a Jew-K-ish) and he went ape shit about it, then I strutted out of Berlin listening to Play That Funky Music White Boy... which wasnt even written then.

You believe me right?!

I explained why what he said was believable. If you have some trouble understanding it, you can look up the words you dont understand in a dictionary.

Oh, and if you actually want to disagree with me, maybe u should explain why you think im wrong instead of just being an a$$hole.

Actually that was posted to the wrong person... awfully defensive, if you looked through the replies I recieved you could see which I meant to reply to. Its fairly obvious.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Well I guess the more important question is will he bully my friend's brother again?

I'm going to go with hell no on this one.
Also, i think legally you could be charged with assault for hitting him the first time, before he pulled the knife on you. However if he where to try and sue over this, he has a lot more charges you could file against him. So legally, unless he's a total moron, you should be fine.
Morally I think you where more than justified.

 

[spartan231490]

Really? People just believe stories like this now?

Hey guys, did you hear? I took out a guy twice the size of me with a single punch, the doctors say I nearly killed him. Was that wrong of me? T_T

Did you say "Tough break, kid" after you broke his arm too?! XD

I just dont find this story to be believable at all.

What this guy said he did, isnt that unbelievable. he dragged someone smaller than him into an alley and punched him in the face, at which point, the kid pulled a knife. Here's a little secret: a knife isnt that good of a weapon, unless you really know how to use it. When you dont, using one is more likely to get yourself hurt, than anyone else.

OH YEAH?! Well I danced so awesome-ly that I traveled back in time and kissed Hitler... WITH TONGUE! Told him it was called a Jewish Kiss (Or a Jew-K-ish) and he went ape shit about it, then I strutted out of Berlin listening to Play That Funky Music White Boy... which wasnt even written then.

You believe me right?!

I explained why what he said was believable. If you have some trouble understanding it, you can look up the words you dont understand in a dictionary.

Oh, and if you actually want to disagree with me, maybe u should explain why you think im wrong instead of just being an a$$hole.

Actually that was posted to the wrong person... awfully defensive, if you looked through the replies I recieved you could see which I meant to reply to. Its fairly obvious.

my apologies, i havent had a chance to look through the threads again, ive been too busy replying to the quotes blowing up my inbox, ive just been checking my inbox and replying when i feel it necessary.

 

[Siuki]

Alright, so here is what happened, one of my friends' younger brother has been getting bullied all year round by another grade 9 kid and me and my friend have told this kid four times that if he kept bullying my friend's younger brother we were going to beat him until he cried. So here's my background with this kid... just thought it would be important to explain the situation first.

So last week-end I was at a popular local band's show with a couple of friends when I saw the kid bullying my friend's younger brother so rather than warning him a fifth time i dragged him to an alley and punched him in the face once, he got up and pulled a knife on me so I warned that if he didn't put it away he would have to drag him self out of the alley. Unfortunately the little shit ignored the warning so when he lunged at me I broke his arm and ran his face against the fence in the alley. Needless to say he was on the ground crying when I walked out of the alley.

So I was just wondering was I in the wrong to do that? and do you think the little shit will be stupid enough to bully my friend's brother again?

Edit: The more important Question is do you think he's going to bully my friend's brother again?

I have a feeling that kid's going to try something after his arm heals up. Stay vigilant.

 

[major28]

Really? People just believe stories like this now?

Of course not, we know full well this is one of the least believeable stories of the day. I think we do anyway.

its not that we are gullable (i really hope i spelled that right)but if we just go around questioning every story well then these forums would kinda blow andeven if this is just a story then it is at least good for discussion

 

[Worgen]

are you in the wrong? no but really it only matters if the cops get involved and what they think

 

[Dok Zombie]

He was warned, he kept on acting a ****.

Then, like a spineless twat (and a true bully) he pulls a blade because his mouth is bigger than his balls.

You did the right thing man, sometimes you've just got to sort things out yourself, well played.

 

[spartan231490]

Really? People just believe stories like this now?

Hey guys, did you hear? I took out a guy twice the size of me with a single punch, the doctors say I nearly killed him. Was that wrong of me? T_T

Did you say "Tough break, kid" after you broke his arm too?! XD

I just dont find this story to be believable at all.

What this guy said he did, isnt that unbelievable. he dragged someone smaller than him into an alley and punched him in the face, at which point, the kid pulled a knife. Here's a little secret: a knife isnt that good of a weapon, unless you really know how to use it. When you dont, using one is more likely to get yourself hurt, than anyone else.

I dont recall getting this guys age OR height. And the knife thing... he said he lunged for him so he clearly didnt hurt himself, he had the knife out and lunged. They were in an alley where this chap had just punched the kid in the face... so he had to be in arms length... This guy dodged a lunge from a knife at arms length and then had his wits about him to also break the kids arm (bearing in mind this kid has a knife) straight after he dodges... come on.

not hard at all. the kid would have, most likely, been pushed back by the punch, and the kid didnt lunge right away, since the guy had time to warn him. And you would be surprised how easy it is to break someones arm when they lunge out at u like that, sometimes it would even be the same motion that blocked. Out of curiousity, have you ever been in a fight or had martial arts training? I have had the misfortune of being bullied physically, and ive been in a few fights because of it, and ive had a very small amount of martial arts trainging, and i know i could do what this guy said he could do, it really isnt that hard. Had the kid lunged the instant he pulled the knife, it would have been a different story, but he hesitated, thats what u get.

D-do you think he dragged him out into the alley... and then placed him in the middle of it? NO! When you drag someone out into an alley you throw them against the wall or push them against the wall. You dont position them in the middle.

And yes, I have been training in Muay Thai for a couple of months now... I made a thread about it. A lot of people talked about different martial arts... it was nice.

I dont believe someone who asks us to believe him without stating he had some kind of training, how much older they are than this person or how much bigger they are than this person.

If I told you that I (a 20 year old, 6'4 guy) could knock out a 10 year old girl you would believe me... but without the information you could justifiably assume I was also a 10 year old girl, then it gets tricky.

I can read between the lines. The guy said that it was a kid the same age as his friends younger brother, at taht age, guys start to put on muscle fast, so even one or two years is prolly at least 20lbs, also, he always refered to him as "kid" The average person wouldnt call a 9th grader a kid, every single time until they were at least 18, or if they were very much larger than him.
You said you've trained in muay thai, i just want to say, that is awesome, one of my favorite martial arts. That said, it still doesnt change the fact that a 15 or so year old kid, is prolly not going to use a knife in such a way that it is dangerous. a simple lunge is pretty similar to a punch when the guy winds all the way back first, telegraghed and overextended, makeing it childs-play to avoid, and then break the kids arm. You also didnt address the pause where conversation took place. It's unlikely that he would have stayed all that close, i know if i punched someone in the face for being a douche, I wouldn't stand there while they stood up so they could hit back.

 

[Kinguendo]

I can read between the lines. The guy said that it was a kid the same age as his friends younger brother, at taht age, guys start to put on muscle fast, so even one or two years is prolly at least 20lbs, also, he always refered to him as "kid" The average person wouldnt call a 9th grader a kid, every single time until they were at least 18, or if they were very much larger than him.
You said you've trained in muay thai, i just want to say, that is awesome, one of my favorite martial arts. That said, it still doesnt change the fact that a 15 or so year old kid, is prolly not going to use a knife in such a way that it is dangerous. a simple lunge is pretty similar to a punch when the guy winds all the way back first, telegraghed and overextended, makeing it childs-play to avoid, and then break the kids arm. You also didnt address the pause where conversation took place. It's unlikely that he would have stayed all that close, i know if i punched someone in the face for being a douche, I wouldn't stand there while they stood up so they could hit back.

Actually putting on weight is different for every person.

You are filling in the many blanks for him, I am simply saying this story doesnt have the detail to be credible.

 

[superbatranger]

Maybe you should have gone to someone and told them before telling this kid that you'd beat him up for being a bully. Kids like that don't care. They think they're better than everyone else and that apparently they have the right to bully those smaller and weaker than them. So telling him that probably didn't do anything to stop him. Which is most likely why the whole incident in the alley happened. He must have thought you were bluffing. But sometimes you have to take matters in your own hands. Just don't come out of this thinking you're invincible because you dodged a knife and broke his arm. We as humans are fragile. Even a stab to the arm could kill you.

 

[spartan231490]

I can read between the lines. The guy said that it was a kid the same age as his friends younger brother, at taht age, guys start to put on muscle fast, so even one or two years is prolly at least 20lbs, also, he always refered to him as "kid" The average person wouldnt call a 9th grader a kid, every single time until they were at least 18, or if they were very much larger than him.
You said you've trained in muay thai, i just want to say, that is awesome, one of my favorite martial arts. That said, it still doesnt change the fact that a 15 or so year old kid, is prolly not going to use a knife in such a way that it is dangerous. a simple lunge is pretty similar to a punch when the guy winds all the way back first, telegraghed and overextended, makeing it childs-play to avoid, and then break the kids arm. You also didnt address the pause where conversation took place. It's unlikely that he would have stayed all that close, i know if i punched someone in the face for being a douche, I wouldn't stand there while they stood up so they could hit back.

Actually putting on weight is different for every person.

You are filling in the many blanks for him, I am simply saying this story doesnt have the detail to be credible.

I get what ur saying, but im not doing as much as you think, im a psychology minor in college and my dad has a psych degree, doesnt sound like much but for as long as i can remember, i have been able to figure out things about what people are thinking and feeling that they dont even realize, just from what words they choose to use. Im not saying that the kid really did it, but i dont find it so unbelievable that im gonna call him on it. especially considering the fact that the escapist forum is as good as anonomous, so he doesnt really gain anything by making it up.

 

[Fulax]

If the bullying has been going on all year the teachers either know about it and failed to stop it or are too incompetent not to notice and thus probably too incompetent to stop it. You did the right thing.

How are the teachers going to stop it? These days, the punishment for bullying tops out at spending a few hours in what amounts to study hall, really intimidating. Not to mention the fact that the teachers can't do anything without seeing it, because then it's a he said/ she said situation.

Well if the teachers can't stop it, then he was definitely in the right.

 

[Free Thinker]

Bravo.
You knocked that little shit down a peg or two. You've warned him enough, and when you finally confront him, he pulls a knife. You are in the right. All evidence leans in your favor.
Once again. Bravo. You've done humanity a favor.

 

[Kinguendo]

I can read between the lines. The guy said that it was a kid the same age as his friends younger brother, at taht age, guys start to put on muscle fast, so even one or two years is prolly at least 20lbs, also, he always refered to him as "kid" The average person wouldnt call a 9th grader a kid, every single time until they were at least 18, or if they were very much larger than him.
You said you've trained in muay thai, i just want to say, that is awesome, one of my favorite martial arts. That said, it still doesnt change the fact that a 15 or so year old kid, is prolly not going to use a knife in such a way that it is dangerous. a simple lunge is pretty similar to a punch when the guy winds all the way back first, telegraghed and overextended, makeing it childs-play to avoid, and then break the kids arm. You also didnt address the pause where conversation took place. It's unlikely that he would have stayed all that close, i know if i punched someone in the face for being a douche, I wouldn't stand there while they stood up so they could hit back.

Actually putting on weight is different for every person.

You are filling in the many blanks for him, I am simply saying this story doesnt have the detail to be credible.

I get what ur saying, but im not doing as much as you think, im a psychology minor in college and my dad has a psych degree, doesnt sound like much but for as long as i can remember, i have been able to figure out things about what people are thinking and feeling that they dont even realize, just from what words they choose to use. Im not saying that the kid really did it, but i dont find it so unbelievable that im gonna call him on it. especially considering the fact that the escapist forum is as good as anonomous, so he doesnt really gain anything by making it up.

Yeah, shockingly you are the first person (that I know of) who studies psychology who has claimed to know what a person is thinking by words they write on the internet. You have no idea how many times this story was re-written, you are working on the assumption that this was first draft and a true story then filling in the blanks assuming he has average metabolism and is about average height with a mind set that wouldnt be clouded in a fight with a person who has a knife. THOSE are a hell of a lot of assumptions to make.

Oh and what would someone gain from lying on the internet? I dont know, I dont lie in real life as I dont see what someone would get from that... but people DO lie in real life and the internet is quite infamous for random fakery.

 

[spartan231490]

If the bullying has been going on all year the teachers either know about it and failed to stop it or are too incompetent not to notice and thus probably too incompetent to stop it. You did the right thing.

How are the teachers going to stop it? These days, the punishment for bullying tops out at spending a few hours in what amounts to study hall, really intimidating. Not to mention the fact that the teachers can't do anything without seeing it, because then it's a he said/ she said situation.

Well if the teachers can't stop it, then he was definitely in the right.

i agree, i was defending the teachers against the implication that they let it happen. I have yet to meet a teacher who didnt want to drop-kick bullies out the window, but their hands are usually tied.

 

[Kiriona]

Well, I think breaking his arm was a bit much, since you might get in trouble for that, but otherwise, bravo, my friend. If he's ninth grade, put the little fuck in his place. I have absolutely no sympathy for bullies, especially the little shits fresh out of middle school who think they're tough.

I doubt he'll be bothering anyone now, but there's always a chance that he's one of those thick skulled fucks who won't learn. Just be watchful for a while. He may try to retaliate.

 

[spartan231490]

I can read between the lines. The guy said that it was a kid the same age as his friends younger brother, at taht age, guys start to put on muscle fast, so even one or two years is prolly at least 20lbs, also, he always refered to him as "kid" The average person wouldnt call a 9th grader a kid, every single time until they were at least 18, or if they were very much larger than him.
You said you've trained in muay thai, i just want to say, that is awesome, one of my favorite martial arts. That said, it still doesnt change the fact that a 15 or so year old kid, is prolly not going to use a knife in such a way that it is dangerous. a simple lunge is pretty similar to a punch when the guy winds all the way back first, telegraghed and overextended, makeing it childs-play to avoid, and then break the kids arm. You also didnt address the pause where conversation took place. It's unlikely that he would have stayed all that close, i know if i punched someone in the face for being a douche, I wouldn't stand there while they stood up so they could hit back.

Actually putting on weight is different for every person.

You are filling in the many blanks for him, I am simply saying this story doesnt have the detail to be credible.

I get what ur saying, but im not doing as much as you think, im a psychology minor in college and my dad has a psych degree, doesnt sound like much but for as long as i can remember, i have been able to figure out things about what people are thinking and feeling that they dont even realize, just from what words they choose to use. Im not saying that the kid really did it, but i dont find it so unbelievable that im gonna call him on it. especially considering the fact that the escapist forum is as good as anonomous, so he doesnt really gain anything by making it up.

Yeah, shockingly you are the first person (that I know of) who studies psychology who has claimed to know what a person is thinking by words they write on the internet. You have no idea how many times this story was re-written, you are working on the assumption that this was first draft and a true story then filling in the blanks assuming he has average metabolism and is about average height with a mind set that wouldnt be clouded in a fight with a person who has a knife. THOSE are a hell of a lot of assumptions to make.

Oh and what would someone gain from lying on the internet? I dont know, I dont lie in real life as I dont see what someone would get from that... but people DO lie in real life and the internet is quite infamous for random fakery.

think what u want. I was trying to be civilized, and now ur just being an a$$hole.

 

[TheTim]

Doing it the old fashioned way. Nice.