Am I missing something, or is my school run by ignorant old people?

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Italian Stalion

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The stupid thing the school did was allowing it in the first place. As others have already said, you can fuck up someones eye with those things, and that's really damn serious. Since airsoft guns, or softair guns as they're called in Sweden, are so damn similar to real weapons, one could most likely bring in a real weapon under the disguise of being a real weapon at one point or another.

Lacrosse and football being more violent than airsoft? LOL. That's so hilarious.

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You have fucking air rifles. You can take out eyes with those. How can bringing them to school possibly seem like a good idea? There is just far too much room for some kid to flip and do permanent damage to someone, the school doesn't want to be liable for that, and they are doing the right thing by banning it.
No the School is being an idiot. They obviously approved it before but since that whole shooting incident now its OH NOES. GUNS BAD. FLEE FLEE SCURRY AWAY.
They made a decision that they later realized was a stupid one. IDIOTS. WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK EXACTLY EVERYTHING THROUGH. EVEN THOUGH THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE DIFFERENT PRINCIPAL BACK THEN. I LIKE TO WRITE SHIT IN CAPS BECAUSE IT PROVES MY POINT BETTER.
 

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I completely agree with you, SimuLord. Stuff is WAY to suger coated now adays and in my experience, most parents who complain about stuff like this are the same that turn around and let there "Ray of Sunshine" go do Yager-Bombs after school with the "Cool Kids".
Then again, My school was in a suburban ghetto.
 

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The stupid thing the school did was allowing it in the first place. As others have already said, you can fuck up someones eye with those things, and that's really damn serious. Since airsoft guns, or softair guns as they're called in Sweden, are so damn similar to real weapons, one could most likely bring in a real weapon under the disguise of being a real weapon at one point or another.

Lacrosse and football being more violent than airsoft? LOL. That's so hilarious.

Mercsenary said:
Sark said:
You have fucking air rifles. You can take out eyes with those. How can bringing them to school possibly seem like a good idea? There is just far too much room for some kid to flip and do permanent damage to someone, the school doesn't want to be liable for that, and they are doing the right thing by banning it.
No the School is being an idiot. They obviously approved it before but since that whole shooting incident now its OH NOES. GUNS BAD. FLEE FLEE SCURRY AWAY.
They made a decision that they later realized was a stupid one. IDIOTS. WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK EXACTLY EVERYTHING THROUGH. EVEN THOUGH THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE DIFFERENT PRINCIPAL BACK THEN. I LIKE TO WRITE SHIT IN CAPS BECAUSE IT PROVES MY POINT BETTER.
I respectfully disagree on several points.

I respectfully agree on your sarcastically applied point concerning caps.
 

Italian Stalion

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SimuLord said:
Is it my imagination or has the rash of school shootings correlated to bubble-wrap children and gotten worse and worse as the Helen Lovejoys have gotten shriller and shriller in their "won't someone please THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!" bitching?

I'm old enough to remember when kids resolving their differences with fisticuffs was standard operating procedure (got in more than a few scraps myself back then and learned how to fight the hard way---by getting the shit kicked out of me the first couple times). I also seem to remember that after a good slugfest and someone's mom or dad (because back then parents stayed married---shock!) saying "boys will be boys", we were all cool the next day.

I think these school shootings are what happens when you force pent-up aggression to get bottled up for too long. It's not natural, so kids snap and rat-a-tat-tat FUCK YOU HELEN LOVEJOY.

Correlation may not equal causation, but correlation sure does have a talent for saying "umm, OK, causation's right over there, I'm just gonna look this way while you go find it *whistle*" sometimes.
I agree. I think bullying should be nipped in the bud as soon as possible, but honestly, if you put 500+ hormone pumped teenagers in a rule based environment, of course there's going to be tension. Best that it's released through a few fights than it building up over the years and turning someone into the next Dylan Klebold.

This is from experience. When I was in first year of secondary school, I was the youngest guy there, and I had a really high voice. I know now that it must have annoyed the hell out of everyone else. From my previous school I knew that if you get into a fight with someone over something, most of the time that issue becomes a non-issue very quickly, and you can even become friends.
But no, in this school, because all the parents were ridiculously paranoid about their little babies, the tension just grew and grew, until one day where literally the entire senior year grabbed me in the locker room and kicked me in the head until I bled. I ended up with a bad concussion, and it also turned me into a bitter little fucker, who spent the next 4 years meticulously planning revenge fantasies. At the peak of it, I had a crate full of homemade plastic explosives and a loaded rifle with which to do my bidding, and I ended up stabbing a guy who was bullying me in the ribs and almost going to prison or mental hospital. And if we'd got our tension out early, that never would have happened!

Plus, children should be allowed to play outdoors more. It builds their immune systems!
/rant

OP: It's most likely related to school shootings, as most have said. Personally, I think it's a stupid way to deal with it. Bullying and bad teaching causes school shootings, not fucking airsoft. Get rid of the problem at the source, and you don't have to bother with all your fancy metal detectors. Not saying that airsoft guns aren't dangerous, they are, but they're not the main problem. Nobody looks at an airsoft gun and suddenly thinks "Wow, I'd just love to open fire on my peers right now". It's far more complicated than that.
 

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Italian Stalion said:
Mimssy said:
Could be a response to the UT shooting.
could be a reason, after some idiot went to a nearby highschool with pipe bombs and a chainsaw to try to kill some people (he got his ass handed to him by a teacher) my school now requires us all to wear I.Ds around our necks at all times, and if we don't we get detentions :(
What the fuck? How is it going to help the victims of a school shooting that their already known assailant was wearing an I.D. around his neck when he killed them? That makes absolutely no sense.
 

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Don't worry, you're not being stupid, my entire country thinks that same way about Airsoft as your school.

I live in Australia and it's a real pain in the arse not being able to play anything like airsoft, or even own an airsoft gun here.
Strangely enough, we can play paintball to our hearts content and that is way more dangerous than little plastic pellets flying at you that can't even break the skin.

Seriously, I saw my mate get hit right in the balls with one when we were at a mate's b-day party and he fell to his knees, pulled up his mask and projectile vomited over a metre. His bad for not wearing a cup.
I got a few good welts too tho, which is what you want from your first game of paintball. XD
 

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In the U.K they do things like this too. Because of morality and the fear of treading on Parents rights. Blame the parents and the government. It was them that led to the greater number of faith based academies opening and managers instead of head teachers.

But look on this the books in the English curriculum

Macbeth- Regicide,ghosts,murder,witches and scenes of blood and strong horror

Romeo and Juliet- Teenage sex,teen suicide,gang warfare.

Of Mice and Men- gun play,murder,an unsympathetic portrayal of those with learning difficulties.

In history:

The first world war, the single bloodiest conflict in modern history where children the same age as the fifth year were being torn apart by machine gun fire and crucified on barbed wire.

So yeah double standards are rife everywhere.

It could of course just be that they can't spare the staff and Air-softing is a minority sport compared to all the others. There is a recession on you know!
 

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Italian Stalion said:
Mimssy said:
Could be a response to the UT shooting.
could be a reason, after some idiot went to a nearby highschool with pipe bombs and a chainsaw to try to kill some people (he got his ass handed to him by a teacher) my school now requires us all to wear I.Ds around our necks at all times, and if we don't we get detentions :(
ID's!!!!!

fuck seriousley......what a bullcrap thing

i would just not where it, or where it under my shirt or somthing
 

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My high school was locked down a few years back when a student brought a BRIGHT YELLOW NERF GUN to school. A teacher MISTOOK THE TOY FOR A REAL FIREARM and phoned security, who called the cops and locked the school down. So yeah, schools don't want us holding anything that even LOOKS like it could launch so much as a spitball. This is tthe same school that called my girlfriend a liar for saying she witnessed a drug deal in progress and badgered her to leave instead of kicking out the dealer. WTF.

You hear about the elementary school kid that got expelled for bringing a LEGO minifigure cop holding a centimeter-long LEGO pistol? He never got an apology even after his parents sued, and never got the toy back. They did let him back into the school though. Not that I'd go back to mine if they pulled that, I'd transfer to a different school. Wait, I did. Screw public.
 

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MattRooney06 said:
Italian Stalion said:
Mimssy said:
Could be a response to the UT shooting.
could be a reason, after some idiot went to a nearby highschool with pipe bombs and a chainsaw to try to kill some people (he got his ass handed to him by a teacher) my school now requires us all to wear I.Ds around our necks at all times, and if we don't we get detentions :(
ID's!!!!!

fuck seriousley......what a bullcrap thing

i would just not where it, or where it under my shirt or somthing
Wear do you go two school? Watt state eye mean? It wood suck knot being able two go anywear on campus without whereing a nametag. Eye wood transfer out write aweigh!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Admit it, it's funny.

Seriously, that's like a permanent lockdown!
 

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Nieroshai said:
MattRooney06 said:
Italian Stalion said:
Mimssy said:
Could be a response to the UT shooting.
could be a reason, after some idiot went to a nearby highschool with pipe bombs and a chainsaw to try to kill some people (he got his ass handed to him by a teacher) my school now requires us all to wear I.Ds around our necks at all times, and if we don't we get detentions :(
ID's!!!!!

fuck seriousley......what a bullcrap thing

i would just not where it, or where it under my shirt or somthing
Wear do you go two school? Watt state eye mean? It wood suck knot being able two go anywear on campus without whereing a nametag. Eye wood transfer out write aweigh!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Admit it, it's funny.

Seriously, that's like a permanent lockdown!
If thats you making fun of my spelling then let me tell you, you just broke my poor heart :(

What are the ID's for, do you have to like scan in or just carry them around?
 

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Welcome to the world of Political Correctness. Pretty soon those other sports will be banned because someone might get hurt or get their feelings hurt... yeah I know thats an extreme position but then would you have thought games like freeze tag would be banned from recess 10-15 years ago? They are being banned in a lot of schools now because being "it" makes kids feel bad.
Gah...
 

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SimuLord said:
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I'm with 'em on it, I've got to be honest.
I wouldn't particularly want any kind of weapon lying around somewhere I'm bound by law to attend. Yes, hundreds of people can use guns safely, but you only need one to go around trying to shoot everything that moves.

But I'm someone who goes to school, learns stuff, comes home. I couldn't care less if clubs in general were banned, no matter what the activity is.
Chess can get pretty nasty, y'know.
You're against A/V club and glee club and even the chess team?
I'm not against them, I just don't care about them. Wouldn't campaign to get rid of them, but wouldn't try to save them either.
 

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Italian Stalion said:
Well today my high school airsoft club was shut down due to "guns being violent" and "the dangerous nature of the game". I honestly cant think of any justification for this decision, games like football and lacrosse (of which my high school enthusiastically supports) are much more violent and dangerous then airsoft. Am I missing something or is my high school just really stupid?
I find this exceptionally ironic given that my old high school is the place where I learned to fire a gun in the first place. And I realise that without context that sounds really bad. And I'm from the UK, too.

To elaborate, I was in the CCF, kind of like an Army Cadets thing (although I was in the RAF section). And because of that I had training in firing a military-issue cadet-training rifle, and was only allowed to use guns under supervision and in safe locations, like the actual range we had on the school site.

Anyway, I agree with what plenty of others have said. The school don't want to get sued, so of course they'll ban anything that could possibly result in a lawsuit landing on their doorstep.
 

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I'm sorry but while I don't fully agree with banning a club for a reason like that, I really don't think you can argue a point that airsoft is less violent that football or lacrosse. Sure they have more physical contact but no where in the general spirit of the game is one player supposed to have the intention of hurting another player, it's a game of I throw ball, pass player to player until 1 side scores. Granted you don't play airsoft with the intention of harming another player there is still the fact that you're wielding a "weapon" (albeit a fake weapon, it is still more weaponesque than anything in either lacrosse or football).
Also harm is really a relative thing, in almost every sport there is a degree of harm, hell I can argue that cheer-leading can cause more harm to a person than football.
Without knowing the details I'm going to assume the school is fairly afraid of the various libailites of a bunch of teens running around with airsoft guns on school grounds. I doubt the school has a proper place for airsofting where no passerby is going to get shot. Then they have to worry about some passerby reporting that kids are at a school wielding guns. Sorry, but Airsoft really isn't a school grounds activity, that is something you have to get in off grounds. Trust me I understand, I wanted to form a paintball club way back when I was in highschool and they flat out told me no way. I was able to just form unofficial club where I could post fliers or just spread that word that a bunch of people were meeting at X airfield on day Y for a day of paintballing.
its not like we were actually going to have the games on school grounds, we just wanted a place to setup games and talk about it.