Am I the only one looking forward to New Vegas?

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Snowalker

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The title is sarcastic, so please no comments that just say, "no."

Secondly, if I offend anyone during this brief discussion, I apologize, was not intended and was probably only brought up to make a point.

Moving on, The last few weeks here at the escapist, I noticed something very odd. A sudden hate for what was a very beloved game, Fallout 3. Now, yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, thats not the issue at hand, the issue I've noticed is a lot of nah-sayers for New Vegas for what seems to be very silly reasons.

1st reason: The game looks just like Fallout 3 with only upgraded weapons and enemies. Well, you might be right judging from the available screen shots, but any other information about the games seems to disagree.( Another side point, this point was brought up by another loved game here on the escapist, Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2. I remember that quiet frequently people said this wasn't going to be the case, regardless of information.) Well, for one, the information gathered has indicated a nearly complete overhaul of the skill point system. Course it may not change that much, but from what I've read, they're making it much harder to max a skill out. They're purposely adding useless skill sets, and adding new skills that will affect the game in new ways. Adding a different companion mechanic. So, they won't be as annoying as Fallout 3. And Again, this is not in D.C., so its going to have a different story and new places to explore, and honestly, thats what Bethesda RPGs are usually about. (Yes, I know Obsidian is making this game.)

2nd Reason: Fallout 3 wasn't a true RPG, so theres no way in hell New Vegas can be. Well, you might be right on the money there, but because since Fallout 3 made so much money, why fix what ain't broken? Its not like the company is trying to sell it like is the purist RPG ever, they've said is and RPG with FPS elements, and thats what it is. A side point, why worry about how pure a game is if its fun? I mean, aren't games supposed to be fun?

3rd Reason: Fallout 3 wasn't true to the original Fallouts(Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout: Tactics), so how can New Vegas be true to it aswell? Well, personally, I feel that the main reason most people think Fallout 3 was true to the originals is because it was set in D.C., which should obviously feel different than California. Another reason is that is because it is in First Person, not overhead and that is real-time not turn-based. Well, I can understand enjoying turn-based gaming, but just because a game switch styles does not mean it becomes unfaithful. Just means its different from the old, which can sometimes be a good thing. As for why New Vegas can be faithful is simple, it is in Nevada, which means that it will have that West Coast feel. It'll have things that will have only been on the west coast, and reflect the old games more easily because they won't have to try to shoe-horn certain iconic factions into the game, because it would just make since for them to be there to begin with. (Also, BoS really shouldn't have been in Fallout 3, but thats a moot point.)

So, theres my there counter points to the most common criticisms. All I'm saying is this, if you don't like a game, thats fine, but if you're going to say a game is bad, at least make sense when you criticize it.
 

Jedoro

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I enjoyed Fallout 3, and this one has an M4-esque weapon in it.

Frankly, I'm sold.
 

Hiphophippo

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People will always *****. I'm deep in the "fallout 3 is inferior to the first 2 games" camp but 3 is still a pretty good game. I'm sure I'll enjoy this one too.
 

The Austin

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Well, I didn't like Fallout 3, and the game looks EXACTLY like Fallout 3, so I'm not excited, but I know that lots of other people are.
 

Kpt._Rob

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I loved Fallout 3, and I'll say that I'm hopeful for New Vegas. That said, every time I see videos for New Vegas, there's something I can't put my finger on... but it just feels off. I don't know what it is, and I hope it's an amazing game, but I still just can't shake that naggling feeling that something's not right.
 

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I can't wait for new vegas personally - but then, I'm younger, so I discovered Fallout 3 before 1 and 2 and enjoyed it thoroughly (although maybe they could incorporate some of the fantastic story and choices into new vegas from the old games....)
 

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Did you say that they were purposely adding useless skill sets? Could you please tell me what the logic behind that could be?

Also, I'm looking forward to this if only for hardcore mode.
 

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internetzealot1 said:
Did you say that they were purposely adding useless skill sets? Could you please tell me what the logic behind that could be?

Also, I'm looking forward to this if only for hardcore mode.
The original Fallouts had them. I say useless, they have a use. The most notable is Gambling. Its not useful because even though it might help a little, its still a game of chance. The others, well, I'm not sure, but gambling has been confirmed as a skill.
 

Timbydude

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It just looks like Fallout 3 again. I'm sure it will be fun, but not awesome. When the novelty of the original wears off, the sequel appears to be less enjoyable, even if it's the same quality.

This was sort of what happened for me with Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2. Technically, SMG2 was a better game, but the novelty of SMG1 was what made it a better experience.
 

SimuLord

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Fallout 3 was a top-ten all-time game. New Vegas looks to be more of the same. Where's the problem?
 

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AjimboB said:
Seeing as how I've never played any Obsidian's games, I didn't bring up the issue of whether or not they made the first games, so thanks for shedding some light on this issue. While your concern seems well placed, I have one counter point. Its pretty obvious that Bethesda has had a major hand in the making of this game. So, lets assume that if Obsidian made the game the way you described, would it not be hard to believe, Bethesda just might step in and help fix these problems? I'm not saying Bethesda's games don't have bugs, I'd be lying out my ass. But one would like to believe that they could spot the bugs of another developer and help fix those, even if just a hare. On top of that, its using the same engine as Fallout 3, and we've all seen the mods for it, so assuming the game is built in a similar way as the mods are built, it would seem easy for a full team of developers to make a game will minimal bugs(yes, I consider Fallout 3 minimal.) But most of this is opinion based, rather than fact, so we'll see.
 

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If there is as much to explore in Fallout New Vegas as in Fallout 3 I will definatly buy it for that reason alone. The new weapons, setting, story and faction system is just bonus.
 

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igissx said:
I still love the originals..so i will put this on the table...

New Vegas isnt really an "improvement" to Fallout 3, and going from a wasteland to a wasteland, with populated areas isnt really....Fallout in term (the word Fallout, not the game)..Yeah in the second Fallout there was a vegas like place, but that was one place, according to Game Informer...a huge part of the game is Vegas like places...now that is a true turn-off...and another problem is that Fallout 3+ New Vegas plays the "survival" card, yet its laughable, because you get so much ammo and health kits, taht your a living terminator...
Right, but what happens when you become so weighted down by health packs and ammo, you can't make it to the pond across the map in time to keep from dying? I think the Survival Card in New Vegas isn't as laughable as you presume.
 

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I'll be buying it, but mainly because shooting stuff outside of V.A.T.S. has gotten a major overhaul according to gameinformer. Iron sights, more fluid movement, basically the shooting is now FUN.