Am i the only one ?

[Metalchair]

well i didn actually play it (so yell at me all u want for criticizing it) but i watched my friend play a few different rooms and it looked slow, boring (which im pretty sure r the same thing) and laggy. in all the rooms EVERYONE had a bad connection

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

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it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace

There's your problem.

Yeah. PC version is updated. Nearly daily. However, I've found the scout update to...change the game a lot. I don't like that.

Play Pyro.
Scouts burn so marvelously...

 

[TheBXRabbit]

I got the orange box on 360, and tried TF2, but could never really get into it. My biggest problem was how diverse the classes are (I know that sounds weird).

I like being a jack of all trades in multiplayer. At one point I'll be sneaking around, then grab a Heavy weapon and start mowing down, then find some cover and either camp or snipe, then grab a vehicle and ram foes with impunity, then maybe take gunner and let someone else drive. I like being able to change what type of gameplay I'm focusing on on the fly rather than specializing in any one key facet.

And while you can change what class you use at will, the change is so jarring (you die and restart basically) and there are so many differences it feels like I'm playing an entirely different game. And I guess you could say that TF2 has nine games in one, but they all feel like they're missing something which the others may have, but can't be added together.

 

[Bakery]

when things are too balanced it means that there's no point having classes since nothing is higher nor lower in effective ness

look at Killzone 2 everything is OVER POWERED but this add's so much to the fun because every class and badge has a job

while in TF2 it didn't matter who you pick because your always gonna play the same
plus it makes the game less fun when things are balanced

when i played as Pyro i found out that i could be playing as scout and it won't make a differeance because they were SO Balanced that you might as well call them clones

if i choose a different class i expect it to change my style of play

not just change how i look

Out of all of the classes, the scout and the pyro are the most similar, but try telling me playing as a heavy is the same as playing as a spy.

If, as you say, everything is overpowered in Killzone, then it's really balanced too! If EVERYTHING is overpowered, then NOTHING is!

My guess is that you played for less than an hour. Try it again for a bit longer, then come back and say that your class choice doesn't make a difference. Also, play the PC version =).

 

[Zersy]

I have heard loads of people praise Team Fortress 2

but when i played it i found boring

the maps in my opinon were not good

the classes were over balanced

and all fun seems to be illusion

but thats my view

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

so what did you think of TF 2 and why ?

Personally i first played the Xbox 360 version. I thought it was HORRIBLE.
but then steam had a free TF2 weekend on pc so i tried it out.
IT KICK ASS of serious proportions.
why? maybe because i feel that on the consoles it is SLOW. its a pc game. Personally i think it should have stayed that way. on the pc its seems to be faster in pace and easier to control and whatnot.

Dam PC owners still get treated with treats !!!

 

[Abedeus]

Team Fortress 2 is pretty bad, everything is TOO balanced. my only regret in that game is not having TF 1 anymore.....

How is too much balance a bad thing?!

It's like complaining that your pizza is just the right size, your tea just sweet enough, coffee is not weak and not strong - just right.

Every game wants to be balanced and TF2 achieved it. Or maybe you just enjoy exploiting overpowered weapons/skills?

its called tactics. you put down a sentry, ANY class can destroy it, ANY class can kill a heavy, the list is endless. in the first one every class had a class that could deal with it, in 2 you just choose what you want to look like when you run out of 2fort, since thats the only map people seem to play on the 360

This is a good thing. Meaning no class is gimped. Because rock-paper-scissors is the worst kind of "balance" that never works.

then why not make only one class that can set up turrents, turn invisable, shoot grenades, run fast, double jump, and give him a sniper rifle/Minigun/Flamethrower/Shotgun/and a bat. and while we are on the subject, lets make it so that he can heal everyone else also.

when i see a game that has player classes, they should have their own weaknesses that require people playing other classes to support you. As far as i am concerned this is basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6fq9Aadwk

They can't make it, because then everyone would be the same. EVERY class has it's weaknesses and strengths. Maybe you are just blind and don't see them. I'll name you few. Just the weaknesses, because strengths would cross to the territory of tactics.

Spoiler

Heavy - Slow, big, easy to hit. Sniper can just headshot him twice (it's really easy - his head is bigger and he can't move or jump fast) and he's dead. Spies have easy time backstabbing them, because... their textures are bigger. Also, you can't have healing and a close-range backup weapon at the same time. Also, you run out of ammo almost as fast as Pyro and your shotgun is weak.

Scout - Easy to kill by a Sniper (one charged shot in any place will kill a non-overhealed Scout), Heavies have easy time killing him. Basically, he's the lowest health of all the Offensive characters. Usually, one sticky nade will make short work of him. Also, Pyros like to attack them, as they are just as weak on medium and long distance as the Scouts are. Oh, and Medics like to attack them thanks to the achievements.

Demoman - Very hard to kill anything that is faster than you and tries to keep close distance. Spies and Scouts kill them easily, so do Snipers, as Demoman has absolutely NO long-range attacks. On close-range you have only a bottle, which is poor against any firearm and stickies can backfire. Also, the hardest IMO class to master.

Pyro - Useless at long range or anywhere near water. Not that much health, burns a lot of ammo and does it pretty fast. His secondary ability (compression blast) burns away 25 ammo. And while he can burn many targets at one time, Sentries and engineer buildings don't catch on fire. He's also weaker against other Pyroes, they don't burn and require constant flame to kill.

Soldier - Great vertical movement is balanced by slow horizontal movement. Can be killed by his own rocket. Projectiles move slowly and can be repelled. Reload takes quite the time, a bit longer than Demoman's. Also, rockets don't have that much of a spread, so you can't destroy or kill many people if they hide behind a wall.

Engineer - Requires a lot of field analysis to set a Sentry in a place where it not only won't be destroyed, but can be upgraded. Dispenser must be also built and upgraded, but it can become a problem because everything requires Metal. Teleports need to be maintained, upgraded and placed where people can't sap/destroy them too easily. Without his buildings, he's only a weak Scout without the speed and double-jump.

Medic - Weak damage, low health. Can't heal himself as well as others. Requires constant movement if healing someone, easy to loose the link if your healee is moving behind a wall. Top priority target. Can uber, but ubers can be stunned by Scouts and blown away by Pyroes.

Sniper - Poor damage in medium and close combat, top priority by Spies (as they can cause some serious damage). Requires a LOT of aim and knowledge where to hide and in Sniper duels, constant movement. Second hardest to master class. A lot of maps don't have a good sniping point for one of the sides (2Forts for the attacking).

Spy - Low health, next only to the Scout, low handgun damage and ammo cap (you can't afford to miss with it). Third hardest to master class, requires a lot of skill and thinking. Sidestab has been fixed, so now you MUST be behind an enemy. Can't backstab while invisible and 2-3 seconds after that. Sappers reveal your position (because people always turn around when they hear "SPY IS SAPPING MY SENTRY!") and can be destroyed faster than they can destroy. Top priority for Pyroes. If burned, everyone can recognize it's a Spy - even if invisible or disguised, flame's color reveals that you're an enemy.

I think that's all.

 

[Ago Iterum]

Someone explain to me how 'fun' can be an illusion?

The idea that people are having fun can be an illusion. I don't know how to put it any simpler than that.

Why did you come on to the thread, pick at one sentence, and not contribute? There's a better question.

I am contributing. I'm pointing out a particular sentence that doesn't make any sense to me, in an effort to get some clarification. See? If he means what you just said "The idea that people are having fun can be an illusion", then this makes a lot more sense. You and me just worked together to better this thread. Aren't you proud? I sure am.

I love you.

 

[Sparrowsabre7]

I didn't like it much either but I liked the character vids etc, just not the game itself lol

 

[McClaud]

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

There's your problem...TF2 is a game for the PC, not shoddy ports.

TF2 is a game for people that love FPS' and that care deeply about the games mechanics and execution. TF2 is a game that opts to make the game mechanics as elegant as possible, with incredibly balanced classes, weapons and maps, and while adding different facets and abilities to each class without causing a power imbalance. It creates a versatile game that allows for a huge number of playing styles, that are radically different and fun but not unbalanced.

TF2 is for the FPS fanatic who can pick-up on the small details of a game within the first few hours of playing, and to people like this, a game like TF2 with very little or no flaws, and a solid mechanic, causes the game to become very enjoyable because its not plagued with the many blights of other games in that genera.

Exactly captured what I was thinking.

I tried TF2 on the XBox and PS3 to start because that's where my friends were playing it and was dissatisfied.

Then I actually bought the PC version and I enjoy it a lot. And I made new friends to play with.

 

[Spleeni]

OMFG Snipped

You know what? That's way too neutral. You need to pick one of them there sides.

i have a brother who really enjoys the game in fact its probably his favorite game right now. it helps if you just get all good at one class and then only use that class and overpowered classes

Whoa, what? Could someone please explain to me exactly which TF2 classes are overpowered? I seem to have missed that particular seminar.

I don't like to jump on bandwagons; especially ones that declare other people as gods, or something along those lines. But I'll have to mildly agree that TF2 is the most balanced shooter, with a large amount of thought of what goes into a game. I agree with alot of their decisions, and honestly cannot think of a better way to have a fun shooter. You can always make a sniper match, or a insti-kill shotgun match in Rainbow 6, CoD 4/5, etc. But if you want something different, TF2 is there to sate your urges.

 

[barryween]

it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace

There's your problem.

possibly, although your complaints come from game elements and not gameplay (the PS3 ver. is loaded with bugs [so Ive heard]) so it is unlikeley that the PS3 or 360 or PC would really matter.

Player limits on the PC version are, what, twice as big as console versions allow?
As far as i know the console versions don't get half as many patches or bug fixes and haven't got any updates yet. The action can get hectic during PC version play, but they never really kick off on the console version. I blame the controls, but that's a fanboy-baiting for another time.

I wasnt stateing which one is better, im simpley stateing that what his problems are were problems with the game that cant really be changed by any of the consoles.

 

[The_Prophet]

I have heard loads of people praise Team Fortress 2

but when i played it i found boring

the maps in my opinon were not good

the classes were over balanced

and all fun seems to be illusion

but thats my view

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

so what did you think of TF 2 and why ?

This is very off topic but why the f*ck

do you

seperate sentences/lines

like this?

 

[KeyMaster45]

I suck, absolutly suck at TF2, but I enjoy playing it simply because when I see another a character on the opposing team its not some faceless disposable army thug of the year 3000, it all just seems more personal. Of course I have more fun on a game where I'm actually slightly good at it, but sometimes a person can have fun being turned into swiss cheese by a heavy that's got a 3 medics behind it.

 

[Zersy]

I have heard loads of people praise Team Fortress 2

but when i played it i found boring

the maps in my opinon were not good

the classes were over balanced

and all fun seems to be illusion

but thats my view

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

so what did you think of TF 2 and why ?

This is very off topic but why the f*ck

do you

seperate sentences/lines

like this?

It's a bad habit

 

[brainless906]

I have heard loads of people praise Team Fortress 2

but when i played it i found boring

the maps in my opinon were not good

the classes were over balanced

and all fun seems to be illusion

but thats my view

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

so what did you think of TF 2 and why ?

Personally i first played the Xbox 360 version. I thought it was HORRIBLE.
but then steam had a free TF2 weekend on pc so i tried it out.
IT KICK ASS of serious proportions.
why? maybe because i feel that on the consoles it is SLOW. its a pc game. Personally i think it should have stayed that way. on the pc its seems to be faster in pace and easier to control and whatnot.

Dam PC owners still get treated with treats !!!

really i think it goes both ways.
there are games that belong on the Consoles and games that belong on the PC's
and they should stay that way.

 

[PezNic]

Personally i think the original (TFC) was better, then again i am somewhat bias cause i loved that game way more than anything else in its time. Plus i hate that they removed grenades. Ive got the PC version (fps's and rts's on console? *shudders*)

 

[The Iron Ninja]

OMFG Snipped

You know what? That's way too neutral. You need to pick one of them there sides.

Why on earth would I want to pick a side?

The whole thing, at it's core, is nothing more than the following "argument."

Person A: I am of the opinion that Team Fortress 2 is not so hot.
Person B (That's all o' you fellas): I am of the opinon that Person A is wrong. Person A's opinion needs to be the same as mine, then we can all be conformist robots. I can't stand the thought of someone having a different opinon to me. It doesn't make any sense, everyone should know that I am right and then the world can be a better place.

Really now, so he didn't like TF2, who cares?
Well... You lot obviously.
And to the opening poster, in the same light, why? Why do we need to know that you don't like a game that so many others do have a fondness for? Did you honestly expect anything other than mass dissagreement on the part of it's fans?

This might be laying it on a bit heavy, but I strongly object to being quoted and having my words replaced in part with an acronym. Bloody Acronyms.
[sup]I know what you're planning now, you're thinking of quoting me and replacing my words with an acronym or two. Well I'm calling you out on it beforehand, so if it happens, I called it, and if it doesn't, I don't have my words turned into an acronym, so win win for me.[/sup]

 

[El Taco the Rogue]

I have heard loads of people praise Team Fortress 2

but when i played it i found boring

the maps in my opinon were not good

the classes were over balanced

and all fun seems to be illusion

but thats my view

(it was the PS3 version if it makes a differenace)

so what did you think of TF 2 and why ?

The problem is that you have the ps3 version. On the consoles, the max no. of players is 16, rather than 32, there aren't many maps, and there are no new weapon packs. Tf2 is maybe the best multiplayer game i have ever played, and is in my mind in the top ten fps's of all time. Also its hilarious. SO THERE.

 

[One Seven One]

OMFG Snipped

You know what? That's way too neutral. You need to pick one of them there sides.

Why on earth would I want to pick a side?

The whole thing, at it's core, is nothing more than the following "argument."

Person A: I am of the opinion that Team Fortress 2 is not so hot.
Person B (That's all o' you fellas): I am of the opinon that Person A is wrong. Person A's opinion needs to be the same as mine, then we can all be conformist robots. I can't stand the thought of someone having a different opinon to me. It doesn't make any sense, everyone should know that

(off topic) (just something i randomly found and wanted to use)

The word "insane" comes from the Latin 'in sano' meaning, 'You are a complete [censor] for having a different opinion to mine!


on topic

team fortress is a good game (in my opinion) but it does get stale after awhile since most of the game variants for the consoles are just team post grab games.

all the updates come out for the computer version (and i still don't know why) ther's not much else to say, it does get fun most of the time though since your usualy playing with the same people and never relize it, it also get's funny when someone goes in, changes there name to billy mayes and keep typing out "are you on the ball?" "get on the ball!"