Amazing Spider-Man Ends With Issue #700

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Deacon Cole

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This has got to be the worst idea I have ever heard. I say it'll take five years for them to figure out what a mistake this was and another three to eventual put the status quo back where it was. The black Peter Parker was a better idea, honestly. I'm not much for changing the race of established characters like that. It's seems more racist than only having white characters. But killing the character and replacing him, mentally, with a long-standing villain and then soldiering on with this character in a poorly-named series is just incredibly stupid.

But then, comics are pretty much dead, anyway. So I guess they can do what they want.
 

Callate

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So... Will the inevitable Parker resurrection take fifty issues? Or more like 20?
 

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JonB said:
The book's ending has opened up a flood of criticism from fans, but Slott remains optimistic. "How do you get more Peter Parker than that? Now the readers think he's a menace. That's exciting. On a meta-level, that is Spider-Man."
I love it when people throw around "metalevel" like it has whatever precise definition fell out of their ear that morning. (In this case: "Exactly the same but bigger." I think.) It neatly ignores two relevant points:

1) If characters hate the main character, they fight against him. Conflict is the root of all good narrative, and being seen as a menace is Spidey's bread and butter.
2) If readers hate the main character, they stop hanging around with him (read: spending money on seeing his adventures). Being seen as not worth reading means no more bread for the writers.

That "meta" enough for you?
 

ASan83

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What? Spider-Man's still going on? I thought it ended with Amazing #500.

(Shut up, let me have my delusions.)
 

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This is why I prefer Ultimate Spider Man and the Ultimate Universe in general. When character die, they stay dead. And nothing about this story-line tells me that Peter is staying dead or that Ock being a new Spider Man is going to be as interesting as Miles Morales.

I give them a year before they start preparing for Peter's return.
 

lokicdn

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It's like comic book writer's all watch the daily soaps and say to themselves "You know that really makes sense"
 

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I don't follow Spider-Man (or any comics, really). But I think this is an interesting idea.

Of course, being a comic, and since apparently Doc Ock has Peter's memories for whatever reason, there's more than enough material for Peter to somehow come back if this idea goes belly-up. Which, judging from this thread, it probably will.

[I never really understood why comic writers bother to kill off the heroes (Superman's "died" multiple times, hasn't he?). It probably made waves to first time, but after they come back to life... what's the point?]
 

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That sounds absolutely freaking terrible...has anybody got Mephisto on speed-dial? Anyone at all? Geeze...Well at least now when Spider-Man starts fighting other heroes it'll be alright since Spidey was once Doc Oc...
 

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Interesting, but everyone knows that the status quo will be restored at some point, and sooner rather then later.
 

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I doubt this'll even last long. If they were actually going to off Spidey for reelzies (by which I mean have stay dead for more than a few issues)I would hope they'd find a less bizarre and convoluted way to do it. Superheroes seem to have a way to 'get better' from death.


He'll be back before you can say 'retcon'.
 

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This will be ret conned because people are already complaining about it, and unlike the gaming market
Im looking at you Bioware
they listen to there fans and change there story based on that, and a doctor octopus as spider man world is a freaking no go for a lot of people.
 

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I don't read comics and this is why!

First. Today marks the end of spiderman, so spiderman can take his place... WHAT? Do the grandiose words really matter? Why can't it just be Peter Parker foiling the plot of another bad guy? Why does superior spiderman have to be different?

Secondly. The bad guy does a freaky Friday with Peter? Really? Then doc has a change of heart and is now the good guy? How fortunate! This is also why it looks hard to get into comics, all this crazy crap that happens.
 

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Minority here, but I like the sound of this. Frankly it's a new way to rediscover the character, as in have his experiences and memories witnessed by another, very different character. Maybe it's because I don't read Spiderman though.

On the subject of Marvel Now!, can someone please return the real Thunderbolts, or at least the Norman Osbourne era Thunderbolts. That was great reading.
 

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Aeshi said:
Come on, when was the last time a supposedly 'dead' Superhero (or Villain) actually stayed dead?
Well there's the first Dove, Elongated Man (so far), Earth 2 Superman (Unless you count the reboot), Ultimate Wolverine (in the most bullshit manner), Ultimate Spiderman, Ultimate Dazzler, Beast, Nightcrawler, Dr. Strange, The Blob, Angel, Cyclops, Peter Parker, Hank Pym, I think most of the people that died in Ultimatum haven't come back.
 

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Ronack said:
"This is our answer to the age old question as to how we're going to make something worse than One More Day" said Dan Slott, the writer on Amazing Spider-Man.
This is something I've never understood, what is wrong with One More Day? I know I hated the changes that it brought, but at the same time, I read the whole thing thinking "Wow, this is incredibly well-written." Like the rest of the Staczynski run I found the dialogue and pacing to be incredible and by the end I was genuinely sad for the characters. Couldn't we all just agree to hate Brand New Day more?

OT: The new Doc-Ock Spider-Man should be boycotted until Marvel tells the magical story of how at the last moment Peter Parker switched bodies back right before the death of Otto Octavius and spent the next few weeks in a "Surprisingly Octavius-like state of mind".