Actually nevermind, I forgot about her. Yeah, screw Sophia Lamb. She's the one villain I feel hatred for, and for the same reason.DSD12 said:Sophia Lamb from Bioshock 2 easily the most annoying antagonist in any video game ever she taunts you through out the WHOLE GAME and never SHUTS UP.
Well to be fair, the thread is "antagonists that you hated with a passion" and I was going for bad guys whose actions were so horrible that you wished to choke them to death with your bare hands. It's cool if you put in other things but I would imagine that's why most responses are for bad guys (besides the few joke responses at least).FarleShadow said:Ok, so alot of people hate the people they're supposed to hate in a game, aka the fucking villians. Duh people, duh.
I, for one, hate the main character from L.A. Noire, Phelps or something, yes, he's supposed to be the good guy, yes, he's a hero who saved us from the Japs and some other bullshit, but seriously, he's the Keanu Reeves of gaming characters who's gunfights, car chases and general CSI shit is boring boring boring. Also boring.
I can sum my experiences with Neo Phelps when he picked up a Knife covered in blood, to 'examine' it.
Since the game decided it was important, Phelps didn't helpfully TELL me this shit was boring, with his usual 'IT WOULD TAKE A GENIUS TO CONNECT THIS TO THE CASE!' repeated dialog, I decided to use my WASD keys (Helpfully repeated everytime I picked up an object, like I'd forgotten the other 50 times) to examine the object.
"THIS KNIFE IS COVERED IN BLOOD" said Phelps, as he found the one pixel that the game decided was the logical point to continue the game. At which point, I threw my keyboard aside.
Fuck L.A. Noire and fuck the reviewers who suggested it was worth more than a single, glorious, English Pound.
I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
He is the smartest man in the world. If anyone was entitled to make that decision, he was. Also, of course those people's lives were worth it! A few million people dying is far less important than the continued survival of humanity.Freaky Lou said:Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
Forgive my jumping in but isn't what he did essentially just "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" taken to an extreme?SL33TBL1ND said:He is the smartest man in the world. If anyone was entitled to make that decision, he was. Also, of course those people's lives were worth it! A few million people dying is far less important than the continued survival of humanity.Freaky Lou said:Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
That's every bit as much a moral decision as a tactical one, so intellect alone does not qualify one to make it.SL33TBL1ND said:He is the smartest man in the world. If anyone was entitled to make that decision, he was. Also, of course those people's lives were worth it! A few million people dying is far less important than the continued survival of humanity.Freaky Lou said:Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
Agree with the first one. Not to mention the Celestial Dragons, Akainu, and the officials in Marejoa. Blackbeard's pretty high up there too.Scarim Coral said:From the anime One Piece, I hate Spandam for ruining Franky family and what he did to Nico Robin during the CP9 arc.
There also Nena Trinity from Gundam 00. She ruining Louise life which she did it out of whim. After that I have no sympathy to what happen to her next and her brothers (I see it more as an eye for an eye during that event).
It was an extreme situation. When "the needs of the many" means all of humanity, I'd say what he did was fair.DarkSeraphim02 said:Forgive my jumping in but isn't what he did essentially just "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" taken to an extreme?SL33TBL1ND said:He is the smartest man in the world. If anyone was entitled to make that decision, he was. Also, of course those people's lives were worth it! A few million people dying is far less important than the continued survival of humanity.Freaky Lou said:Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
Fair enough, nice talking with you.Freaky Lou said:That's every bit as much a moral decision as a tactical one, so intellect alone does not qualify one to make it.SL33TBL1ND said:He is the smartest man in the world. If anyone was entitled to make that decision, he was. Also, of course those people's lives were worth it! A few million people dying is far less important than the continued survival of humanity.Freaky Lou said:Whether it worked or not is irrelevant because he took it upon himself to decide if those people's lives were worth it. That's not a decision he's entitled to make.SL33TBL1ND said:I think you might be missing the point there. What Ozy did actually worked. He killed millions to save the human race.Freaky Lou said:Comics: Ozymandias, from Watchmen. [Spoiler alert, noob.] Some people have a hard time hating him because he was trying to build a utopia, but---he took it upon himself to decide what was best for humanity, then killed millions for the purpose of furthering his own vision. No one has the right to be that sure of themselves.
On top of that, he sacrificed OTHER people's lives. None of them agreed to this, and it's taking a lot more from them than it was from Ozy. And it could be argued, from the ending, that his plan didn't even work, for all the bloodshed it wrought.
But anyway we could back and forth all night about this and all it ultimately proves is that Watchmen has some well-constructed moral dilemmas that people are going to be divided about. Personally I consider Ozy's actions reprehensible; you may think otherwise, and as I said this just demonstrates why he's such a good villain.