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Loop Stricken said:
To each their own, but...
I was okay with killing off Eddie and the kid (jesus it's been awhile since I've read them), I could stomach King writing himself into the story, I could put up with the deus ex machina (more than enough to make the ancient Greek plays blush) But rebooting the story? No, I'm not okay with a story I've invested around 5,000 pages into to just stop in mid senta

OT: Can I include comic books in this? Just thought of Adam Warren http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Warren#Recent_works
I've never seen an 'author' more passionately hate his own creations. Also the Walking Dead. It started off amazingly I'll happily admit but after having so many characters die I can't get emotionally invested in them any more. It got to the point where I'd just read it to see who died next, kinda killed it for me.
 

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Rylot said:
Loop Stricken said:
To each their own, but...
I was okay with killing off Eddie and the kid (jesus it's been awhile since I've read them), I could stomach King writing himself into the story, I could put up with the deus ex machina (more than enough to make the ancient Greek plays blush) But rebooting the story? No, I'm not okay with a story I've invested around 5,000 pages into to just stop in mid senta
But Ka is a wheel. You should've figured out what was gonna happen. :p
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Rylot said:
Loop Stricken said:
To each their own, but...
I was okay with killing off Eddie and the kid (jesus it's been awhile since I've read them), I could stomach King writing himself into the story, I could put up with the deus ex machina (more than enough to make the ancient Greek plays blush) But rebooting the story? No, I'm not okay with a story I've invested around 5,000 pages into to just stop in mid senta
But Ka is a wheel. You should've figured out what was gonna happen. :p
I had a friend semi spoil it for me; didn't tell me exactly what happened, just that it annoyed him. It still pissed me off.
 

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Shockolate said:
Gaunt's Ghost's.

I will never forgive Dan Abnett for killing off Corbec.

Sure, I'll read his books. But seriously, fuck you Dan, you Black Library god you.
Corbec was okay but...

Bragg

...was? At least Corbec had some foreshadowing involved. You KNEW what was going down. The spoilered character went out it what amounted to the most pathetic death I think I've ever read.

And besides, good ol' Dan's specifically stated that everyone's going to die sometime. Hell, I can tell you now whats going to happen at the end of the run.

Everyone dies except for Larkin, and the main body of unnamed troops. Their last mission finally secures them 'New Tanith.' The end.

Rylot said:
Loop Stricken said:
Rylot said:
Loop Stricken said:
To each their own, but...
I was okay with killing off Eddie and the kid (jesus it's been awhile since I've read them), I could stomach King writing himself into the story, I could put up with the deus ex machina (more than enough to make the ancient Greek plays blush) But rebooting the story? No, I'm not okay with a story I've invested around 5,000 pages into to just stop in mid senta
But Ka is a wheel. You should've figured out what was gonna happen. :p
I had a friend semi spoil it for me; didn't tell me exactly what happened, just that it annoyed him. It still pissed me off.
Well, you can't say King didn't warn you. He spent an entire chapter trying to convince you to just put the book down and be done with it.

Besides, I think its kind of neat...

Roland's THOUSANDS of years of suffering sustains the tower, but we've viewed what is most likely one of the last cycles before the Crimson Kings plans finally fall apart.
 

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Drizzitdude said:
After the whole thing with douglas adams and the hitch-hikers guide I though I wouldn't recover.
Have you read the Dirk Gently series? It's actually better than the Hitchhikers series. Seriously. This is from a fan of the Hitchhikers series, too. Also, the best book he ever wrote is also the hardest to find. It's called Last Chance to See.
 

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Suzanne Collins with her Hunger Games trilogy.

Poor poor Cinnamon.

And the stuff Katniss and Peeta (and just about everyone else) go through is enough to make you turn grimdark.
 

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darth.pixie said:
...That's what happens in those books? I was thinking about starting to read the whole saga (I know the basic plots but not much else) but if that's the outcome, I'm starting to reconsider. I only liked Jarlaxle, Artemis and Kimmuriel anyway but I did want to know about the whole world....
I'll try to say this without spoiling too much. If those three are your favorite characters, then you should read the saga. The Neverwinter books don't hold the end for them(so far).

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Drizzitdude said:
I means eriously what is the point in attempting to continue the series?
I can think of at least one reason to continue the series. Barrabus the Gray.

EDIT: While the endings of of both The Ghost King and Gauntlgrym saddened me, I think they were a good choice. After all, Drizzt is an Elf, so he would of outlived all his friends eventually. Now he can start a new adventure with Dahlia. Plus, Jarlaxle is still alive, and he makes everything better.
 

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Shockolate said:
Gaunt's Ghost's.

I will never forgive Dan Abnett for killing off Corbec.

Sure, I'll read his books. But seriously, fuck you Dan, you Black Library god you.
Fucking Cuu, sure as sure.
 

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Richard Morgan.

Broken Angels was a betrayal of everything that made the first book great. It's not just "different," he might as well have renamed the returning character(s), because HE DOESN'T ACT REMOTELY like the same guy. He IS NOT the same guy.

It's a bigger tonal shift than following Anakin Skywalker from A New Hope to The Clone Wars.
 

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Drizzitdude said:
Catherine and Peter in "The Fountainhead"?
YES. Okay, not that I consider this a 'betrayal' of any sort, but goddamn that was some brutal character 'development'. I know Peter Keating is Rand's epitome of weakness, but as a fairly weak person myself I found his whole story to be truly heart wrenching. Sometimes I imagine that, some time after the events of The Fountainhead, he finally found happiness.

Catherine never did, though. She was Toohey's most complete victim. That scene where Toohey first sees Catherine... the second time I read the book, holy crap, in context of what I knew was coming after, possibly the most devastating moment in the book. Which is my favourite book ever, btw.
 

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Redlin5 said:
It wasn't inside the story itself, unless I missed something incredibly subltle but...



[sub]I take it as non-canon. Not that I'm a homophobe, its just that I never read him that way.[/sub]

Other than that one, no author has really given me too much of a gut punch yet.
Yeah I agree. I'm not homophobic either, but there's seriously no evidence in the books that say that Dumbledore is gay. (Well to be fair there isn't really any that supports him being straight either but whatever.)

But my point is, Rowling only did it because she wanted publicity, and she implying that Dumbledore didn't like Harry like a son (which is how I interpreted it) but he liked to hang around Harry because he's gay. Again, I'm not trying to be homophobic, but I remember her saying something along the lines of "That's why Dumbledore cares about Harry so much." I mean WTF?

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Yeah, that's exactly right captcha.
 

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As far as SOIAF goes, it's spelled out pretty clearly by several characters that when playing the game of thrones, only the cutthroat will survive, let alone triumph. Nice guys finish last and all that. Most people root for the more heroic archetypes and they just don't have the moral flexibility needed to survive in a world as brutal as the one GRRM has created.
 

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I'm fairly certain David Eddings was trolling all of his fans with The Dreamers.
The first three books in the series were bad enough, with crappy characterisation and dialogue, and with most of the actions taken by the characters rendered completely pointless by the end of each book, but the last book was by far the worst.
At the end
they kill the bad guy (a kind of bug-overmind thing) and one of the gods realises that everything that happened could have been avoided if the bug had been destroyed years ago. So he goes back in time, kills the bug, and everything that took place over the course of the four-book series is erased (except for the death of a god, but no one liked her anyway).
It was just... wow. It was such a terrible series, one that I forced myself to read only out of loyalty to the author, and I thought that it couldn't get any worse... but amazingly, it did.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
But my point is, Rowling only did it because she wanted publicity, and she implying that Dumbledore didn't like Harry like a son (which is how I interpreted it) but he liked to hang around Harry because he's gay. Again, I'm not trying to be homophobic, but I remember her saying something along the lines of "That's why Dumbledore cares about Harry so much." I mean WTF?
Wait... Dumbledore is a pedophile?
 

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I absolutely adore Stephen King, but I always found myself a bit baffled at the last two Dark Tower books. I still like them okay, don't get me wrong, but they just went in sort of a weird and unexpected direction.

I was also annoyed at how Randall Flagg, THE ARCHVILLAIN OF THE ENTIRE KING CANON, ended up.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
Yeah I agree. I'm not homophobic either, but there's seriously no evidence in the books that say that Dumbledore is gay. (Well to be fair there isn't really any that supports him being straight either but whatever.)

But my point is, Rowling only did it because she wanted publicity, and she implying that Dumbledore didn't like Harry like a son (which is how I interpreted it) but he liked to hang around Harry because he's gay. Again, I'm not trying to be homophobic, but I remember her saying something along the lines of "That's why Dumbledore cares about Harry so much." I mean WTF?
I sincerely doubt that she said that.

Gay =/= pedophile. For all your insistence that you're not homophobic, that's an awfully offensive mistake to make. If she did say that, which I don't think she did, I'm willing to bet that you took it completely out of context. She probably meant that it's the reason why he cares about him so much as a son, because he can't have any of his own.
 

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Drizzitdude said:
Pwent Dies.
Wait, Pwent dies later on? :'( He was one of my favorite characters in the entire series.
darth.pixie said:
Yeah, Jarlaxle was fairly awesome too.

OT: I'm going with Eoin Colfer with the Artemis Fowl series, he basically put Butler out of action by the third book.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Considering how I followed the Series of Unfortunate Events very closely... very, VERY closely (I figured out who Beatrice was around book nine), I couldn't help but think "That's it?" when The End rolled around. It was pretty unsatisfying. Other then that, I don't feel betrayed by authors much.
shit starting getting real towards the end..I was just like "Jesus! cant you make them be HAPPY!?"

the beatrice thing wne t compltley over my head, though I was pretty young at the time