An interesting question in regards to Piracy

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Ranylyn said:
DoPo said:
Ranylyn said:
Well fucking done. You were that guy now - the one that tries to lump software in the same boat as "physical goods". You know who else tries it? People who claim piracy is stealing. Now, could you all go away and stop using the faulty analogies? Thanks.
Property is property, regardless of form. Trying to argue that digital goods aren't property is like arguing that the sky is green. Especially since a European court, I forget which, recently declared that digital property is still property and those who purchase it are entitled to the same legal rights as physical property, including options for trade and resale.
Yes, property is property, but software is not physical. Comparing it to a table is like saying the sky is green. Last I heard, there were no tables I could simultaneously lend to 10 different people and still have it in my home. Nor do I recall having a table that wouldn't work the same in after I move to a new house, which is sort of what OP is experiencing.
 

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Ranylyn said:
DoPo said:
Ranylyn said:
Well fucking done. You were that guy now - the one that tries to lump software in the same boat as "physical goods". You know who else tries it? People who claim piracy is stealing. Now, could you all go away and stop using the faulty analogies? Thanks.
Property is property, regardless of form. Trying to argue that digital goods aren't property is like arguing that the sky is green. Especially since a European court, I forget which, recently declared that digital property is still property and those who purchase it are entitled to the same legal rights as physical property, including options for trade and resale.
And what if an European court would say that the sky is green? Would that make it green?

EVERY law is a social construct, thus they are all inherently more subjective than physically measurable data. Even in a matter where we agree that a law has rational basis, for example "property exists", it would be a false analogy to say that "Trying to argue that property doesn't exist is like arguing that the sky is green.". No, it's not. The sky would be blue even if we would all die, while property laws exist bcause we say so.

It's even more transparent when you do something much more recent and fluid: At least the basic property laws were acknowledged since the days of Hammurabi and Moses, but digital property is just being figured out right now.

Citing recent legal decisions in a topic about morality, is basically an appeal to legality fallacy.